Lieberman Reprises Role As Health Care Spoiler

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First Posted: 07- 1-09 06:15 PM   |   Updated: 07- 2-09 08:32 AM

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With reporting by Laura Dean

Sen. Joseph Lieberman affirmed on Tuesday what progressive health care reform advocates have long feared: At this juncture, he is likely to oppose a public option for health insurance coverage.

The Connecticut independent made his latest criticisms of a public option in an interview with the New Haven Independent. Weeks earlier, he told Bloomberg News that he didn't favor such an approach that might level the insurance industry market.

For Democrats, it was a shot to the gut -- the latest so-called centrist lawmaker from within their own party ranks speaking out against one of their most cherished aspects of health care reform. For all the angst Lieberman has caused within Democratic circles the past few years, he was supposed to be an ally on domestic issues.

But was it all that unexpected? Those close to the senator argue that he has always been skeptical of large government involvement in the health care industry and that he has always advocated for a more incremental approach to health care reform.

"He has been very consistent in trying to seek innovative approaches to try and get to universal health care coverage," said Dan Gerstein, a former aide. "When he was part of the '00 ticket, he supported Al Gore's step-by-step approach to getting health care reform, which at the time many progressives were very supportive of. This is not a debate about goals for him. This is a debate about means, both in terms of what makes sense on a policy basis and what is obtainable."

This certainly was the role Lieberman played during the last major reform effort. During the heart of the Clinton-era debate over the how to restructure the health care system, the then-Democrat was a constant thorn in the administration's side. As early as December 1993, he was calling the Clinton plan "too governmental, too regulatory and too costly." A supporter of a moderate bill championed by then Sen. John Breaux, Lieberman would add the descriptions "too big" and "too bureaucratic" to Clinton's approach several months later.

By the summer of 2004, Lieberman was attacking the notion that employers should be required to provide health care for their workers, arguing that there was "a universal consensus" against the idea. He pledged to try and strip the provision from Majority Leader George Mitchell's health care proposal. He also said he was willing to take a look at the plan put forth by the then Minority Leader, Sen. Bob Dole, which was structured largely after the approach then-candidate George H.W. Bush had promoted during the '92 campaign.

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A month later, Lieberman stepped up his push for Breaux's proposal, which called for providing subsidies to lower-income families, demanded that insurance companies cover preexisting conditions and limited the tax benefits employers enjoyed for covering their workers (components that defined John McCain's 2008 approach).

"If this doesn't break the logjam," Lieberman said at the time, "nothing will."

Later that summer, the senator joined the moderate push to make sharp cuts in the prescription drug benefit included in the Clinton and Mitchell plans. In its place, Lieberman promoted means-testing -- a measure to determine which individuals could qualify for those benefits -- and setting a cap on spending for long-term care.

A critic of that idea, John Rother, the chief lobbyist for the American Association of Retired Persons, derided Lieberman for putting the possibility of achieving health care reform "in jeopardy" in 1994.

"This is more of a Band-Aid approach than real health reform," Rother said at the time.

Asked to assess Sen. Lieberman's approach to health care 15 years later, Rother said that not much had changed. "Based on his record, this is no surprise," he told the Huffinton Post. "His views haven't really changed that much... I think anyone who followed his career sees he is an Independent in many ways. I don't think you could assume support just because he is aligned with the Democratic caucus."

Nevertheless, there was an element of the Democratic party that did hope that time and circumstance might have tempered Lieberman's position on the issue. Certainly, when Democrats accepted the senator back into their ranks after he campaigned publicly against President Barack Obama, the condition seemed to be that he would support Obama on key legislative issues.

Lieberman's office did not respond to a request for comment.

Lieberman, who over the course of his career has taken more than $1 million from health professionals and insurance companies, as well as more than $600,000 from pharmaceutical and health product companies and $250,000 from health services and HMOs, could still come on board. He started off his interview with the New Haven Independent by saying he was "skeptical" of the public option -- not fully opposed -- because he feared "the public is going to end up paying for it."

