Obama Takes Health Care Pitch To Annandale, Virginia (VIDEO)

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First Posted: 07- 1-09 08:55 AM   |   Updated: 08- 1-09 05:12 AM

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(AP) ANNANDALE, Va. — President Barack Obama hugged a cancer patient Wednesday at an emotional forum before a supportive audience and vowed to bring greater efficiency and accessibility to the nation's health care system.

Debby Smith, 53, of Appalachia, Va., a volunteer for Obama's political operation, fought tears as she told the president of her kidney cancer and her inability to obtain health insurance or hold a job. Obama embraced her and called her "exhibit A" in what he said was an unsustainable system that is too expensive and complex for millions of Americans.

"We are going to try to find ways to help you immediately," he told Smith as hundreds looked on at a community college forum _ and countless others watched on television. But the nation's long-term needs require a greater emphasis on preventive care and "cost-effective care," he said.

Smith obtained her ticket through the White House. Aides said she was a volunteer for Organizing for America, Obama's political operation within the Democratic National Committee. Among the other questioners were a member of the Service Employees International Union and a person with Health Care for America Now, which recently organized a Capitol Hill rally for overhauling health care.

Also questioning the president _ via the Internet _ was Republican Rep. Michael Burgess of Texas, an obstetrician.

Obama aides said half the tickets were distributed through the community college, with the balance handled through the White House.

The president said the best way to drive down health care costs is to persuade doctors and hospitals to emphasize quality of care over the quantity of procedures.

Health experts have long criticized formulas that tie Medicare payments to tests and other services that may not always be the best way to treat a patient. Obama said the formulas must change as part of his bid to overhaul U.S. health care delivery.

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"The biggest thing we can do to hold down costs is to change the incentives of a health care system that automatically equates expensive care with better care," the president said. He said the formula system drives up costs "but doesn't make you better."

Obama did not make specific recommendations for changing the incentive formulas. Nor did he offer new proposals or details for other tough issues, such as whether to limit medical malpractice awards or to tax employer-subsidized health care benefits.

He repeatedly said the current health care system is not acceptable and must be overhauled this year. He urged the audience, which included people following on Facebook and YouTube, to reject critics who say his plans are too costly or a step toward socialized medicine.

Obama gave a nearly 20-minute introduction and answered seven questions.

Obama said a government-run "single-payer" health care system works well in some countries. But it is not appropriate in the United States, he said, because so many people get insurance through their employers working with private companies.

But he again called for a government-run "public option" to compete with private insurers, a plan that many Republicans oppose.

Obama said the public option would provide "competition and choice" and "keep insurers honest."

Obama also said his health care plan would benefit small businesses and people who are self-employed, by giving them more leverage in dealing with insurance companies. He would do it through a health care exchange for employers who have too few workers to get a good health insurance package, and for people who are self-employed.

Obama said they would be able to look at the plans available and join with others in the same situation. They would become part of a "big pool" with the leverage to drive down costs, he said.

When a man from Texas said limits on awards from medical malpractice lawsuits would bring down health care costs, the president replied, "I don't like the idea of an artificial cap" on such awards for injuries suffered. He also said there is little evidence that various states' efforts to limit such awards have uniformly brought down costs.

Obama said, however, that he is working with the American Medical Association to explore ways to reduce liability for doctors and hospitals "when they've done nothing wrong." He offered no specifics.

Congress will return to debating health care when it returns Monday from a one-week recess. Obama's agenda calls for reducing delivery costs even as insurance coverage is extended to virtually all Americans.

Obama says the government will not borrow money to carry out the plans, but many Republicans are dubious if not outright hostile to his proposals.

(AP) ANNANDALE, Va. — President Barack Obama hugged a cancer patient Wednesday at an emotional forum before a supportive audience and vowed to bring greater efficiency and accessibility to the n...
(AP) ANNANDALE, Va. — President Barack Obama hugged a cancer patient Wednesday at an emotional forum before a supportive audience and vowed to bring greater efficiency and accessibility to the n...
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Why hasn't the Congress asked the CBO for a costs analysis of single payer?

