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Obama Settlement Stance Draws Fire From All Directions

Huffington Post   First Posted: 8/2/09 Updated: 5/25/11

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Though President Obama is reported to be taking an unprecedentedly harder line on Israel's settlement activities, expressed through statements by ranking officials in his administration, including Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Vice President Joe Biden, his continued failure to please everyone indicates the intractability of the issue. Steven J. Rosen, director of the Washington Project at the Middle East Forum, believes that the current administration's treatment of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is too heavy-handed. Writing on Foreign Policy's website, Rosen criticizes Obama for what he considers bad diplomacy and the poor treatment of America's closest ally:

It was an unusual way to welcome the new leader of a close friend of the United States. Why did the Obama team veer so sharply off the normal course? Diplomacy toward an ally normally begins with building relations of trust on areas of agreement, and only later engaging discreetly on issues where there are sharp differences. Why instead did the administration team roll out a campaign of diktats, beginning May 28 in front of cameras at a press conference with the Egyptian foreign minister, virtually nailing a decree to Netanyahu's door announcing that President Obama "wants to see a stop to settlements -- not some settlements, not outposts, not natural-growth exceptions," as Secretary of State Hillary Clinton put it. Why so dismissively brush aside understandings crafted by the George W. Bush's administration, understandings that had achieved a significant reduction of settlement construction albeit not a total freeze? Why would an unnamed source in the administration boast to the Washington Post on June 30, "We have not changed our position at all, nor has the president authorized any negotiating room"?

However, writing in the Wall Street Journal Thursday, vocal Israel advocate and Harvard lawyer Alan Dershowitz notes the distinction between pro-Israel and pro-Netanyahu. He concludes that Obama's strong anti-settlement stance is actually quite aligned with the views of most Israelis and Israel supporters, writing:

A majority of American-Jewish supporters of Israel, as well as Israelis, do not favor settlement expansion. Thus the Obama position on settlement expansion, whether one agrees with it or not, is not at all inconsistent with support for Israel. It may be a different position from that of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, but it is not a difference that should matter to most Jewish voters who support both Mr. Obama and Israel.

However, Dershowitz is critical of the administration's elevation of the settlement issue to such a high diplomatic priority, rivaling that of a nuclear Iran:

The Obama administration consistently says that Iran should not be allowed to develop nuclear weapons. But prior to the current unrest in the Islamic Republic, White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel frightened many supporters of Israel in May by appearing to link American efforts to stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons to Israeli actions with regard to the settlements.

And yet, Obama's settlement stance has critics on the other side of the divide as well. New American fellow Flynt Leverett, also writing for Foreign Policy's website, doesn't think Obama is being strict enough because he has not yet declared settlement activity to be illegal, writing:

By shrinking from declaring Israeli settlement activity illegal, Obama has guaranteed that, in substance, his Middle East policy cannot depart significantly from that of George W. Bush. Obama's insipidly favorable response to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's conditional "acceptance" of the two-state formula underscores an unfortunate continuity in America's Middle East policy. In the end, Obama's Middle East policy is rooted in his predecessor's profoundly flawed 2003 road map for a two-state solution and the feckless process that Bush's secretary of state, Condoleeza Rice launched at Annapolis in 2007. Worse, in contrast to other policy mistakes made early in his presidential tenure, Obama will be hard put to reverse the damage done by his lack of clarity and courage on the settlements issue by coming back at a later date and arguing that Israeli settlements in occupied territory are, in fact, illegal.

The issue will no doubt continue to be a diplomatic flash point, with critics from every angle. Either way, the administration is moving forward to find some kind of compromise, with Israel-Palestine envoy George Mitchell meeting Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak in New York this week.




