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RANDOLPH E. SCHMID | July 2, 2009 02:14 PM EST | AP

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WASHINGTON — Like the wool sweater that emerges from the dryer a size too small, global warming seems to be shrinking sheep.

On average, wild Soay sheep on Scotland's island Hirta are 5 percent smaller today than they were in 1985, according to a team of researchers led by Tim Coulson of Imperial College London.

"The decrease in body size was due to a reduction in growth rates caused, in part, by the changing climate," Coulson said in an interview via e-mail.

Evolution favors the development of large sheep, which can more easily survive harsh winters, Coulson explained. So the researchers became curious about the overall decline in size of the animals on Hirta.

They discovered that as the climate has grown milder, small lambs that would not have survived previous winters were now living to grow up and reproduce.

Since size is inherited, the survival and reproduction of these smaller animals lowered the average size of the herd.

In addition, Coulson noted, there is what he termed the "young mum effect," with the younger mothers physically unable to produce large offspring.

The find adds to the understanding of how change occurs in many types of animals, he said, including birds, fish and mammals.

It shows how evolution and ecology each play a role in change, Coulson said: "And that, for our wild sheep at least, climate change is having a detectable effect on body size _ a trait that is partly determined by genes _ and that this compliments previous research showing how climate change can influence population size."

"This study addresses one of the major goals of population biology, namely to untangle the ways in which evolutionary and environmental changes influence a species' traits," said Andrew Sugden, deputy and international managing editor at Science, which published the report.

The research was supported by Britain's Natural Environment Research Council.

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WASHINGTON — Like the wool sweater that emerges from the dryer a size too small, global warming seems to be shrinking sheep. On average, wild Soay sheep on Scotland's island Hirta are 5 percent...
WASHINGTON — Like the wool sweater that emerges from the dryer a size too small, global warming seems to be shrinking sheep. On average, wild Soay sheep on Scotland's island Hirta are 5 percent...
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- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 150 fans permalink

"Sea level is rising at an accelerating rate of 3 mm/year, Arctic sea ice cover is shrinking and high latitude areas are warming rapidly. Extreme weather events cause loss of life and enormous burdens on the insurance industry. Globally, 8 of the 10 warmest years since 1860, when instrumental records began, were in the past decade."

http://www.argo.ucsd.edu/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 AM on 07/08/2009
- Richard2 I'm a Fan of Richard2 17 fans permalink

2008, the coldest year of the 21st Century. Also, the eighth warmest year of the 21st Century!

Now we have 2009, the year without a summer in New England.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 PM on 07/09/2009
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 150 fans permalink

Man, you mean 2008 was the coldest of the century and only eight years into the new century! It is the kind of nonsense information deniers live for.

Meanwhile, back in reality land...

"Calendar year 2008 was the coolest year since 2000, according to the Goddard Institute for Space Studies analysis of surface air temperature measurements. In our analysis, 2008 is the ninth warmest year in the period of instrumental measurements, which extends back to 1880. The ten warmest years all occur within the 12-year period 1997-2008.­"

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2008/

I bet Australia with its raging wildfires wishes it could have had a year without a summer! Keep going with the propaganda Richard. It is all the right can do with competency!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 AM on 07/10/2009
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 150 fans permalink

One notices how Richard always changes the subject when he is beaten. Next he will repeat how the Met office can not predict temperatures ten years in advance or how sea temperatures have stalled. I guess i would repeat the same misstatements if that was all i had.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 AM on 07/10/2009
- Richard2 I'm a Fan of Richard2 17 fans permalink

Owners of domesticated animals influence their size and physical characteristics by practicing "animal husbandry.­" Owners decide which animals can reproduce. In this case, the owners decided to allow the smaller sheep to reproduce along with the larger sheep, which reduced the average size of the flock.

If the owners had decided that only the largest sheep could reproduce, the flock would have become larger, on average, despite the local weather, or climate conditions.

