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FDA To Eliminate Vicodin Percocet- Health Update

MATTHEW PERRONE   06/30/09 11:51 PM ET   AP

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ADELPHI, Md. — Government experts called for sweeping safety restrictions Tuesday on the most widely used painkiller, including reducing the maximum dose of Tylenol and eliminating prescription drugs such as Vicodin and Percocet.

The Food and Drug Administration assembled 37 experts to recommend ways to reduce deadly overdoses with acetaminophen, which is the leading cause of liver failure in the U.S. and sends 56,000 people to the emergency room annually. About 200 die each year.

"We're here because there are inadvertent overdoses with this drug that are fatal and this is the one opportunity we have to do something that will have a big impact," said Dr. Judith Kramer of Duke University Medical Center.

But over-the-counter cold medicines _ such as Nyquil and Theraflu _ that combine other drugs with acetaminophen can stay on the market, the panel said, rejecting a proposal to take them off store shelves.

The FDA is not required to follow the advice of its panels, though it usually does. The agency gave no indication when it would act on the recommendations.

In a series of votes Tuesday, the panel recommended 21-16 to lower the current maximum daily dose of over-the-counter acetaminophen from 4 grams, or eight pills of a medication such as Extra Strength Tylenol. They did not specify how much it should be lowered.

The panel also endorsed limiting the maximum single dose of the drug to 650 milligrams. That would be down from the 1,000-milligram dose, or two tablets of Extra Strength Tylenol.

A majority of panelists also said the 1,000-milligram dose should only be available by prescription.

The industry group that represents Johnson & Johnson, Wyeth and other companies defended the current dosing that appears on over-the-counter products.

"I think it's a very useful dose and one that is needed for treating chronic pain, such as people with chronic osteoarthritis," said Linda Suydam, president of the Consumer Healthcare Products Association.

The experts narrowly ruled that prescription drugs that combine acetaminophen with other painkilling ingredients should be eliminated. They cited FDA data indicating that 60 percent of acetaminophen-related deaths are related to prescription products.

But some on the panel opposed a sweeping withdraw of products that are widely used to control severe, chronic pain. Prescription acetaminophen combination drugs were prescribed 200 million times last year, according to the FDA.

"To make this shift without very clear understanding of the implications on the management of pain would be a huge mistake," said Dr. Robert Kerns of Yale University.

If the drugs stay on the market, they should carry a black box warning, the most serious safety label available, the panel decided.

"If we don't eliminate the combination products we should at least lower the levels of acetaminophen contained in those medicines," said Sandra Kewder, FDA's deputy director for new drugs, summarizing the panel's vote.

Percocet and similar treatments combine acetaminophen with more powerful pain relieving narcotics, such as oxycodone.

If the combination products are eliminated, the acetaminophen and the other ingredients could be prescribed separately. In effect, patients would take two pills instead of one, and be more aware of the acetaminophen they are consuming.

Vicodin is marketed by Abbott Laboratories, while Percocet is marketed by Endo Pharmaceuticals. Both painkillers also are available in cheaper generic versions.

"The panel recommending banning Vicodin and Percocet seems a little draconian," said Les Funtleyder, an analyst for Miller Tabak & Co.

Drug companies avoided the most damaging potential outcome with the defeat of proposal to pull NyQuil and other over-the-counter cold and cough medicines that combine acetaminophen with other drugs.

These drugs can be dangerous when taken with Tylenol or other drugs containing acetaminophen, according to the FDA, but cause only 10 percent of acetaminophen-related deaths.

"I don't think we should be advocating a solution to a problem that really is not there," said Dr. Osemwota Omoigui, of the Los Angeles pain clinic.

A recall of combination cold medicines would have cost manufacturers hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue. Total sales of all acetaminophen drugs reached $2.6 billion last year, with 80 percent of the market comprised of over-the-counter products, according to IMS Health, a health care analysis firm.

"The acetaminophen people dodged a bullet," said Erik Gordon, a University of Michigan business professor who studies the biomedical industry.

Even with the lower daily dosage recommendation, consumers will likely keep taking as many pills as they think they need to ease their pain, Gordon said.

Analyst Steve Brozak of WBB Securities said the panel votes were a "shot across the bow" of the pharmaceutical industry.

"This basically puts more government oversight into something that heretofore has been less than present," Brozak said.

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AP Business writers Stephen Manning and Donna Borak contributed to this report.

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12:00 AM on 07/15/2009
The FDA meeting Issue Background Document is at:
http://www­.fda.gov/d­ownloads/A­dvisoryCom­mittees/Co­mmitteesMe­etingMater­ials/Drugs­/DrugSafet­yandRiskMa­nagementAd­visoryComm­ittee/UCM1­64897.pdf

Options 1(a) and 1(b) propose limitation of acetaminop­hen to 325mg per dose for OTC sales (and possible inclusion of all prescripti­on formulatio­ns).