Supposedly they're working to arrive at the best plan but the CBO has never been tasked to analyze the single payer program?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 07/01/2009
- Lorianne I'm a Fan of Lorianne 60 fans permalink
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Good questions
Because no one is seriously proposing single payer ... that would be my guess.
If they were, they would have gotten the CBO to price it out vs other plans on the table.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 07/01/2009
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Are you just going to keep repeating this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 07/01/2009
- KindMisica I'm a Fan of KindMisica 85 fans permalink
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Single-payer works great in many countries, it might work here too, but it won't fly.Not right now, anyway.
It'd mean a major overhaul of the entire system, and the GOP-ers and more Dems would go berzerk.
But we can at least have the Public Option, which is a step forward. And who knows, if it works well, and more people will prefer it over insurers' plan, then it could develop into a single payer system.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 07/01/2009
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What is the 'public option'?
Do you have details?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 PM on 07/01/2009
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Let s get the Congress to ask the CBO for a costs analysis of single payer and bag the public option sham that is actually a subsidy of the insurance industry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 07/01/2009
- NWRICK I'm a Fan of NWRICK 272 fans permalink
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~sigh~

You just don't get it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 PM on 07/01/2009
- Lorianne I'm a Fan of Lorianne 60 fans permalink
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Pre-cisely

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 07/01/2009
- KindMisica I'm a Fan of KindMisica 85 fans permalink
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Bottom line: if the public option won't be included, it won't be any real healthcare reform. Period.
You may call it what you want and sell that watered-down "thingy" as a "great achievement", it won't mean a thing. I will call it "the epic fail bill".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 07/01/2009
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Public option is a deal breaker for me.
If it fails, then I agree.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 07/01/2009
- Lorianne I'm a Fan of Lorianne 60 fans permalink
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What is the 'public option'?
Do you have details?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 07/01/2009
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Ladynaga:

OT, but it looks like the U.S. does have the distinction of being the nation with the highest obesity rate:

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_obe-health-obesity

(Data from 2005, though.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 07/01/2009
- ladynaga I'm a Fan of ladynaga 533 fans permalink
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I thought I watched a news show that has some Polynesian Island have the obesity rate of 80%, but I could be wrong

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 07/01/2009
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That may be true. The list only had about 30 countries on it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 07/01/2009
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Cr@p this depresses me. I need chocolate.

LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 07/01/2009
- ladynaga I'm a Fan of ladynaga 533 fans permalink
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Are you sharing?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 07/01/2009
- SweetBabu I'm a Fan of SweetBabu 93 fans permalink
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Funny! (My husband just ran out for Wendy's.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 07/01/2009
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O's plan in Afghanistan, he had all the answers and more before he was Prez., now what?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 PM on 07/01/2009
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Execution. Implement the plan. He did not have the plan before becoming Prez. He consulted with the generals and developed a new strategy for the region and selected new leadership.

I hope it works, but if it does not, then re-think, re-stragegize, re-implement. Bring the troops home.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 07/01/2009
- theMightyT I'm a Fan of theMightyT 171 fans permalink

Our share of taxes that go into the health care pot in Canada amount to $1000 a year for our family of 4, which in addition to our benefits package from my wife's employer covers us for absolutely everything.

No extras to pay, no copays... nothing.

How much is the average health insurance plan, yearly, in the States?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 07/01/2009
- EconPadawan I'm a Fan of EconPadawan 283 fans permalink
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In 2008, total national health expenditures were expected to rise 6.9 percent -- two times the rate of inflation.­1 Total spending was $2.4 TRILLION in 2007, or $7900 per person1. Total health care spending represented 17 percent of the gross domestic product (GDP).

http://www.nchc.org/facts/cost.shtml

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 07/01/2009
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Just looked at my hubby's pay stub, and we pay $317/month for medical only. His employer doesn't provide eye or dental insurance. So anything related to that comes out of our pockets (and he and my son have lots of dental work every year!). We also have co-pays (different rates for family doctors and specialists) and deductibles for hospital stays. Last year I had to estimate our out-of-pocket medical expenses for a financial aid form for my son's school, and they were about $4,000. So between that and the $$ we pay for the plan through his job we are at about $8,000/year for medical costs.

And I think we have a GOOD deal and are lucky.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 07/01/2009
- mrsmdressup I'm a Fan of mrsmdressup 345 fans permalink
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Ouch!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 07/01/2009
- ladynaga I'm a Fan of ladynaga 533 fans permalink
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I guess I'm pretty lucky. I paid about $200/month for insurance, dental, life insurance and additional disability insurance but it's just my son and I

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 07/01/2009
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I bet if you look at the pay stub again you will see you are also paying medicare too. I know I am on top of everything else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 07/01/2009
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This is from a web site for foreign visitors to France. Nice and simple.
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"The French state provides health care for all people living in France. In some cases, you might even benefit from special programs for people in financial difficulti­es."

If you are not covered by the system of your country of origin and are not eligible for basic social security schemes (which include health insurance), you might benefit from two specific health care systems, Universal Health Insurance Coverage (CMU) or State Health Aid (AME).

http://www.justlanded.com/english/France/France-Guide/Health/Special-health-coverage

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All those living in France are covered by a non-ptofit system. Those visting might get free coverage (depending on income) or buy from a non-profit company.

Their system is ranked #1 in the world in quality (2000 , WHO Report), and costs 43% less than ours (2007) data.