The progressive community is doing what it can to change his mind.

"We expect Sen. Lieberman to support President Obama's health care plan, including offering the choice of a new public health insurance option to lower costs and keep the insurance companies honest," Jacki Schechner, National Communications Director for Health Care for America Now. "As for Sen. Lieberman's concerns, the president just explained in today's Town Hall that his plans for reform will be deficit neutral, and we'll pay for reform by reallocating wasted money already in the system and by cutting itemized deductions for the wealthiest 2 percent."

UPDATE: Lieberman spokesman Marshall Wittmann writes on with the following comment, early Thursday morning.

Contrary to the suggestion that Senator Lieberman is a "health care spoiler," the opposite is true because Senator Lieberman is working hard to build a coalition to pass a health care reform bill. Although he does not support a public option that would be cost prohibitive and would make it very unlikely to pass a bill, he strongly supports health care reform that expands access, lowers costs and increases quality of care.


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- smoovejef I'm a Fan of smoovejef 16 fans permalink
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If he kills a public option this time, his career will die too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 07/03/2009
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I sure hope that voters in CT get rid of this jerk when he runs again!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 07/03/2009
- hhayden I'm a Fan of hhayden 71 fans permalink

I take it you are interested in politics as you have come to this site. You have read the information and have bothered to respond on this blog. Having gone to that trouble it is curious to me that this is the best comment you could come up with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 07/03/2009
- Okieborn I'm a Fan of Okieborn 75 fans permalink

Good Old Lieberman !!
You can always count on him to pi** in the pie!!
Keep diffing your hole Joe !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 07/03/2009
- gbrooks I'm a Fan of gbrooks 114 fans permalink
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What d*****bags keep voting for this creep anyways?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 AM on 07/03/2009
- hhayden I'm a Fan of hhayden 71 fans permalink

Average voters, like yourself, who believe he doing a good job.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 AM on 07/03/2009
- digdeeper I'm a Fan of digdeeper 18 fans permalink

You know public health care works. Look at other countries, they manage it. Sure there are complaints, the moaners always want more but at least when you are ill, by and large you get treatment. I have seen it for myself in the UK, France and Canada.
How come the most powerful country in the world treats it's people so poorly in fact as bad as a poverty stricken 3rd world country where they genuinely cannot afford it.
As far as healthcare is concerned the US is a disgrace

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 07/03/2009
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Well this is a win-win for Lieberman. He can get a bunch of attention and make his home state insurance companies happy. Look, if we are going to do it we have to do it without him. No EXCUSES!!!!

GET 'ER DONE! **cringed a little saying that**

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 AM on 07/03/2009
- newhouse1 I'm a Fan of newhouse1 68 fans permalink
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Lieberman is from Connecticut, the insurance capital of America. Hello... does The Hartford insurance company ring a bell? In the national healthcare debate, when the issue comes to whether insurance companies are going to have to capitulate on something, anything, Joe will be advocating in his own best interests, which in this case means he's literally a lap puppet. Better success is to be found in the Senators from Maine than from Lieberman on this issue. That should come as no surprise, and is no different than a Senator from Kansas advocating for wheat-farm subsidies, or a Senator from Texas advocating for oil drilling offshore, or a Senator from New York advocating for the state to remaing the most disfunctional and heavily taxed public entity in the whole world! Maybe the whole known universe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 AM on 07/03/2009
- hhayden I'm a Fan of hhayden 71 fans permalink

