Gibbs Won't Say Whether Obama's Health Care Tax Pledge Is Still Operative

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First Posted: 06-29-09 03:46 PM   |   Updated: 07-30-09 05:12 AM

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The White House refused to say on Monday whether the president would sign or veto legislation that included a tax hike on businesses that provide health care for their employees. And in the process of trying to skirt the question, things got a bit testy between spokesman Robert Gibbs and the press corps.

After starting the daily briefing with a question about the president's response to Michael Jackson's death, the questions for Gibbs quickly shifted to what is becoming one of the most hotly contested sub-debates in the health care reform process. Would the president consider a bill that eliminated the tax benefits for employer-sponsored health coverage? Obama had argued vehemently against such a proposal during the heat of the presidential campaign. But the administration's line on the matter lately, has been more vague, than absolute.

Is Obama prepared to hold true to that campaign pledge?

"I think in many ways what marks the difference between this health care effort and other health care efforts in the past, is exactly what the president described: The very large table of people sitting at it trying to solve a problem that we have been working on for forty years," replied Gibbs. "The good news is we are making significant progress and all those people are still sitting at the table. We haven't drawn a lot of fault lines. We understand that there is some flexibility on part of Congress to work through some of these policy issues."

Fine and good, but the point of the question was, is Obama prepared to walk away from his pledge not to increase taxes on people making under $250,000?

"Again, I think in some ways your question is hypothetical because there are any number of different bills, different proposals," said Gibbs. "I think the president has outlined what he believes is the very best way to pay for health care."

It's not a hypothetical, replied CNN's Ed Henry, who asked the initial question. "He made a pledge. Is that pledge still operative?"

"We are going to let the process work its way through," replied Gibbs.

Fox News' Major Garrett, was unwilling to let it go, asking for the reason for reversing one of the president's most conspicuous campaign promises.

"I appreciate the indulgence to get these hypothetical questions months before we are likely to do that," said Gibbs. "You have asked me if the president is going to sign the bill that is not at his desk.... We are letting congress work many of these issues through and we are making progress."

And the press corp persisted, asking why the White House doesn't simply tell Congress that the tax provision is a deal breaker?

"I think the president in his principles and in the $948 billion to finance health care reform has laid out pretty clearly what his financing mechanism will be..." was Gibbs' final say on the subject.

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The White House refused to say on Monday whether the president would sign or veto legislation that included a tax hike on businesses that provide health care for their employees. And in the process of...
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Aaaaand, you all fell for it. Watch the clip for yourselves. The WH Press Corp have been trying to get Gibbs to say "yes" or "no" for a long time. He always points back to how Obama wants HC paid for (ie, no tax increase) and the press refuse to accept that.

What they want is a headline. Plain and simple. It's not hard to imagine the headlines they can generate. "WH at Odds with Congress," "WH Health Care Reform on Life-support Over Disagreement?" That's what this all comes down to.

Read his response: "We are sitting back and watching this thing play out." They aren't saying they support that provision. Nor should they say so at this point. Let Congress do their job and Obama will have more input when the time is right.

It was really funny watching the Press Corp pat themselves on the back at the conclusion of the briefing.

@21:10 mark
http://www.c-span.org/Watch/Media/2009/06/30/HP/A/20326/White+House+Briefing+with+Press+Secretary+Robert+Gibbs.aspx

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 PM on 06/30/2009

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 06/30/2009

CofC is a shill for big business, they have no concern for working people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 06/30/2009

Who cares if it takes a tax increase? BFD. If it takes the cost of health care off our backs, it seems like a fair trade. The only presidents­/governors that ran on a no-tax pledge and kept it, bankrupted their governments. Think of Ahnold, for example. As it is, there are people that daily have to make the choice between having a place to live and health insurance, putting food on the table and health insurance. If that burden is replaced by a small tax increase, who loses? NOBODY.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 06/30/2009
- Tiggy I'm a Fan of Tiggy 24 fans permalink

I have an idea! Since we the tax payers bailed out Wall Street and Wall Street can afford to pay millions in bonuses, why not tax the He*l out of them and leave us alone. We are already financially hurting and really can't afford any higher taxes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 06/30/2009
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“Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase.”
- Barack Obama

It’s a laugh riot, isn’t it? Actually, they might be laughing more at Gibbs’s feeble way of ducking the question than The One’s looming broken promise, but in Gibbs’s defense, what’s he supposed to say? Obama pounded McCain for wanting to pay for health care by taxing benefits, rode into D.C. promising Change, and now he’s going to eat a crap sandwich by reversing himself because it turns out personal charisma doesn’t work on hard economic numbers. So Axelrod and company have to go out and face the firing squad and “explain” via stuttering half-answers why Barry O lied about this last year. It’s a political microcosm of Obama’s economic M.O.: They borrowed political capital by pledging “no new taxes” to win the election and now down the road the bill’s finally come due.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 06/30/2009
- Dystopic I'm a Fan of Dystopic 20 fans permalink
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I say tax the living crap out of anyone with an R next to their names, and double those taxes on anyone who voted for bush twice.

IF we pad off the national debt, there would be an $8 TRILLION tax cut over the next 10 years

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 06/30/2009
- Truthahn I'm a Fan of Truthahn 16 fans permalink

Cap and trade will also be a tax, and it will fall disproportionately on low earners.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 06/30/2009
- Beachchick I'm a Fan of Beachchick 311 fans permalink
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This is about ending subsidies for private insurance, not a tax increase. I hope the President ends the tax subsidies and provides a nonprofit public health insurance plan.

