Democrats Caution: Franken Won't Drastically Change Political Realities

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First Posted: 06-30-09 05:39 PM   |   Updated: 07-31-09 05:12 AM

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Moments after former Sen. Norm Coleman conceded the drawn-out Minnesota Senate election to Al Franken, Gov. Tim Pawlenty said that that he would sign the election certificate. In a matter of minutes, the eight-month-long recount process had come to a close.

All was well within the Democratic Party, which had finally received that elusive 60th caucus member. The Republican filibuster would be no longer be a threat.

Or maybe not.

Franken is expected to come to Washington after the July 4th recess. But not everyone is convinced that his presence will make a huge political difference. The reality, which few in the Democratic Party are willing to talk about openly, is that there are really only 58 caucusing members. Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-MA, has been out for nearly all of the current Congress on medical leave. Sen. Robert Byrd, D-WV, while released from the hospital on Tuesday morning, continues to face health issues of his own. Meanwhile, moderate Democrats like Mary Landrieu, D-La, and Ben Nelson, D-Neb., have made it almost a point of pride in not allowing their votes to be taken for granted. And on specific issues, the party has proven strikingly allergic to philosophical unison.

"It is good news for the Democrats and it is bad news for the Republicans. That is a simple fact," said Mo Elleithee, a Democratic strategist who has worked on Hillary Clinton and Terry McAuliffe's campaigns. "Having said that, you don't want to get too far ahead of yourself here. It is not like the caucus is unanimous on every issue."

Talking on condition of anonymity, some Democratic strategists were even blunter. "Sixty is an imaginary number," said one operative. "You are always going to lose the Ben Nelsons and all the centrists. This is why 2010 proves to be so important because it can set a buffer for that 60 threshold."

"This is a story Jim Manley [Majority Leader Harry Reid's press secretary] will love, but it has the virtue of being true," the operative added.

"It's true," said Manley when reached by phone. "It is obviously sometimes difficult to say this to your audience [Huffington Post readers]. While this is, of course, good news to the people of Minnesota, President Obama, and the Senate Democratic, Franken's mere presence alone will not mean that the Democrats will be able to jam through our agenda, or make it any less critical for Democrats and Republicans to work together. We have a diverse caucus who represent diverse constituencies. No one's vote is ever automatic. Also... we have two senators that currently aren't voting right now. But then I would go back and say that up until now we have gotten very little to no help from Republicans who say no against everything and are prepared to bet on this president to fail."

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Discussing the new congressional landscape, officials in the White House and on the Hill wavered between relief and delight. As one administration official put it, "counting votes is a nice problem to have," as opposed to corralling them. Over in Congress, meanwhile, the prevailing wisdom held that leadership's job just got a bit lighter.

"Franken doesn't solve all of our problems," said long-time strategist Paul Begala, who regularly talks to all ranks of the Democratic establishment. "But first, as a friend and supporter of Al's, this is delayed justice but not denied. Second, this is a good day for Harry Reid. He has the hardest job in Washington except for the president. I'm not sure how he has any hairs left on his head. This won't solve all problems but it will make it much easier."

As Begala argued, it is easier to convince a senator on the fence to come into the party fold when he or she has the chance to the deal-breaking vote. The incentives, simply put, are more alluring and the White House might not need to make major concessions in order to get its priorities past.

"No one in that crowd in the middle wants to be the big leap to be the 57th," Begala said. "But if you are going to be 60th, or in the group that gets to 60, it becomes easier to leap across that gap."

Franken is likely to be sworn in next Tuesday and, according to Manely, he is poised to serve on the Judiciary and Health, Education, Labor & Pensions Committees, among others. In discussion with Democrats inside and out of office the issue they expect the newly elected Senator to have the greatest impact on is health care. On topics like the soon to be considered cap-and-trade bill and the Employee Free Choice Act, strategists say, the party might face deficits bigger than one additional vote.

Whip counts and legislation aside, the party is clearly embracing Wednesday's news. In addition to helping the Democratic Party face critical upcoming votes in the Senate, the seating of Franken is, at its most primal level, another shot to the gut for the reeling GOP.