If someone is on the right side of an issue, it's the right side. Undue influence, even if it exists, shouldn't change that. The single payer system puts too much discretionary power in the hands of one entity. If that entity is the government it puts too much of the power in their hands. Government routinely abuses power. If you are worried about taxes, just hold on to your wallet - if you can. As the saying goes - You ain't seen nothin' yet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 AM on 07/03/2009
- newhouse1 I'm a Fan of newhouse1 68 fans permalink
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Nice post, but totally divorced from reality. Right now, as we speak (type), someone, actually a lot of someone's, is being screwed by an insurance company (not a government entity at all), and being told a treatment for a serious health issue is NOT covered. Your health is a crap shoot? Your arbitrary fate of DNA that has you susceptible to getting cerebral palsey, or heart disease, or breast cancer, is such that you served in the Marines, worked hard your whole life, paid more than your fair share of taxes, are not rich but live within all the norms, and some insurance bureaucrat is determining that you need to file for bankruptcy or sell your house or move in with your children because the bypass surgery to keep you alive has crippled you as a person? Sorry, but that is not right, and it is real, and it is happening to real people... like the author of this comment!

I don't want government running my life, more than you could ever know. But spending 3 trillion dollars to kick Saddam out of power, and that outlay of money, if put to our healthcare issue, would have changed the game? Let's not get carried too far away from reality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 AM on 07/03/2009
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I thought that the right was all about competition? Let the market decide.....well guess what, the American tax payer IS the market these days and we want a public option.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 AM on 07/03/2009
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Single payer seems to work for the European Union. And most of the developed world. What you're saying, is that government people can't be trusted here in this country.

Now I wonder, what with the Wall Street meltdown, and the ousting of Saddam in an unwarranted war, and targeted firing of attorneys general because they don't toe the party line, and torture, (I have more) why would people trust anyone on the right?

Talk about a blueprint for a banana republic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 07/03/2009
- mergina I'm a Fan of mergina 96 fans permalink
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This pitiful weasel cannot be trusted. Republican phony.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 AM on 07/03/2009
- hhayden I'm a Fan of hhayden 71 fans permalink

Don't you think that name calling reflects more on you than it does on him?

Why do politician have to be locked into one thin line of ideology drawn on one party? There are probably good and bad things on either side. Why not take the best of both, such as there is?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 AM on 07/03/2009
- newhouse1 I'm a Fan of newhouse1 68 fans permalink
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At times, I'm a bit silly and view all comments with the respect that the author had forethought and comments without malice. But seriously, let's not get carried away. References to efforts to reform healthcare since Teddy Roosevelt are true. The 1993 effort was real, and failed when only 30 million were in dire straits. That Republicans have always been for big business (big insurance, Wall St, big oil, et al), goes without saying. But their agenda now DOUBLES DOWN in opposing real healthcare reform, AND opposing anything that makes Obama look like he's providing leadership and adult supervision. So in this case, ideological lines are real and matter. As such, Republican ideology and base-appeal is totally to be discounted on this issue!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 AM on 07/03/2009
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Then why do assume the right is right? Democrats have been the party of the individual citizen in all of my memory. All of the debacles within my lifetime have been on the republican's ticket. S&L bailout, Watergate, Iran-Contra, Iraq War, Bush Depression, There's lots more where this came from. All of the above for treasure, some at the cost of a few lives and more than a few principles.

And you'll notice the ideological divide was perpetrated and sustained by the right. Look up Rovian. Or look up Rove - just pick up a rock.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 AM on 07/03/2009
- Layman23 I'm a Fan of Layman23 14 fans permalink

Lieberman makes a great israeli ambassador to the US, rather than a US senator.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 AM on 07/03/2009
- hhayden I'm a Fan of hhayden 71 fans permalink

We should support our true allies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 AM on 07/03/2009
- Layman23 I'm a Fan of Layman23 14 fans permalink

Yes, and not let the Allies dictate how we should run our country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 07/03/2009
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Isreal is only our ally when it suits their purposes. In fact they are just another mid-east theocracy obsessed with their own status.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 07/03/2009
- newhouse1 I'm a Fan of newhouse1 68 fans permalink
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If Obama REALLY had his act together, he would have made that appointment on January 21st!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 AM on 07/03/2009
- hhayden I'm a Fan of hhayden 71 fans permalink

I doubt Lieberman would have accepted it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 07/03/2009
- hhayden I'm a Fan of hhayden 71 fans permalink