It seems a long stretch to believe that global warming caused the flock of sheep to become smaller. This conclusion is almost as shaky as the conclusion that Global Warming caused Tiger Woods to not win the U.S. Open.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 PM on 07/07/2009
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 150 fans permalink

Richard, why the need to spin every climate change article you read here? Are we children and need you to interpret them for us?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 AM on 07/08/2009
- Richard2 I'm a Fan of Richard2 17 fans permalink

The title of this article implies that Global Warming shrinks sheep! How is that for spinning a story? Since the earth hasn't warmed since 1998, how can anything recent be blamed on Global Warming?

Global Warming disappears, can't shrink sheep. Film at 11.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 PM on 07/09/2009
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 150 fans permalink

Richard, if you reread the article, perhaps you can answer your own questions. Otherwise, you can keep spinning and dumbing down each article as if you are fooling someone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 07/10/2009
- RomeoMD25 I'm a Fan of RomeoMD25 51 fans permalink

less than 2/1,000 of all CO2 is produced by human activity. So even if we wiped out every car,
power plant, jet liner, and human being from the face of the earth, there would be no noticeable effect on global CO2 levels.

The most important greenhouse gas by far is water vapor, which evaporates from oceans, lakes and rivers.
Water vapor accounts for up to 90% of the earth's greenhouse effect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 PM on 07/06/2009
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 150 fans permalink

Then why has co2 content in the atmosphere increased from roughly 200 ppm before the Industrial Revolution to 350 ppm today? And please do not point to any lists of climate change deniers in your answer!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 AM on 07/07/2009

Hmmm...tem­perature down 1 degree since the inconvenient lie came out.....we­ll, I thought gore the bore said we'd all be dead and burnt to a crisp now?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 07/06/2009
- RomeoMD25 I'm a Fan of RomeoMD25 51 fans permalink

Historical and climatological facts do not support the threat of Global Warming.
During the last "Climatic Optimum", from 700 to 1200 AD, the planet was much warmer
than it is now. This led to a population explosion in Scandinavia (which gave rise to the Viking Age)

Later, during the "Little Ice Age" of 1400 to 1800, Norse settlements in Greenland were wiped out
and Iceland nearly followed.

In the Seventies, Environmentalists were trying to convince us that atmospheric pollution was
going to bring about a new Ice Age, with glaciers in Chicago.

Now, Al Gore is trying to baffle us with his junk science. Your SUV is going to make
300 degree temperatures in Arizona. File Al Gore's "Global Warming" convenient lies

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 07/04/2009
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 150 fans permalink

The Midieval ice age and warm period were regional phenonmena scientists believe. During the warm period, the co2 content of the atmosphere was much higher than today. In the 70's, only Time magazine talked of a coming Ice Age and not scientists. Time magazine is not a scientific journal in case you did not know. So much misinformation, so little time!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 07/04/2009

"... During the warm period, the co2 content of the atmosphere was much higher than today..."

If this is true, then please remind me, just what is it that folks are so alarmed about?

Happy Independence Day!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 07/04/2009
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 150 fans permalink

I may have to correct myself the medieval warm period was most likely a regional phenonmen and not global therefore co2 levels may not have been higher. I'll have to look it up. Actually, the temperatures we are seeing today are much higher, so likely co2 content was lower then.

"The Medieval Warm Period was a time of warm weather around AD 800-1300 during the European Medieval period. Initial research on the MWP and the following Little Ice Age (LIA) was largely done in Europe, where the phenomenon was most obvious and clearly documented. It was initially believed that the temperature changes were global.[2] However, this view has been questioned; the 2001 IPCC report summarises this research, saying "…current evidence does not support globally synchronous periods of anomalous cold or warmth over this time frame, and the conventional terms of 'Little Ice Age' and 'Medieval Warm Period' appear to have limited utility in describing trends in hemispheric or global mean temperature changes in past centuries"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Warm_Period

Unlike many denialists here, i am not an expert on everything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 AM on 07/05/2009

The question of whether the Medieval Warm Period was a global phenomenon appears controversial to say the least.

