AP Blows The Doors Off Of This 'Sex' Stuff We Keep Hearing About

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First Posted: 07- 1-09 11:58 AM   |   Updated: 08- 1-09 05:12 AM

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Sex. What is it exactly? Can you make babies, with this "sex?" Or is it merely something that Craigslist has to stop advertising, to save print journalism? Some reports indicate that an entire "entertainment industry" has stealthily formed itself, predicated on the notion that Americans are in constant, near-terror need of sex. But why then, does the thought of Mark Sanford having sex make everybody so sad inside? All of these are great mysteries, that no one had ever thought to penetrate. Until now, that is! Via Chris Lehmann comes the news that the brave souls at the Associated Press are finally going to get to the bottom of all of this sex stuff.

And AP's report, entitled, "What Is Sex? Americans Can't Agree," is just as delightful as you might suspect. You see, America was just sitting back, chilling, when all of the sudden, out of nowhere, "philandering politicians" started appearing in the news, with their "fuzzy definitions" of sex, and now the whole nation is gripped with "uneasiness." Yes! THAT IS EXACTLY HOW ALL OF THIS HAPPENED.

We talk about sex. A lot.


But all too often we don't know exactly what we're talking about. What's considered getting to third base these days anyway?

And when it comes to philandering politicians, the line on what's considered sex is especially fuzzy.

President Bill Clinton said oral sex wasn't sex. South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford says in his latest revelation that he "crossed lines" with women other than his wife and Argentine mistress, but "didn't cross the sex line." He wouldn't say what that meant.

AGH! I KNOW! Why didn't Mark Sanford clearly demarcate where the "sex line" was, in accordance with his destiny? How will any of us feel safe at "third base," ever again? Well, maybe none of this is Mark Sanford's fault! Maybe Mark Sanford was just the victim of our own notions about what sex is, or isn't. We have met the enemy, and, naturally, it has been polled, by a leading research institution!

In 1998, just as Clinton was defining what "is" is, two other Kinsey researchers were publishing a paper in the prestigious Journal of the American Medical Association on how people see sex. The answer: We can't really agree.


The study, based on 1991 survey of 599 college students, found something odd considering the parsing of male politicians. Women in general were less likely than men to consider oral sex or mutual masturbation as having "had sex."

Of the women, 37 percent considered oral sex as, well, sex. Forty-four percent of men did.

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A second survey in 1996, asked "Is oral sex 'real' sex?"

About 52 percent of the men said yes, but only 46 percent of women did.

To me, the greater concern might be what Americans think the third person singular present form of the verb "to be" is, but nevermind that! Maybe, somewhere rooted in our nations' collected body of cultural arcana is the knowledge we seek!

In the classic Meat Loaf song, "Paradise By The Dashboard Light," radio broadcaster Phil Rizzuto describes baseball players advancing bases, as a young couple negotiates intimacy in their car.


It helped cement the public on the 1960s analogy of first, second, third and home to increasingly intimate sexual activities.

Yes! Everybody knows that the 1960s notions of "intimacy" weren't cemented until 1977, when the wizened sage Meat Loaf descended unto the nation, to explain all of this! And yet, years later, the same Loaf would seemingly find himself in the unsteady waters in which we now swim, professing that he would "do anything for love, but he won't do that." Huh? What? Oh, that must be THE SEX LINE. Cross At Your Peril. Which reminds me, I've been meaning to open a bondage club in Washington, DC named "Your Peril." Any backers out there?

Anyway, AP's watershed report concludes:

Americans tend to judge politicians more harshly about marital infidelity than Europeans, said Janssen, who is Dutch. It's a cultural thing.


But we do have something in common with those across the Atlantic, Janssen said.

Europeans don't really have explicit definitions of sex in their languages, either.

So, they can be just as vague when they talk about it as we are.

Maybe the need for 'explicit definitions" is redundant in a culture where prominent politicians, like Silvio Berlusconi, flaunt their recreational sexatoriums without so much of a breath of concern. I had a mind to inquire, but Europe would not return my calls, presumably because they were all busy fucking.

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- hrholmes I'm a Fan of hrholmes 98 fans permalink
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I always thought that sex involved wee-wee's and woo-hoo's but I could be wrong according to Princeton.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 07/01/2009
- mediamarv I'm a Fan of mediamarv 38 fans permalink
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Good sex involves all of the above, but also Yoo-Hoo, the chocolate drink.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 07/01/2009

Finally someone who gets it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 07/01/2009
- biglover I'm a Fan of biglover 43 fans permalink

ROFLMAO!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 07/01/2009
- judiNJ I'm a Fan of judiNJ 56 fans permalink
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That is so funny I can't stand it. Now I am going to burst into guffaws all the rest of the day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:24 PM on 07/01/2009
- myworld I'm a Fan of myworld 9 fans permalink
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He's p. whipped.Nothing he says cant justify the breach of trust to his family and state.Leave and go to your lover already ,youre laying the ground work

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 07/01/2009
- KeyInfo I'm a Fan of KeyInfo 5 fans permalink

This dweeb needs to go back to high school with a box of condoms. He's acting like a chid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 07/01/2009
- BlackJAC I'm a Fan of BlackJAC 71 fans permalink

I remember reading that those abstinence-only kids only consider vaginal intercourse to be sex, which leads them to practice oral and unprotected anal sex in order to remain "pure."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 07/01/2009
- dillydawg I'm a Fan of dillydawg 58 fans permalink
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True but TMI.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 07/01/2009
- weatherwaxx I'm a Fan of weatherwaxx 259 fans permalink

Not TMI for the parents who don't believe their little darlings would ever do such a thing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 PM on 07/01/2009

I was under the impression that the "line" that Sanford was saying he had never crossed until Maria was "emotional love" not sexual. He'd messed around, but it wasn't "real" cheating.

