ABC News Reporter Tweets That Iranian Detainees Are Being Waterboarded [UPDATED]

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First Posted: 07- 2-09 05:43 PM   |   Updated: 07- 4-09 02:46 PM

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UPDATE: Days after writing this, it's hardly surprising to wake up and find that the New York Times has suddenly found a use for the word "torture," when previously, "enhanced interrogation techniques were the norm. Via Glenn Greenwald:

Time for a letter to Clark Hoyt, New York Times public editor!

Mr. Hoyt--


I wonder if you'd be good enough to explain something to me. Mere months ago, you said:

"Exactly what constitutes torture continues to be a matter of debate and hasn't been resolved by a court. This president and this attorney general say waterboarding is torture, but the previous president and attorney general said it is not. On what basis should a newspaper render its own verdict, short of charges being filed or a legal judgment rendered?" Jehl argued for precision and caution. I agree. "

Yet, today, you have a piece by Michael Slackman, summarized on your site as follows: "The Iranian government has made it a practice to publicize confessions from political prisoners, often subject to sleep deprivation, solitary confinement and torture, rights groups say." The article somehow manages to avoid classifying these techniques with the commonplace and widely accepted term "enhanced interrogation techniques."

According to recent precedents, established by the United States, a government has the leeway to subject people to "intense questioning" as a part of a response to their national security interests. I wonder if you could explain how the word "torture" came to be used in this instance. Has a "legal judgement" been rendered that I've not heard of? Under what distinction is the word "torture" used here?

I'd very much like an explanation.

We'll see what he says about this!

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[h/t; The Daily Dish] From ABC News' Lara Setrakian, comes this tweet:

Tehrani source close to those detained says some have been beaten heavily and waterboarded with hot water #iranelection

In my younger years, I would simply expect this news to be greeted with universal outrage, knowing that the techniques being described had long been deemed to be well across the Bridge Too Far. Now that I've lived through the Bush administration, however, I am forced to contemplate the possibility that Iran is merely taking legitimate steps to obtain critical information in their nations' vital national security interests. One mustn't preclude the possibility that many of those being waterboarded are privy to information about "time bombs" that may, at this moment, be "ticking."

The whole matter could be investigated, I suppose, but I'm also forced to consider that once Iran is through this rough patch, it would be better if everyone involved just looked forward, not backward.

Anyway, I guess everyone's really playing follow-the-leader on this nation's innovations in the area of what our press calls "enhanced interrogation techniques." Pop champagne.

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UPDATE: Days after writing this, it's hardly surprising to wake up and find that the New York Times has suddenly found a use for the word "torture," when previously, "enhanced interrogation techniques...
UPDATE: Days after writing this, it's hardly surprising to wake up and find that the New York Times has suddenly found a use for the word "torture," when previously, "enhanced interrogation techniques...
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- Coinyer101 I'm a Fan of Coinyer101 650 fans permalink
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bush/cheeney did it, and got away with it, so, it's ok now.......­,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 07/02/2009
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The reason it is NOT ok to sweep this under the rug.

It's the same as sanctioning it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 07/02/2009
- LMT I'm a Fan of LMT 13 fans permalink
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Someone PLEASE ask Cheney his opinion of this situation. His answer is gonna be priceless, no doubt!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 07/02/2009
- SueInCA I'm a Fan of SueInCA 279 fans permalink
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Oh sweet jebus yes. I can just see him and little lynnie now.......­..........­........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 07/02/2009
- Khirad I'm a Fan of Khirad 276 fans permalink
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As an American I know I have no high horse to ride on. No moral ground on which to stand after Bush. A lot of IRI apologists still think they do after 30 years of barbarity -- barbarity they somehow think is justified in the name of our imperialism. Huh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 07/02/2009
- jeun28 I'm a Fan of jeun28 19 fans permalink

Its not torture, the iranian government is trying to get valuable information to save their nation... right? Same standard with America.