The 1996 IPCC report had a diagram which clearly showed the MWP as a global event. Then, in the 2001 report, the IPCC introduced the infamous Mann "Hockey Stick" graph, which erased the MWP and the Little Ice Age, and which has since been roundly discredited and thoroughly debunked (e.g. Wegman, et. al.). In the 2007 report, the IPCC again removed the Hockey Stick without explanation.

There is a great deal of evidence that the MWP was indeed a global event. Stalagmites from caves in South Africa show a warming during 1000-1300. China was 2-3 degrees C warmer than now (from pollen studies and written records). Evidence of warming has been measured in ocean floor sediments from the North and South Atlantic, Pacific, and Indian oceans. There's much more - read about it if you're interested, or deny it if you are not.

This still leaves the question about CO2 during the MWP unanswered. Did it come from medieval SUV's? Or did something else warm the Earth?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 PM on 07/05/2009
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 150 fans permalink

According to NOAA...

"Norse seafaring and colonization around the North Atlantic at the end of the 9th century indicated that regional North Atlantic climate was warmer during medieval times than during the cooler "Little Ice Age" of the 15th - 19th centuries. As paleoclimatic records have become more numerous, it has become apparent that "Medieval Warm Period" or "Medieval Optimum" temperatures were warmer over the Northern Hemisphere than during the subsequent "Little Ice Age", and also comparable to temperatures during the early 20th century. The regional patterns and the magnitude of this warmth remain an area of active research because the data become sparse going back in time prior to the last four centuries.­"

"In summary, it appears that the late 20th and early 21st centuries are likely the warmest period the Earth has seen in at least 1200 years."

http://www.ask.com/bar?q=medieval+warm+period&page=1&qsrc=0&ab=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ncdc.noaa.gov%2Fpaleo%2Fglobalwarming%2Fmedieval.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 07/05/2009

"... The regional patterns and the magnitude of this warmth remain an area of active research because the data become sparse going back in time prior to the last four centuries.­.."

Carefully worded, but in effect NOAA is saying they just don't know. I note that they confirm the warming in the northern hemisphere, but stop short of conclusively denying any warming in the southern hemisphere.

Given that NOAA has taken an advocacy position in agreement with the general theory of man-made global warming, it's interesting that their statement on the MWP isn't stronger, even though it is obvious why they might want to wish away the MWP.

I also note that the NOAA page prominently still shows the discredited Mann Hockey Stick graph.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 07/05/2009
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 150 fans permalink

The intellectual head of the climate change deniers movement, Sarah Palin, has resigned from office. I wonder where they will get their inspiration from now!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 AM on 07/04/2009
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Very funny...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si-htSSHxsE

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 07/03/2009

Its a "SUN CYCLE" we are in a 1,400 year warming cycle.
Polar Bears and penguins and sheep all survived the warming and cooling cycles.

Mars is Melting
Mars is Melting. The south polar ice cap of Mars is receding, revealing frosty mountains, rifts ... talk about the martian polar caps "melting" or "vaporizing. science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/07aug_southpole.htmhtm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 AM on 07/03/2009
- AntiClast I'm a Fan of AntiClast 5 fans permalink

Your reference talks about shrinking south pole ice cap due to the springtime on the southern hemisphere of Mars.
Mars year is 687 days.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 07/03/2009
- Richard2 I'm a Fan of Richard2 17 fans permalink

Goood News. Global Warming improves lamb production, increases supply of food, reduces food prices!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 AM on 07/03/2009
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 150 fans permalink

Yes, well if you call having smaller lambs increasing their production. But then that is an example of conservative logic! Actually, climate change will raise food costs, especially because there will be less water available to farmers.

"Global warming could sock Illinois right in the Corn Belt—to the tune of $243 million a year, a national environmental group estimated in a report released Thursday."

"The Environment America study, based on government and university data, projects rising temperatures will reduce yields of the nation's biggest crop by 3 percent in the Midwest and the South, compared to projected yields without further global warming."