Obama put thousands of troops on the attack in Southern Afganistan. So he isn't all bad. He may be a real Bush Jr. yet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 AM on 07/03/2009

On what planet was this alien born? I hope the people of Connecticut find the will power to go against the insurance lobby and the pill pimps and send this perpetual hypocrite packing, or risk becoming as big a joke as the state that elects such mental giants as Bachman.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 PM on 07/02/2009
- hhayden I'm a Fan of hhayden 71 fans permalink

Mass. keeps electing Kennedy who is one of the most dispicable people ever to be a blight on Congress.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 PM on 07/02/2009

I am shocked. Shocked I tell you, that Holy Joe would lie and fleep flop. He was all for Universal Healthcare in '06. And,now, he's found out that Hadassah is making money off being a lobbyist for mutliple healthcare related corps. OMG, what is a senator who is the husband of Hadassah supposed to do? Well, hell, ofcourse he has to vote in favor of Hadassah's cos. because how are they going to make any money. Meanwhile. Holy Joe, has received that expensive government healthcare that he doesn't think others should get for all of his professional life, save for 2 years. That govenment care is apparently that awful.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 07/02/2009
- hhayden I'm a Fan of hhayden 71 fans permalink

I wouldn't call it a flip flop - I'd say it's coming to his senses. Where is value in clinging to a bad idea? And why is there a need for penalties in a health care scheme? All the folks in congress as well as the president get special health care. That's one of the reasons they don't mind imposing it on us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 PM on 07/02/2009
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Joe would flip the other way if it was in his political interest. How convenient for your view. If he was leaning the other way, you'd be livid.

As it is, the citizens of Connecticut need to give this one the boost at the next opportunity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 AM on 07/03/2009
- liberalbug I'm a Fan of liberalbug 53 fans permalink
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In Obama's inauguration speech he spoke of a willingness to work with foreign dictatorships that were willing to extend us a hand rather than a fist. By the same token, Obama extended Lieberman a hand despite his despicable behavior during the campaign. In return, Obama is getting nothing but a fist, if not a middle finger, from Lieberman. It is time to smack him back. Makie him irrelevant, kick him off his precious little committees in the Senate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 07/02/2009
- hhayden I'm a Fan of hhayden 71 fans permalink

Kissing the behinds of forign dictators - that's really going well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 07/02/2009
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Isn't your comment a little inflammatory? On one hand you ask for taking the good and bad from both parties, but then the butt-kissing pejorative. If you're really a reasonable person without any interest other than good government, you wouldn't show your a$$ like that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 07/03/2009
- MED1025 I'm a Fan of MED1025 14 fans permalink
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He probably wants the democratic caucus to make him a deal. I hope they manage to cobble together enough votes so they don't have to give him the time of day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 07/02/2009

God bless Joe Lieberman.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 PM on 07/02/2009
- Mugzi I'm a Fan of Mugzi 13 fans permalink

Yes, children, men and women are dying for lack of healthcare - you and Lieberman must be proud!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 07/02/2009
- hhayden I'm a Fan of hhayden 71 fans permalink

Do you care about the people who will die because of rationed health care because some bureaucrat doesn't think their treatment is worth the money like they do in England and Canada and many other parts of the world?

It's good to have someone like Lieberman who votes his conscience rather than just blindly rubber stamps a party line.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 07/02/2009
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Let's hope you are delivered some of the good fortune you wish for others.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 AM on 07/03/2009
- hhayden I'm a Fan of hhayden 71 fans permalink

Thanks. I hpoe so too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 07/03/2009
- swan1 I'm a Fan of swan1 9 fans permalink

I knew this ugly mofo would be trouble. He has been "good" as long as he can, now he goes back to the real thug he is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 07/02/2009
- hhayden I'm a Fan of hhayden 71 fans permalink

Even if you don't care for his politics, I hardly think "thug" applies. I wouldn't even put that mantel on Obama who grew out of the most corrupt political system in America. And if "mofo" is what I think it is I suspect he's not guilty there either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 07/02/2009
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