That's why he didn't want to discuss what "the line" was...or what he considered sex.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 07/01/2009
- seachild I'm a Fan of seachild 28 fans permalink
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they should get divorced already...!...enough of it...he's in love with that woman...his SOULMATE, whom he secretly took a trip to see on FATHER'S DAY...hello?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 07/01/2009

I think that if you were to pay someone to do something to your "naughty bits" and the law states that the transaction is illegal, then it could probably be considered a "sex act. Or if you could catch an STD from the activity, it could be considered a "sex act." I really don't think it is mysterious for most people, is it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 07/01/2009
- knosiswar I'm a Fan of knosiswar 31 fans permalink

If I get a hummer, which I don't believe(?) I can get an STD from, then it's not sex, right? its just a hummer. If I get a massage for stress relief, it's not sex.

I would say that a hummer is a sex act, but it would not qualify as consumating a relationship, so to define an act as the act of 'sex', it would need to involve penetration.

The problem is the use of the word, because it is a once, more than one thing. It serves as a verb specific, and as a verb umbrella.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 PM on 07/01/2009
- DMSmith I'm a Fan of DMSmith 17 fans permalink

But, you see...you CAN get an STD from a hummer. Idiocy is dangerous, folks!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 07/01/2009
- BlueZoo I'm a Fan of BlueZoo 46 fans permalink

PLEASE do just a little bit of research and find out just how dangerous having oral sex can be! Many STDs are transferable via oral sex! You and your partner(s) are treading on shaky ground if you truly believe STDs cannot be transmitted via oral sex. Get informed!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 PM on 07/01/2009
- weatherwaxx I'm a Fan of weatherwaxx 259 fans permalink

For your own safety and your partner(s) sake, google AIDS PREVENTION and get the facts. ANY unprotected contact is a risk; some activities are just riskier than others.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 07/01/2009
- judiNJ I'm a Fan of judiNJ 56 fans permalink
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I thought that was something that you drove the family around in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 07/01/2009
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This is Biblethumpin sex we're talkin about here.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 07/01/2009
- kindGSL I'm a Fan of kindGSL 15 fans permalink
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Oh you mean with children?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 07/01/2009
- FLAdeziner I'm a Fan of FLAdeziner 2 fans permalink
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If someone, anyone, gets to reach a climax, it's DEFINITELY sex.

With clothes on, without clothes on, in a car, over the phone, or even with one foot on the floor, if one or both, 'ring the bell' it's definitely sex.

Now I happen to think that if 2 people get to third base, it's still sex, but I can imagine that there's a whole group of people out there that want a more visible line in the sand that has to be crossed to consider it sex, so I suggest the line in the sand should be 'ringing someone's bell'.

By defining 'sex' this way, there is a benefit. It will be easier to reduce the number of 6th graders that pop up with oral STDs every year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 07/01/2009
- Tabasco I'm a Fan of Tabasco 17 fans permalink

Thank heavens for the AP. Now I know my daughter didn't come from a cabbage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 07/01/2009
- hrholmes I'm a Fan of hrholmes 98 fans permalink
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The only way to be sure is the corned beef test! Preferably on Saint Patrick's Day!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 07/01/2009
- judiNJ I'm a Fan of judiNJ 56 fans permalink
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Not before and not after, instead of?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 07/01/2009
- LABC I'm a Fan of LABC 9 fans permalink

I just get irritated with the hypocrisy and then yammering about a love affair when it appears that you were practicing to find a "soul mate". And, on top of that - hey, thanks for trying to fall in love with your wife again...Just shaaaadup already, Sanford.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 07/01/2009

It is not sex if you are not in and out. Everything else is a bad attempt at sex.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 PM on 07/01/2009
- DosGatos2 I'm a Fan of DosGatos2 25 fans permalink

It's not about being uptight about sex, I don't care who he sleeps with and most other people probably don't either. The problem is that Sanfordi s a hypocrite and a liar, preaching "family values" to others but living by a very different set of rules.

He left SC without telling anyone where he was. That alone should be grounds for impeachment.--does not matter if he was hiking the Appalachian Trail or messing around on his wife.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 07/01/2009
- Wiseronenow I'm a Fan of Wiseronenow 111 fans permalink
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AP's research on what sex is can phrased in one line: "Sure, I'll still respect you in the morning. Ah, what's your name again"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 07/01/2009
- kindGSL I'm a Fan of kindGSL 15 fans permalink
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I'm still waiting for the AP to get around to telling us about torture.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 07/01/2009
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Well, there's The AP for you--ever so helpful. I wasn't sure what sex was five minutes ago before I read this, but , due to the incisive, in-depth reporting of The AP, at least I know that nobody else in the industrialized world knows what sex is either. AP, I am forever in your debt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 PM on 07/01/2009
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