Obama Settlement Stance Draws Fire From All Directions

digg Share this on Facebook Huffpost - Obama Settlement Stance Draws Fire From All Directions stumble reddit del.ico.us RSS

Huffington Post
First Posted: 07- 2-09 10:43 AM   |   Updated: 08- 2-09 05:12 AM

What's Your Reaction?
Mideast Israel Palestinians

Though President Obama is reported to be taking an unprecedentedly harder line on Israel's settlement activities, expressed through statements by ranking officials in his administration, including Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Vice President Joe Biden, his continued failure to please everyone indicates the intractability of the issue. Steven J. Rosen, director of the Washington Project at the Middle East Forum, believes that the current administration's treatment of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is too heavy-handed. Writing on Foreign Policy's website, Rosen criticizes Obama for what he considers bad diplomacy and the poor treatment of America's closest ally:

It was an unusual way to welcome the new leader of a close friend of the United States. Why did the Obama team veer so sharply off the normal course? Diplomacy toward an ally normally begins with building relations of trust on areas of agreement, and only later engaging discreetly on issues where there are sharp differences. Why instead did the administration team roll out a campaign of diktats, beginning May 28 in front of cameras at a press conference with the Egyptian foreign minister, virtually nailing a decree to Netanyahu's door announcing that President Obama "wants to see a stop to settlements -- not some settlements, not outposts, not natural-growth exceptions," as Secretary of State Hillary Clinton put it. Why so dismissively brush aside understandings crafted by the George W. Bush's administration, understandings that had achieved a significant reduction of settlement construction albeit not a total freeze? Why would an unnamed source in the administration boast to the Washington Post on June 30, "We have not changed our position at all, nor has the president authorized any negotiating room"?

However, writing in the Wall Street Journal Thursday, vocal Israel advocate and Harvard lawyer Alan Dershowitz notes the distinction between pro-Israel and pro-Netanyahu. He concludes that Obama's strong anti-settlement stance is actually quite aligned with the views of most Israelis and Israel supporters, writing:

A majority of American-Jewish supporters of Israel, as well as Israelis, do not favor settlement expansion. Thus the Obama position on settlement expansion, whether one agrees with it or not, is not at all inconsistent with support for Israel. It may be a different position from that of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, but it is not a difference that should matter to most Jewish voters who support both Mr. Obama and Israel.

However, Dershowitz is critical of the administration's elevation of the settlement issue to such a high diplomatic priority, rivaling that of a nuclear Iran:

The Obama administration consistently says that Iran should not be allowed to develop nuclear weapons. But prior to the current unrest in the Islamic Republic, White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel frightened many supporters of Israel in May by appearing to link American efforts to stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons to Israeli actions with regard to the settlements.

And yet, Obama's settlement stance has critics on the other side of the divide as well. New American fellow Flynt Leverett, also writing for Foreign Policy's website, doesn't think Obama is being strict enough because he has not yet declared settlement activity to be illegal, writing:

By shrinking from declaring Israeli settlement activity illegal, Obama has guaranteed that, in substance, his Middle East policy cannot depart significantly from that of George W. Bush. Obama's insipidly favorable response to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's conditional "acceptance" of the two-state formula underscores an unfortunate continuity in America's Middle East policy. In the end, Obama's Middle East policy is rooted in his predecessor's profoundly flawed 2003 road map for a two-state solution and the feckless process that Bush's secretary of state, Condoleeza Rice launched at Annapolis in 2007. Worse, in contrast to other policy mistakes made early in his presidential tenure, Obama will be hard put to reverse the damage done by his lack of clarity and courage on the settlements issue by coming back at a later date and arguing that Israeli settlements in occupied territory are, in fact, illegal.

The issue will no doubt continue to be a diplomatic flash point, with critics from every angle. Either way, the administration is moving forward to find some kind of compromise, with Israel-Palestine envoy George Mitchell meeting Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak in New York this week.




Get HuffPost World On Facebook and Twitter!

Though President Obama is reported to be taking an unprecedentedly harder line on Israel's settlement activities, expressed through statements by ranking officials in his administration, including Sec...
Though President Obama is reported to be taking an unprecedentedly harder line on Israel's settlement activities, expressed through statements by ranking officials in his administration, including Sec...
Loading...
 
Report Corrections
 
Comments
105
Pending Comments
0
iPhone App Promo

Want to reply to a comment? Hint: Click "Reply" at the bottom of the comment; after being approved your comment will appear directly underneath the comment you replied to

View Comments:
Page: 1 2 Next › Last » (2 pages total)
- murphy80 I'm a Fan of murphy80 9 fans permalink

awaken, the world has changed. compromise is not in the cards.

unless you can rein in Iran

so play nice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 07/07/2009
- larce1948 I'm a Fan of larce1948 10 fans permalink

Not a word on MSM about imprisonment of Cynthi McKinney by Israel. C-Span moderator doing back flips to avoid the questions posed by callers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 07/05/2009
- MarcusT I'm a Fan of MarcusT 51 fans permalink
photo

"...but any agreement with the Palestinian people must preserve Israel's identity as a Jewish state with secure, recognized, defensible borders. And Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided."