"According to the report, Iowa would be hit hardest, losing $259 million a year in corn revenues."

"The nation overall would lose about $1.4 billion in annual corn revenue, the group said."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-global-warm-corn_friapr10,0,3489947.story?track=rss

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 AM on 07/04/2009
- Richard2 I'm a Fan of Richard2 17 fans permalink

This article about sheep actually throws light on an observation made by many climate realists.

Warm weather has been good for humans and human civilizations. Cold weather has been bad.

The Darwinian idea of "survival of the fittest" applies both to sheep and to people. At the margin, cold weather kills vulnerable young sheep and vulnerable people. Warm weather allows more young sheep to survive, and more people to survive.

Our great civilizations have expanded during warm periods in history, and declined during cold periods.

Americans have been fortunate to have expericenced relatively warm weather the past 60 years. However, digging into the historical data, humans have faced tougher times in the recent past. Whether it was Washington crossing the Delaware in winter, a famous event, or 100-year storms in Southern California during the 1920s and 1940s, bad weather events have challenged humans in historical times. It is unfortunate that the memory of these events is so quickly lost.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 07/04/2009
- MGhamma I'm a Fan of MGhamma 15 fans permalink

Having given up on trying to argue the science, Richard2 resorts to attempts at humor. No good at that either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 07/05/2009
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 150 fans permalink

Richard sticks with that lie about temperatures declining the last ten years. The only thing declining is the deniers grasp of reality, MG.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 07/05/2009
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So, basically: more sheep are surviving and bringing down the average size meaning that "Global Warming" does not shrink sheep. Great article.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 AM on 07/03/2009
- RomeoMD25 I'm a Fan of RomeoMD25 51 fans permalink

most of the people who shout about climate change have not read one article about climate change, not read one book about climate change, if you asked them to explain how they believe there’s a connection between CO2 emission and the effects which they claim there’s going to be, if you ask them to explain the thought process or the modelling that is required and the assumptions behind that and how tenuous all the connections are, they wouldn’t have a clue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 AM on 07/03/2009
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 150 fans permalink

I hope you are not a MD. Well, I know you are not!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 AM on 07/03/2009
- RomeoMD25 I'm a Fan of RomeoMD25 51 fans permalink

Enron executives believed that a cap-and-trade program would put them in a position to dominate the U.S. energy market. Electric utilities, required to reduce emissions of carbon dioxide, would be forced to switch from coal to natural gas as the only practical alternative to electricity production. As a leading trader of natural gas, Enron would be the recipient of a huge financial windfall.(­iam)not in USA
i advise you to open a science book try to learn something new

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 07/05/2009
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 150 fans permalink

You do realize Enron went broke years ago and many of their executives went to jail. Read a newspaper.

But actually your initial statement was correct that many people do not have a clue about science. Conservatives have been successful at dumbing down the science curriculum in schools, as their fights against Darwin suggests. Because so few know so little about science the denialists here can post a good amount of misinformation, as they do daily.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 AM on 07/06/2009
- AntiClast I'm a Fan of AntiClast 5 fans permalink

But all of the climate scientists who do real research can explain until your eyes glaze over (for you likely 1 second). See http: realclimate.org/g/ .
or read the on-line explanations of Science labs,
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/GlobalWarming/global_warming_update2.php

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 07/03/2009
- RomeoMD25 I'm a Fan of RomeoMD25 51 fans permalink

If CO2 were a pollutant, then why would our US submarines allow an environmental concentration of this
very same gas in the neighborhood of 8,000 ppm? It is unconscionable that
our government is demanding that we try to regulate the concentration of this gas in the atmosphere,
knowing full well that concentrations more than 20 times that amount produce absolutely no ill effects on American sailors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 07/05/2009
- RomeoMD25 I'm a Fan of RomeoMD25 51 fans permalink