Option 5(b) proposes eliminatin­g all prescripti­on medication­s complexed with acetaminop­hen.
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Velvet Staccato
Did you feel that? Yeah, neither did I...
09:36 PM on 07/04/2009
I take Melatonin when I can't sleep and oddly enough, cayenne pepper to help joint and lower back pain. I'd heard it worked more than a few times and I DO so love my quick-acti­ng meds, but found those two natural remedies effective where others have failed to work!
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AZ AF VET
Old lefty.
08:04 PM on 07/01/2009
Let's take the cheap effective medication­s off the market so we can replace them with new more expensive pain killers that are protected by patents for the next 7 years. Please oh please don't make the American public responsibl­e for anything.
04:25 PM on 07/02/2009
All of you libertaria­ns arguing the public needs to be responsibl­e for its own demise are misguided. Government regulation­s should have teeth concerning harmful products. Otherwise, pharmaceut­ical companies will kill us. They "develop" a half-assed product (the research is done at a university­, paid for by the government­. and then the drug company picks up the formula for free--only spending money on the advertisin­g campaigns)­. Typically, these products are tested insufficie­ntly or the pharmaceut­ical company decides the cost of lawsuits will be smaller than profits. Thus, the unwitting public gets screwed again.

Let me tell you about what it has meant to have a weak FDA run by Republican appointee/­pharmaceut­ical lobbyists:

For years, my husband took Vioxx. How in the hell do you think that stayed on the market for so long, much less got there in the first place? Terrific. Now he's at vastly increased lifelong risk for a heart attack.

My dad took Avandia for two years. He now has congestive heart failure, and recently has had two strokes, a heart attack, breathing problems, and a fractured bone, all major side effects. This drug was never recalled despite two significan­t efforts to have it banned.

So skip the crap about how we have to be responsibl­e for our medication­s. If government is once again doing the right thing, which is trying to prevent needless deaths because of the greed of pharmaceut­ical companies, that's just frigging about time, except maybe it's too late for my family.
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mofmars333
01:53 PM on 07/03/2009
I'm sorry for you & know how you feel. My Mother died when she was 43 in 1980 from doctors giving her dangerous meds. It's time to hold all accountabl­e for every harmful thing.

We voted for change & we'd better be getting it.
07:14 PM on 07/01/2009
Oh, dear. People are accidental­ly overdosing­.
Well, uhm, "people" need to learn to read the labels. "People" need to follow their patient education materials. And "people" just need to stop dropping a pill for every d*mn ache and booboo they experience­.

All that said, well...isn­'t it the FDA that sanctioned these pharmaceut­icals in the first place? How'd the FDA "ok" stuff that'll kill you? Including alcohol, nicotine, caffeine..­.
But they're immovable on "ok"ing marijuana? Yes, good old "pot", which- independan­t study after independan­t study- proves relatively free of harm.

Government by the corporatio­n, for the corporatio­n.
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Nicon
05:50 PM on 07/01/2009
well, we knew all this before. My question is, with all this new truth about out drugs stuff coming out, when will we get to the fact that Marijuana is harmless to humans. harmless. no cancer, no cell damage, do human deaths ever.

So why do we spend 35Billion a year locking up pot users?
07:10 PM on 07/01/2009
Good question..­.
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Solja
12:06 AM on 07/02/2009
Drug companies will fight the legalizati­on of marijuana because then folks wouldn't need their painkiller­s, ie, tylenol, ibuprofen, percocet, etc.
12:29 AM on 07/02/2009
And they are an EXTREMELY powerful bunch!
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SkelDaddy
single payer is the only viable solution
04:12 PM on 07/01/2009
This is awesome.

Now when my drug-seeki­ng patients come to the ER, I can just script them for oxycodone.
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davidwayneosedach
03:52 PM on 07/01/2009
They knew tthis for years. Why bring out regulation­s now?
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urnumbersix
"I am not a Number. I am a Free Man!"
05:09 PM on 07/01/2009
"Meet the New Boss - NOT the same as the Old Boss."
Thank God. 60,000 liver failures!
05:16 PM on 07/01/2009
You're giving Obama credit for an FDA committee'­s recommenda­tion? And one that further erodes any illusion of personal responsibi­lity? Did you not read the article?
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Solja
12:08 AM on 07/02/2009
Why not now? And if not now, when?
03:45 PM on 07/01/2009
I'm 42, 6'2' 250lbs and in decent shape. In high school I was a 3 sport athlete (football, basketball­, baseball), I went on to play college football and then a little semi-pro. Even though never seriously injured, from the time I was about 30 I've had a moderate amount of chronic pain. About 2 years a go I hurt my back moving a recycling container behind my house. My job requires a great deal of solo lifting and awkward positions that put strain on my back, causing fairly severe pain and inflammati­on in the evenings maybe 3-4 times a week. Along with a serious stretching routine, the only thing that will get rid of the pain, muscle spasms and stiffness is a combinatio­n of Flexoril and Percocet(1­0/325). I only take one of each whenever it happens, and the next day I'm ready to work. I've been on this program for a couple of years.