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2007/08/1*1/frances_model_healthcare_system/
(Please remove the * from the above link, the copy and paste)



There is no logical reason why we shouldn't have a similar system.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 07/01/2009
- theMightyT I'm a Fan of theMightyT 171 fans permalink

There is no logic in treating health care like a for-profit business, nor is there logic in turning health care decisions over to a beaurocrat who cares more about his company's bottom line than he does your health issues.

The American system is in.s.a.n.e­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 07/01/2009
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There is profit in human suffering.­......and prisons..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 07/01/2009
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It is called deflect and obfuscate.

NEXT!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 07/01/2009

Is there a medical malpractice industry in France?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 PM on 07/01/2009
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Who is the eye candy on the Rachel Maddow show? shaZAMMMMM­M!!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 07/01/2009
- iceage7 I'm a Fan of iceage7 131 fans permalink

How come no one ever asks obama why congress takes bribes to deny its own citizens health care. WHy why why!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 PM on 07/01/2009
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Why should Obama ask this. Why don't you ask?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 07/01/2009
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Fellow progressives, a liar and his lies are always revealed.

Why?

Because truth is an opera, with words AND MUSIC, lies are just words, and they never hit the inner cord of agreement our souls signed on to before time began.

ruth is the thread upon which we find our way back home.

There is no music in the play conservatives put on, no laughter, no tears of recognition, no love, no compassion.

Many of us are hearing the voice to truth now.

I am glad you are among us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 PM on 07/01/2009
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No one has the right or ability to decide whether someone is or is not a true liberal. Liberals are diverse. Our opinions wide. There is no grid or profile that encompasses all Dems.

Trying to judge people and castigate people based on some cr@zyass profile is reminiscent of a GOPer.

I am not aware of a single Dem that does the "you are either with us or against us" BS. The GOP did this for the war and misty is doing this on Huffpo. I think it is shameful.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 PM on 07/01/2009
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Misty's profile clearly states the user is employing advised tactics, and the psychological aspect of what is being identified as regular or normal is indeed alarming.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 07/01/2009
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Public option ruse and sham:

From Winograd's post;

"Asked if the administration's program will be drafted specifically to prevent it from evolving into a single-payer plan, Sebelius says, "I think that's very much the case and again if you want anybody to convince people of that, talk to the single-payer proponents who are furious that the single-payer idea is not part of the discussion­."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 07/01/2009
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You are conflating two different things.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 07/01/2009
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Thanks but that's redundant

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 07/01/2009
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The republicans are against the so called DEATH Tax but are 100% Behind the SICK Tax that will take evething you have worked for your whole life and give it to some corporation. Then they will deny your insurance claim and let you die. Those are the ones that are truly SICK.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 PM on 07/01/2009
- Lorianne I'm a Fan of Lorianne 60 fans permalink
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Forget Republicans.
Democrats can pass any bill they want.
What are they waiting for?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 07/01/2009
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Repulicans could have 8 years ago why didn't they?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 07/01/2009
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Oops! I didn't think the left would like that topic.

Sorry.

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The left and the right have been waiting for a responsible C in C to refocus attention to Afghanistan for years, Cat.

Finally, some strategy and tactics that make sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 PM on 07/01/2009
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No one wants to support O's plan in Afghanistan?

I am on it!

No one else?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 07/01/2009
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Me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 PM on 07/01/2009
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He won the election with that in his platform. He was very specific about what he intended to do during the campaign. Guess what ?

He won the election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 PM on 07/01/2009
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I have always supported Afghan plan. Iraq is the one I have a problem with

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 07/01/2009
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Me too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 07/01/2009
- NWRICK I'm a Fan of NWRICK 272 fans permalink
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Yep! Me too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 PM on 07/01/2009
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Same here. You are a fan and that is why. You are smart and honest.

Cheers!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 07/01/2009
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Well at least He got The Pakistanis to start fighting the real Bad Guys.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 07/01/2009
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I absolutely support his plan in Afghanistan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 07/01/2009
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I'm waiting for McCain to tell us how to get OBL still.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 07/01/2009
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Yeah, McCain did say he knew exactly where OBL was, didn't he.

Poor McCain he was crazy all along, willing to say anything. I guess that has not changed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 07/01/2009
- Lorianne I'm a Fan of Lorianne 60 fans permalink
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Wal-Mart Supports [Obama] Health Plan That Will Destroy Small Businesses
http://www.businessinsider.com/wal-mart-supports-health-plan-that-will-destroy-small-businesses-2009-6

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 07/01/2009
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That's not the Public Option. That's another issue. You know the difference, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 PM on 07/01/2009
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I doubt it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 PM on 07/01/2009
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