Man-made carbon dioxide is only 0.117 percent of total carbon dioxide in the air and contributes only 0.0047 percent carbon dioxide to the atmosphere.
The average person has been misled and is confused about what the current Global Warming debate is about, greenhouse gases. None of which has anything to do
with air pollution. People are confusing Smog, Carbon Monoxide (CO) and the pollutants in
car exhaust with the life supporting, essential trace gas in our atmosphere, Carbon Dioxide (CO2)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 07/05/2009
- RomeoMD25 I'm a Fan of RomeoMD25 51 fans permalink

Global warming, just like the concept of evolution, is not a scientific theory as such,
it is a cult, or to put it more tactfully, a religion. It is a belief system that first
takes a big picture stance that is non-negotiable, and then requires a plethora of supporters,
adherents and believers to "push" the message, ridiculing and
sidelining those who dissent. Rhetoric rather than facts are common in the promulgation of the cult.

i believed global warming is real until last year..
but i know for a fact this world class scam,you must be blind in order not to see it..

Exxon funded and wrote last Climate Bill..(Typ­e Google:Exxon goes green 2009)and if you know this and still believe in global warming i feel sorry for you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 AM on 07/03/2009
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 150 fans permalink

You believed in global warming until last year, and then converted to the Fox news anti-science cult. By the way, the studies haven't changed!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 AM on 07/03/2009
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Yeah, they've been suppressed!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 AM on 07/03/2009
- dennisrs I'm a Fan of dennisrs 32 fans permalink
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RomeoMD25--What was it that changed you mind?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 AM on 07/04/2009
- BlackYowe I'm a Fan of BlackYowe 58 fans permalink
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By the way the photo used with this piece is of goats in a arid climate not sheep on a North Atlantic island! I have many photos I took in 2007 on Hirta of Soay Sheep and would be delighted to let HuffPost use one if they want to have the right animal in the photo!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 PM on 07/02/2009
- fumes I'm a Fan of fumes 82 fans permalink
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zing!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 PM on 07/02/2009
- fumes I'm a Fan of fumes 82 fans permalink
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my two cats, ebb and flo, don't furr-up for the winters either like they used to..

and if that's not enough proof for you deniers i don't know what is lol.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 07/02/2009
- Nooooorm I'm a Fan of Nooooorm 3 fans permalink

Playing golf without a sweater yet fumes?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 PM on 07/02/2009
- fumes I'm a Fan of fumes 82 fans permalink
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cheers nooooorm! say nooooorm.. have you explained cliff's buffalo theory to rp?

more beer = less weak brain cells..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 PM on 07/02/2009
- dennisrs I'm a Fan of dennisrs 32 fans permalink
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Ha ha that's a good one. All the proof I need.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 07/04/2009
- dennisrs I'm a Fan of dennisrs 32 fans permalink
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too much elicit fumes -Fumes!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 07/04/2009
- BlackYowe I'm a Fan of BlackYowe 58 fans permalink
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Although I think global warming is real I think this theory is bunk. I have been to Hirta and there is a British Military base there and many other factors that could lead to problems with the sheep. There is always a human presence and these sheep are semi-domestic dating to Viking times. Not only that is they over graze the island and then they die back because of it when the cold weather sets in each winter season. I was told by a sheep researcher there they have up to a 70% die back of the population every winter which shows clearly the gene pool is shrinking. If you raise sheep as I do you know inbreeding is one the fastest ways to shrink a sheep. I have lost size in my sheep due to lack of genetic variation from time to time because I keep rare breeds and cannot always find new genetic material to bring into my flock. I think this article is bad science.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 07/02/2009
- vippy I'm a Fan of vippy 70 fans permalink

So let us tax the people for that too!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 07/02/2009
- BlackYowe I'm a Fan of BlackYowe 58 fans permalink
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For bad science?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 07/02/2009
- dennisrs I'm a Fan of dennisrs 32 fans permalink
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It is called Global Climate Change now not Global Warming BalckYowe, get with the program.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 AM on 07/04/2009
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