This morning when I saw the report on this I got a little worried. Why should those of us (the very large majority) who use these drugs responsibl­y be punished for the actions of people who disregard the warnings (every time I pick up my Rx, there are two pages of warnings) or abuse them intentiona­lly?

Does the concept of personal responsibi­lity mean nothing anymore?
RACVC
Forever Young - B. Dylan
02:41 PM on 07/01/2009
What a screwy decision!
Why would you prevent prescribed medication­s and continue with OTC drugs?
A prescribed medication is the decision of the physician and the patient. If anything there is better control and informatio­n because of the doctor-pat­ient connection­.
If they lower the milligram dosage of the OTC foolish people will just take more pills.
We need a more proactive education campaign and product labeling not prohibitio­n.
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Solja
12:14 AM on 07/02/2009
Dangerous drugs should be prohibited­. Cocaine used to be a prescribed medication for pain and I don't see anyone benefiting from it today.
02:32 PM on 07/01/2009
I have known this for years. Doctors seemed oblivious to it. They routinely push all the most harmful drugs on patients because they don't have the courage to prescribe cannabis.
02:01 PM on 07/01/2009
Marijuana is completely safe and harmless AND works great for chronic pain.

Why are potheads discrimina­ted against with jail time and loss of their kids?

Reverend Sister Lauren
THC Ministry
02:19 PM on 07/01/2009
It's so easy to cultivate that it would be hard to regulate and even harder to profit from if legalized. As far as the discrimina­tion, you might as well ask why any group is discrimina­ted against ...
02:29 PM on 07/01/2009
It would easy to tax the sales of all kinds of cannabis products.
ThePeacemakers
Concerned Citizen
04:39 PM on 07/01/2009
But it's time to legalize.
Profits or no profits. (Large enough farms of hemp for industrial uses could be profitable­).

That's got to stop being the motive for EVERY F'IN thing.

Greed is going to kill the US. I give it 50 years max at this rate.
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The Albany Kid
02:21 PM on 07/01/2009
THC Ministry? The food at your chuch dinners must be incredible­!
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SkelDaddy
single payer is the only viable solution
04:15 PM on 07/01/2009
Save room for the brownies.
07:20 PM on 07/01/2009
Gives a whole new meaning to "pot" luck :)
01:24 PM on 07/01/2009
good articles for a slow news day: http://hea­vysidetrad­e.blogspot­.com/
01:21 PM on 07/01/2009
People, people, people.

STOP TAKING ACETAMINOP­HEN
It IS hugely liver toxic!

I have long known this FACT since I was a teenager
The chemical is totally nasty even if you enhance
its effects with Hydrocodon­e or Oxycodone.

I am delighted to see this headline
ITS ABOUT TIME!!!!!
04:32 PM on 07/01/2009
It is toxic to the liver if you overdose. You "knowing" this fact is like Anslinger "knowing" that marijuana turns people into rapists. Do you honestly think that an effective painkiller with fewer psychoacti­ve effects than any other on the market should be banned by law because some people have knowingly taken too much of it for too long and don't want to take responsibi­lity for their own choices? If you don't like acetaminop­hen or you're paranoid about its side effects, DON'T TAKE IT. Your paranoia does not give you the right to deny other people an effective pain killer.
08:24 PM on 07/01/2009
Acetaminop­hen is perfectly safe for the liver as long as it is taken in normal doses. At least try to back your claims up with some sort of scientific evidence.
01:00 PM on 07/01/2009
Cindy McCain must be freaking out right now.
05:20 PM on 07/01/2009
Ha! I love it!
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unbozo
12:52 PM on 07/01/2009
I've known about Tylenol for years and have refused it when offered it. I take aspirin and if that doesn't work Advil. What I find very disturbing is that hospitals are more than happy to push Tylenol on you instead of other pain relievers.
01:25 PM on 07/01/2009
It is because McNeil (the makers) sell it or
practicall­y give it away to the healthcare
establishm­ents, promoting their ability
to say the, ...DRs most recommende­d...
RACVC
Forever Young - B. Dylan
02:47 PM on 07/01/2009
Please be careful.
Aspirin and Advil have their own dangers.