"I'd rather be us than them," said Elleithee.

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Moments after former Sen. Norm Coleman conceded the drawn-out Minnesota Senate election to Al Franken, Gov. Tim Pawlenty said that that he would sign the election certificate. In a matter of minutes, ...
Moments after former Sen. Norm Coleman conceded the drawn-out Minnesota Senate election to Al Franken, Gov. Tim Pawlenty said that that he would sign the election certificate. In a matter of minutes, ...
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- Louee I'm a Fan of Louee 4 fans permalink

Sheesh. Just like the Dems to throw in the towel even when something good happens. They could take lessons from the Repubs on how to corral their people to get their agenda passed. It is pitiful that we do everything we can do to elect people who will stand up against the Repubs, and all we get from them is this mealy mouthed whining about how they need MORE. I'm totally disgusted with all of them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 07/01/2009
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Aww give the Dems a break. Unlike the repubs, whom the American people know are in the pockets of big corps and big pharma, the Democrats still have the ominous task of acting to act like they care about Democratic ideals and us li'l people while wallowing in the same corporate wallets.

I hear walking a tightrope that high up is pretty difficult.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 07/01/2009

Yet their lack of cohesion always invokes the time honored quote from the party leaders; "We are a diverse group who brings many new ideas to the table." Explains why the party hasn't had a firm platform in years, it results in a situation like we have now where a few well connected members of the leadership are strongarming every one else to accept their private agenda. One can only long for a coalition like the Republicans have, you may not agree with their ideas but at least their supporters always know what they stand for as a political party !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 07/01/2009

Buckle up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 07/01/2009
- kepary I'm a Fan of kepary 6 fans permalink

NO MORE TAXES

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 07/01/2009
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Sure. Santa Claus will pay for everything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 07/01/2009
- hidenout I'm a Fan of hidenout 9 fans permalink

or congress could cut spending

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 07/01/2009
- abouttime I'm a Fan of abouttime 24 fans permalink

Progressives unite.

A phony two party system actually prevents real, heartfelt legislation that reflects the interests of the common people. The citizenry must rise in making demands of representatives who for too long have sided with party elite in forming a phony unity which reflects the powerful corporate hegemony over American politics. The apathetic and cynical acceptance of the status quo in Washington politics by the electorate will change when progressives unite for the benefit of all people; even the poor, hungry, sick and ignorant humanity of society!

May Al Frankin represent truth and honor of representative democracy and lead the frightened representatives whose betrayal of the people may be captured in a new compassion for all!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 07/01/2009
- Ares1 I'm a Fan of Ares1 4 fans permalink

Their might be 60 caucus members for the Democrats, but 60 votes? that's another story.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 PM on 07/01/2009
- Antacid I'm a Fan of Antacid 8 fans permalink

Yay! Go stupidly designed US political system! Preventing effective legistlation since the 1790s!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 07/01/2009
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Its time for progressives to shapen their knives. This is probably going to get ugly.... and that is the way it should BE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 07/01/2009
- Democrab I'm a Fan of Democrab 19 fans permalink
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The democratic party continues to protect their "wuss" factor. Even though they have a mandate for change, the support of the majority of Americans, a sixty / forty sledgehammer in the senate, a house of representatives' majority and Barack Obama in the white house, they still publicly display the yellowest of streaks down their backs. They're like the elephant whose foot is chained so many times that when the chain is removed, the cuff keeps it stationary.
Breaking news: John Boehner, Lindsay Graham and Fox news are all nothing. They'll blow away like a bag of feathers at the first sign of aggression from a bollock laden left.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 07/01/2009
- mitsie I'm a Fan of mitsie 68 fans permalink
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BTW I got an email from Moveon.org, and they are going to be hosting a sit in type occurrence in Washington to try to convince Dems to vote for the public option for healthcare. I can't post a url to my email, but if you visit Moveon.org I'm sure you can read all about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 07/01/2009
- mitsie I'm a Fan of mitsie 68 fans permalink
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Here is the url, you can read about the rallies for healthcare.