Barak Obama, June 4, 2008. Addressing the AIPAC conference 12 hours after securing his party's nomination.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 AM on 07/05/2009
- greatscot I'm a Fan of greatscot 31 fans permalink

Don't know how many ways there is to say this. GET THE MONEY OUT OF AMERICAN POLITICS and we'll solve the Israeli influence problem in our political life. Americans need to grasp the fact that our Congress is bought & paid for by the highest bidder. It's no accident that billions go to Israel every year, because HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of that same money comes back to Congress hacks, every year. Some more of OUR tax money is re-distributed by Israel to AIPAC and other groups to TARGET anyone running for office who doesn't toe Israel's line, (and promote Jewish candidates for national office). They have to defeat only a few candidates to make their point, and the rest of the cowards fall in line.

Corporate money is the reason we don't have a national health-care system in the U.S. - different side of the same coin! Why can't we get usury laws for credit card companies? You guessed it! Same thing again. Why can't we get decent energy or climate regulations? Yup, bribe money to Congress, again!

We need campaign financing laws that limit to several hundred dollars a year the amount that can be given by any one registered voter to any political candidate (no money from organisations or corporations), and no donations from anyone outside the electoral district!.

Israel is basically a Mafia set up to game the United States, but it's OUR system they're gaming. We need to change our system!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 07/04/2009
- CigarGod I'm a Fan of CigarGod 100 fans permalink
photo

Fav'd.
Have a cigar.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 07/05/2009

JFK

"Let us never negotiate out of fear. But let us never fear to negotiate." "Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind." "Our most basic common link is that we all inhabit this planet. We all breathe the same air. We all cherish our children's future. And we are all mortal." All quotes by JFK - given the precarious world we live in, all strike home given the worldwide tensions

George Washington---

"A passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification." ~George Washington Farewell Address

"The nation which indulges toward another habitual hatred or habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interests." ~ George Washington

I want to see the US continue to be an 'honest broker' in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
I saw the quotes used on another thread. I thought they would fit nicely on this one!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 07/04/2009
photo

We should write to the Prez and urge him to maintain his tough stance on this ILLEGAL and IMMORAL activity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 07/03/2009
- mrh3 I'm a Fan of mrh3 36 fans permalink

Is Israel a lawless third world democracy? They have no constitution, no declared boarders, the military routinely breaks the laws, and right wing religious groups bully their politicians. It's like the Bush administration on steroids.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 AM on 07/03/2009
- mrh3 I'm a Fan of mrh3 36 fans permalink

P.S. Exhibit A


Share |

Last update - 14:19 03/07/2009


Building and weeping

By Shlomy Zachary

Tags: B'Tselem, Israel News



Now, it's official: Palestinian property in the West Bank no longer enjoys constitutional protection. This is what could be gleaned from Defense Minister Ehud Barak's decision, made casually but without any legal basis, that houses in the settlement of Ofra, which were built on stolen, private Palestinian land, in violation of both international and local law, will be permitted to remain in place. Barak's stand was expressed in a statement he made in response to a High Court petition filed by Palestinians, aided by the Israeli human-rights organizations Yesh Din and B'Tselem, requesting the enforcement of work-termination and demolition orders that had been issued against such recently erected structures.

The Defense Ministry acknowledged that the building that was the subject of the petition is indeed illegal. So, we can only conclude that Barak, a self-described guardian of the rule of law, who recently declared that "illegal construction must not be tolerated," is suffering from some manifestation of split personality. As someone supposedly exercised by every illegal tent or trailer in the West Bank, the noises he has been making about his ostensible support for evacuation have been audible all the way to Washington. Yet, when it comes to land theft in broad daylight, Barak's shield of law melts away, and felony receives the government's stamp of approval.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 07/03/2009
photo

B'Tselem is a great organization! Thanks for posting this...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 07/03/2009
- who38 I'm a Fan of who38 57 fans permalink

Barak is the Israeli Rumsfeld.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 07/04/2009
- chiara12 I'm a Fan of chiara12 18 fans permalink
photo

Yes, remind me again how they are our "closest ally"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 07/03/2009
photo

How we choose our allies is revealing of the character of our own foreign policy, is it not?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 07/03/2009
- CigarGod I'm a Fan of CigarGod 100 fans permalink
photo

Yes.
Ranked 37th in the worlds democracies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 PM on 07/03/2009
photo

Yep, that about sums it up correctly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 07/03/2009
photo

Let the settlers stay in the West Bank, establish a state with fixed borders along the Green Line (with some adjustments) and give all the settlers Palestinian citizenship.