When I tell folks we are the only one's who believe the illusion that America is the best of the best, that illusion is gone for the rest of the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 07/02/2009
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chanee has been hired...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 07/02/2009
- jsgaetano I'm a Fan of jsgaetano 204 fans permalink
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We need to round up every conservative in America, send them to GTMO, and waterboard them to see what they know about this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 07/02/2009
- Deparis I'm a Fan of Deparis 25 fans permalink

All this Iran bashing in western media is sounding more and more like a sabotage to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 07/02/2009
- Khirad I'm a Fan of Khirad 276 fans permalink
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De.ath to America?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 07/02/2009
- gcallaghan I'm a Fan of gcallaghan 52 fans permalink
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It wasn't all that long ago when the US could have led the world in denouncing waterboarding. UU's legacy is a storm cloud that'll never leave us,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 PM on 07/02/2009
- rizvisa1 I'm a Fan of rizvisa1 5 fans permalink

That's Ok. It is not torture. Just ask any one on Fox (may be not Sheppard). or Dick Chenney or Bush etc. Also our constitutional expert president is telling us look forward not backward, lets extend same courtesy to them. We just keep on looking forward.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 07/02/2009
- Digeeedad I'm a Fan of Digeeedad 61 fans permalink

Hannityy would be a perfect person to comment here.... he's probably taken to waterboarding his own kids to find out who took all the cookies from the cookie jar!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 07/02/2009
- igorz I'm a Fan of igorz 25 fans permalink

Guess they, too, are listening to Prof. Yoo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 07/02/2009
- rigmoten I'm a Fan of rigmoten 4 fans permalink

Conservador are you Suggesting we invade another country?

War and tax cuts is not a way to build your economy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 PM on 07/02/2009
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No, and I'm not sure where you get that from my comments.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 PM on 07/02/2009
- Agent420 I'm a Fan of Agent420 45 fans permalink
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The Roman Empire was brought down by expensive foreign wars. Sound familiar?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 07/02/2009
- ManuOB1 I'm a Fan of ManuOB1 4 fans permalink
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All empires fall for the same two reasons: overextended military campaigns and crumbling infrastructure. I guess it's our turn.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 07/02/2009
- rigmoten I'm a Fan of rigmoten 4 fans permalink

Will neocons start defending the Iranian government now?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 07/02/2009
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Look up "irony" in the dictionary, this will be the definition.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 07/02/2009
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Well, at least America is exporting something.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 PM on 07/02/2009
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to argentina.­..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 07/02/2009
- LMT I'm a Fan of LMT 13 fans permalink
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...not soon enough!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 07/02/2009
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1043 fans permalink
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Conservado­r-Rebelde: What Japanese did was far worse, they would stuff uncooked rice down people's throats, then pump water into their stomach... The rice would absorb the water and their stomach would expIode.
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You are not very well informed.

http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/us_law/etn/dic/exec-sum.asp

Republicans tortured people to de.ath too... How is one method of torture "better" than another when de.ath is the end result?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 07/02/2009
- Grunty1 I'm a Fan of Grunty1 216 fans permalink

[How is one method of t0rture "better"]

Because HIS party committed one of them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 07/02/2009
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I didn't vote for John McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 PM on 07/02/2009
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Any of those "cases" due to waterboarding, as this is what the article is about? That is what I'm defending, showing that Japanese did far worse, yet people want to put them in the same boat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 PM on 07/02/2009
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But they were prosecuted specifically for this:

"A towel was fixed under the chin and down over the face. Then many buckets of water were poured into the towel so that the water gradually reached the mouth and rising further eventually also the nostrils, which resulted in his becoming unconscious and collapsing like a person drowned. This procedure was sometimes repeated 5-6 times in succession­."

That was the court testimony of a US soldier after WWII

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 PM on 07/02/2009
- MikeRdg I'm a Fan of MikeRdg 16 fans permalink
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Mitt likes Waterboarding and torture, AND went to BYU

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 07/02/2009
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