http://www.moveon.org/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 07/01/2009

Al Franken himself said in his press conference yesterday
that his job is to work for the people of Minnesota...and
not to sway the numbers in any direction but to their security.
Not there to be a magic number but to work for the people
of his state. To stand firm when it was required but equally
to work with his fellow senators on issues for his state
and the country.
All the hoohah from others is just opportunistic noise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 07/01/2009
- wyldthings I'm a Fan of wyldthings 14 fans permalink

I see with a 60/40 majority the Democrats are now saying only in theory. So what they are telling you is you the progressives are going to be very disappointed in the near future. So I guess your about to realize that many states are not in line with progressives or liberal Democrats. All ready after one day the excuses are flying!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 07/01/2009
- sqwerl I'm a Fan of sqwerl 5 fans permalink

less than a day and the democrats are already comming up with excuses. you liberals are such fools. you make up less than 10% of the population, you believe their rhetoric during their campaigns and then get the high hard one. sometimes I feel bad for ya.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 07/01/2009

And where do you get your stats? Most Americans are center-left. We only want what we have worked for. The right has made it impossible for us to get ahead, and stolen what once made this country great.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 07/01/2009

and where do YOU get your stats.....about 35% of people call themselves dems, 27-30 republicans(depending on the poll). The most important figure is the 45-55%(again depending on the poll) of americans that consider themselves conservative, id hardly say thats center left

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 07/01/2009
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Aren't you late for a Bund rally?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 07/01/2009
- mitsie I'm a Fan of mitsie 68 fans permalink
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I don't believe your stats, please post a url to support them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 07/01/2009
- Louee I'm a Fan of Louee 4 fans permalink

If we're fools, you're a criminal for voting for the worst bunch of crooks ever to come down the political pike. Save your name calling. We progressives will win that fight every time, thanks to the lack of any morality in the republican party. By the way, we won, spewl.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 07/01/2009
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Coming soon to a theater near you:

"Portrait of a T*r0ll"

The sad story of a 40-something friendless, s*exless, and jobless (unless Dad let's him use the car for his on again off again Domino Pizza delivery gig) man who lives in the darkened basement of his parents New Jersey home. Embittered over his dishonorable discharge from the Army, Lester spends 18 hours per day surfing p*o*rn sites and ruminating over conspiracy theories with faceless others lashing out at all things not like him to include all liberals...especially Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton. Until a kindly black man from next door who is a disabled veteran endeavors to befriend Lester and show him that h*ate is the wrong path towards righteousness. He, however, fails."

Starring: Crispin Glover as Lester
Nick Nolte as the raged, alcoholic, and abusive father
Sissy Spacek as the repressed mother
and Charles Dutton.....as the neighbor

Rated R for graphic bitterness

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 07/01/2009
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LOL! I would love to see that movie. Fanned.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 PM on 07/01/2009
- mjwilstein I'm a Fan of mjwilstein 3 fans permalink

Michael Steele thinks otherwise. He has essentially given up, ready to blame the Dems for anything:
http://www.gotchamediablog.com/2009/07/michael-steele-has-completely-given-up.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 07/01/2009
- Kassandra I'm a Fan of Kassandra 113 fans permalink
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Harry Reid could have seated Franken a couple months ago. Now, why do suppose he didn't, if Franken isn't "going to make much of a difference"?????...
to avoid this very thing which will happen now; the Democrats cant hide behind the Republicans skirts anymore.
They know it, we know it and they know we know it. so, get busy Dems, we're watching.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 PM on 07/01/2009
- sqwerl I'm a Fan of sqwerl 5 fans permalink

yep, dems own the economy, health care, and the wars, (they've been paying for it since 2006).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 07/01/2009
- mitsie I'm a Fan of mitsie 68 fans permalink
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And the Republicans own the economy, two wars and healthcare. People have woke up, this kind of retoric won't work this time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 07/01/2009
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