20 percent of Israel is Arab; why not allow 20 percent of (future) Palestine to be Jewish?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 AM on 07/03/2009
- GZLives I'm a Fan of GZLives 41 fans permalink

Wouldn't that be nice to give the Israeli settlers Palestinian citizenship ... alas UNLIKE Israelis, the Palestinians want their state without Jews.

Its not about settlements, its not about occupation, its not about the Arab specifically the Muslim Arab incitement against JEWS.

"A poll released this week showed that PA Arabs are reluctant to grant rights to Jews or Christians within areas demanded for a PA state. A survey conducted by the Arab World for Research and Development among 1,200 Arab residents of the W Bank and Gaza found that they did not feel Jerusalem should be shared with Jews and Christians."

Will we now see the same indignation for this overt Arab racism ?
I won't hold my breath.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 07/03/2009
- CigarGod I'm a Fan of CigarGod 100 fans permalink
photo

You expect Arab's to turn on a dime and now love their oppressors?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 07/03/2009
- mrh3 I'm a Fan of mrh3 36 fans permalink

Interesting poll. Haven't seen it. Sounds rational. Zionist Jews with the backing of Zionist Christians colonized their land and created the state of Israel. As part of the process they disenfranchised the Palestinians and eventually drove some seven hundred thousand from their homes. That's why we call them refugees.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 PM on 07/03/2009

To GZLives:
It's not "Arab racism", and there's no need for any "indignation".

Dont know what poll you're referring to but - The PA Arabs as you call them, are as entitled as the rest of us and the Israelis too, to have power and control over & ability to run their own lives, without interference, rules, policy etc. from other people/countries. Especially people who do not like them or think they are inferior and do not have their (the Arabs) best interests in mind when they (the other people) govern the PA Arabs.
That's all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 AM on 07/04/2009
- who38 I'm a Fan of who38 57 fans permalink

Both sides need to learn toleration. However, it can be done.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 AM on 07/04/2009

In a recent poll 70% of Israeli Jews said they would not live next to an Israeli Arab. Nearly 60% said they wanted Israel's Arab citizens to leave the country. Pot, meet kettle.

And maybe you can be the first to answer my question: How many Israeli Arabs are allowed to move into the new settlement in the West Bank and Jerusalem?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 07/04/2009
- Macready I'm a Fan of Macready 58 fans permalink

I am not concerned with israel's reactions . . the settlements and the berlin-style wall are illegal under international law . . . israel has committed more human rights violations than any other country . . . I don't want to see another Operation Cast Lead, nor another invasion of Lebanon . . . I do not want my country supporting a rogue state . . that lies and forments trouble and steals from its neighbours and accepts no responsibilty for its actions . . . israel is no one's ally . . .

the US should cut all funding to israel . . . and there must be trade embargoes and UN sanctions . . . that is the only way israel will begin to talk about peace negotiations . . . israel respeatedly has shown that there is one rule for them . . and another for everyone else . . . this has to stop . . . who are the israeli's anyway . . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 AM on 07/03/2009
- GZLives I'm a Fan of GZLives 41 fans permalink

You don't know what you're talking about.
International law governing what?
Territory in dispute?

Regarding US funding ... another issue you don't seem to understand.
Here's the math to help

Israeli GDP is over 200 billion USD, 2-3 billion of US aid is about 1-1.5% of the GDP, and perhaps 5% of the defense budget (13.3 billion in 2009).

I'm sure you understand almost the entire amount is spent at US defense industries.
How many American workers do you want to see lose their jobs at Raytheon, Boeing, Lockheed ?

Problem with your leftwing kneejerk anti Israel dance is how shortsighted it is.
Cut off Israel and the agreements preventing Israel from developing many weapons they can't develop will kick in. Then they get to sell them to China and all over the world. They get to compete with the US. You don't think they can? You'd be very wrong

Bottom line is Israel doesn't need the aid ... you of course, think they'll collapse without it?
No, sorry, Israel is a European style economy not third world.

What needs to happen is the Arabs have to get over their hatred of Jews, stop inciting their populations, stop the vile anti semitism preached in their mosques and recognize that Israel isn't going anywhere and co existence is better option then endless war to destroy something they will never destory.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 07/03/2009
- CigarGod I'm a Fan of CigarGod 100 fans permalink
photo

You mean Arabs should accept their second class status.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 07/03/2009
- MarcusT I'm a Fan of MarcusT 51 fans permalink
photo

"stop the vile anti semitism "

But aren't Arabs Semites?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 07/04/2009
- who38 I'm a Fan of who38 57 fans permalink

If the loss of American jobs at Raytheon, Boeing, and Lockheed solves this problem; the US needs to go for it. Maybe those companies need to manufacture products that are more conducive to living in peace.