Obama was against ending the subsidies under McCain's plan because McCain wanted to provide a weak tax credit, the Republican solution for every economic issue, and force people to purchase insurance on the open market.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 06/30/2009
- axt113 I'm a Fan of axt113 2 fans permalink

I find it hilarious how everyone is freaking out, nothing has happened yet, no bill has reached his desk, or is even close to reaching it yet, Obama is taking an wait and see approach to the thing, which is smart, he doesn't want anything to attach to him until he has to.

Obama is playing a game of GO and you guys think its checkers

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 AM on 06/30/2009
- Truthahn I'm a Fan of Truthahn 16 fans permalink

People should freak out. Nobody can figure out how to pay for universal insurance without taxing benefits, and now Obama has given Congress the green light to do it. It's a blatant violation of a campaign promise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 06/30/2009
- sc300nc I'm a Fan of sc300nc 48 fans permalink

Hold on to your wallets folks. Cap and trade and health care will be taking a huge bite out of it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 AM on 06/30/2009
- MossyOak I'm a Fan of MossyOak 37 fans permalink
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Maybe you haven't noticed but our energy and health care costs are already taking a huge bite out of our wallets.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 AM on 06/30/2009
- -0013 I'm a Fan of -0013 10 fans permalink

Agreed. So the solution is to take measures to ensure that these costs rise even higher?

I get it now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 06/30/2009
- Dystopic I'm a Fan of Dystopic 20 fans permalink
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Cap and Trade will cost you about $10 a month in 2020.

People already PAY for health insurance. People who already PAY for health care insurance will PAY into the public pool instead of the insurance companies jets.

Medicare has an admin cost of about 3%, the most efficient private insurer has an admin cost of 35%.

You know nothin, aspire to know nothing, and wear a badge of ignorance with pride.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 06/30/2009
- argon66 I'm a Fan of argon66 5 fans permalink
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Where are you getting your figures for cap and trade?

Everything that requires energy to create or ship goods will be taxed:

Petroleum processing (i.e. gasoline, diesel, natural gas, propane)
Interstate trucking ( as diesel prices increase so does the products being shipped)
Manufacturing (the cost of manufacturing will raise prices of goods being purchased)
Utilities (electricity, gas, water) all prices will be increased

The people that are going to be hurt the most by this legislation are the poor. We will all bear the cost, but the State run media will not accurately report this sham to the American people.

The real question is this: How to we get India and China to regulate their carbon emmisions to have any real impact on climate change?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 06/30/2009
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Actually, Gibbs refused to answer hypotheticals because there is no legislation yet coming out of Congress.

This is a stupid article. It reports nothing. Argh . . . eventually the press will be replaced because they are so inane.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 AM on 06/30/2009
- Beachchick I'm a Fan of Beachchick 311 fans permalink
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I really wish this issue was framed properly. The only reason private health insurance still thrives is because of tax subsidies; many companies cannot afford to offer health benefits without them.

The question then becomes why continue to subsidize private health insurance so it can compete unfairly with a public nonprofit plan. Free marketeers can't have it both ways, either private insurance survives or falls on its own.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 AM on 06/30/2009
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TAX THE MIDDLE CLASS

This stinks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 AM on 06/30/2009
- Dystopic I'm a Fan of Dystopic 20 fans permalink
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You are already being taxed. I seriously doubt that you have sufficient health insurance coverage by your employer to have you taxes go up more than probably $5.

Once the public plan is instituted, you will pay less for your healthcare.

Employers use half-assed health care as a ruse, so they don't have to pay you as much per hour.

Get a clue already.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 06/30/2009

Did you know that most of the bills they are proposing exempt unions from the taxation. Now how is that fair.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 PM on 06/29/2009
- Dystopic I'm a Fan of Dystopic 20 fans permalink
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Nope. Wrong. False Information.

I bet your grandfather was in a union, or do you come from a long line of welfare queens?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 06/30/2009

nope and nope

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 06/30/2009
- TJCole I'm a Fan of TJCole 153 fans permalink
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They must be waiting for David Rockefeller to call...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 PM on 06/29/2009
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Oh so true!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 AM on 06/30/2009
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 604 fans permalink
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Paid Spokesman.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 PM on 06/29/2009
- TJCole I'm a Fan of TJCole 153 fans permalink
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LOL...

That's about it...

Like Billy May.....

God rest his soul...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 06/29/2009

Not so in canada with woman fertility ....and no horror stories which are very sad like we have..ever..hello treatment for fertility but still getting it...39 and 40 years to have children hello..not a horror story..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 06/29/2009

Yes shortage of MRI machines and shortage of Drs-but all get taken care of and if emerg they will fly you or send you to states for MRI ior somewhere else in the province and all paid.for.within hrs know where you are going and they take care of it..if emerg, to hospital with the highest care in province or states for specialty or taken care of where you are at.. etc Never hear such horrible, horrible horrible sad, sad stories ever ever ever all unheard of period..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 06/29/2009
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There are no shortages of MRI machines, or CAT scans, or NMR scan machines in this country.

There are no shortages of beds, doctors etc. There is a shortage of Nurses

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 06/30/2009
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Medical school enrollement in the U.S. has dropped. Many would-be doctors are going into the tech industry or other non-medical related fields.

I speak to physicians on a daily basis and they are increasingly dissatisfied with the bureaucracy that manages their practice. Some are too old to leave and the younger physicians are trying to pay off their student loan.

And there is a significant shortage of beds in American hospitals. That is why the wait time in the emergency departements is so ridiculous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 06/30/2009
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