Glad to hear that Israel doesn't need the aid. I will forward that information to my Congresspeople.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 07/04/2009
- greatscot I'm a Fan of greatscot 31 fans permalink

Israel is a small place, mostly stolen from Arabs, living on American handouts. Most of the "Loans" by which Israel "Buys" U.S. weapons are quietly cancelled during the subsequent U.S. Congressional Sessions and NEVER REPAID, and that doesn't make the news. Furthermore, Americans (usually Jews, but also Christian Fundamentalists who want to make sure Jesus re-appears) can deduct charitable donations to Israel, - a massive U.S. Taxpayer subsidy. The free-trade agreement between the U.S. and Israel works only in Israel's interest. Here we have GZLives telling us that if we don't continue our support JUST AS WE HAVE, then Israel well UNDERMINE US and WORK AGAINST US by selling high-tech goodies to CHINA! An international boycott of ALL israeli goods would topple that country within 3 months! A travel ban would lock them into their little hellhole in much the same way as the Plaestinians have been imprisoned for the past 42 years. This is not anti-jewish, - it's goose/gander justice!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:41 PM on 07/04/2009
photo

@frankg3400-on point, very good list on that site, and a very strong point about allegiance to whom.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 AM on 07/03/2009
- S1m0n I'm a Fan of S1m0n 90 fans permalink
photo

Why? Because that's what the American public supports. The USA bankrolls Israel. Without the american subsidy and political protection, the nation of Israel would be in a FAR less comfortable position. That gives the USA the power to call the tune when it's in American intersts to do so. If Israel doesn't like it, it should learn to live without the subsidy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 AM on 07/03/2009

What has Israel done for us, If they are allies why don't they have troops along side of ours?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 07/02/2009
photo

They don't do anything for us--it's a one-way alliance. They do corrupt our Congress though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 07/03/2009
- yankees I'm a Fan of yankees 17 fans permalink

Like the USA or the UN wants Israel in Iraq or Afghanistan, talk about inflaming the issue. How funny you forgot how the Jews of Palestine, before the creation of Israel fought on the Allied side in WWI and WWII against our enemies and the Arabs that sided with Germany.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 07/04/2009

Yes, many Jews from Palestine fought for the allies. But then they turned on the British and slaughtered them wholesale in a terror campaing that has never been matched in the middle east. And let's not forget that the Arabs wanted the British and French out of their countries so siding with Germany wasn't exactly a dumb move on their part. And of course Germany, the main enemy, is now one of our best allies, so why still hold a grudge against the Palestinians for siding with Germany in the war, as if they should still suffer for that while those who started the war do not?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 PM on 07/04/2009
- kentah I'm a Fan of kentah 10 fans permalink
photo

Because it's not a symbiotic relationship but a parasitic one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 07/05/2009
- Freenation I'm a Fan of Freenation 24 fans permalink

I am glad Obama is making neocons like Derhsowitz, Zuckerman, Bolton etc uncomforta­ble....thi­s means US is on right track...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 PM on 07/02/2009
- frankg3400 I'm a Fan of frankg3400 2 fans permalink

The problem is that we have to many House, Senate Members and others within our government who are dual Citizens of America and Israel. I don't think any person who is a member of our government should be a dual citizen. Who are they really loyal to??? Here is a site with some of the people who have dual citizenship with Israel. Israel is using the United States, would a friend have spies within our pentagon as Israel has done?

http://www.viewzone.com/dualcitizen.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 07/02/2009
- Macready I'm a Fan of Macready 58 fans permalink

totally agree with you frankg3400 . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 AM on 07/03/2009
- who38 I'm a Fan of who38 57 fans permalink

That should be a litmus test for all people seeking Congressional or Senate seats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 PM on 07/04/2009

I think it is about time some american Prez.has enough guts to call a spade a spade. If we really go down to the basics,major part of the middle east problem is heavy handed behaviour of Israelis towards palestinians and secondly totally one sided ,no questions asked, policy of US government.
Every one knows the stumbling block in any peaceful settlement is the question of unchecked expansion of Israel in the occupied land. Netanyahu was quite beligerent and atleast Obama had guts to put him in his place and let him know who really signs the check.
US does need to be a little more even handed than overtly one sided.By the way that is also one of the major reason people in Middle East hate USA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 07/02/2009
Page: 1 2 Next › Last » (2 pages total)
Comments are closed for this entry

 You must be logged in to comment. Log in  or connect with 

Connect