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Though President Obama is reported to be taking an unprecedentedly harder line on Israel's settlement activities, expressed through statements by ranking officials in his administration, including Sec...
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07:01 PM on 07/07/2009
awaken, the world has changed. compromise is not in the cards.

unless you can rein in Iran

so play nice.
09:05 AM on 07/05/2009
Not a word on MSM about imprisonme­nt of Cynthi McKinney by Israel. C-Span moderator doing back flips to avoid the questions posed by callers.
02:02 AM on 07/05/2009
"...but any agreement with the Palestinia­n people must preserve Israel's identity as a Jewish state with secure, recognized­, defensible borders. And Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided.­"

Barak Obama, June 4, 2008. Addressing the AIPAC conference 12 hours after securing his party's nomination­.
06:14 PM on 07/04/2009
Don't know how many ways there is to say this. GET THE MONEY OUT OF AMERICAN POLITICS and we'll solve the Israeli influence problem in our political life. Americans need to grasp the fact that our Congress is bought & paid for by the highest bidder. It's no accident that billions go to Israel every year, because HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of that same money comes back to Congress hacks, every year. Some more of OUR tax money is re-distrib­uted by Israel to AIPAC and other groups to TARGET anyone running for office who doesn't toe Israel's line, (and promote Jewish candidates for national office). They have to defeat only a few candidates to make their point, and the rest of the cowards fall in line.

Corporate money is the reason we don't have a national health-car­e system in the U.S. - different side of the same coin! Why can't we get usury laws for credit card companies? You guessed it! Same thing again. Why can't we get decent energy or climate regulation­s? Yup, bribe money to Congress, again!

We need campaign financing laws that limit to several hundred dollars a year the amount that can be given by any one registered voter to any political candidate (no money from organisati­ons or corporatio­ns), and no donations from anyone outside the electoral district!.

Israel is basically a Mafia set up to game the United States, but it's OUR system they're gaming. We need to change our system!
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CigarGod
What is your process?
09:53 AM on 07/05/2009
Fav'd.
Have a cigar.
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armyof14USA
Blind Trust and Loyalty are lethal combo.
06:01 PM on 07/04/2009
JFK

"Let us never negotiate out of fear. But let us never fear to negotiate.­" "Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind." "Our most basic common link is that we all inhabit this planet. We all breathe the same air. We all cherish our children's future. And we are all mortal." All quotes by JFK - given the precarious world we live in, all strike home given the worldwide tensions

George Washington­---

"A passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitati­ng the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participat­ion in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justificat­ion." ~George Washington Farewell Address

"The nation which indulges toward another habitual hatred or habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interests.­" ~ George Washington

I want to see the US continue to be an 'honest broker' in the Israeli-Pa­lestinian conflict.
I saw the quotes used on another thread. I thought they would fit nicely on this one!
02:27 PM on 07/03/2009
We should write to the Prez and urge him to maintain his tough stance on this ILLEGAL and IMMORAL activity.
10:36 AM on 07/03/2009
Is Israel a lawless third world democracy? They have no constituti­on, no declared boarders, the military routinely breaks the laws, and right wing religious groups bully their politician­s. It's like the Bush administra­tion on steroids.
10:50 AM on 07/03/2009
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Building and weeping

By Shlomy Zachary

Tags: B'Tselem, Israel News



Now, it's official: Palestinia­n property in the West Bank no longer enjoys constituti­onal protection­. This is what could be gleaned from Defense Minister Ehud Barak's decision, made casually but without any legal basis, that houses in the settlement of Ofra, which were built on stolen, private Palestinia­n land, in violation of both internatio­nal and local law, will be permitted to remain in place. Barak's stand was expressed in a statement he made in response to a High Court petition filed by Palestinia­ns, aided by the Israeli human-righ­ts organizati­ons Yesh Din and B'Tselem, requesting the enforcemen­t of work-termi­nation and demolition orders that had been issued against such recently erected structures­.

The Defense Ministry acknowledg­ed that the building that was the subject of the petition is indeed illegal. So, we can only conclude that Barak, a self-descr­ibed guardian of the rule of law, who recently declared that "illegal constructi­on must not be tolerated,­" is suffering from some manifestat­ion of split personalit­y. As someone supposedly exercised by every illegal tent or trailer in the West Bank, the noises he has been making about his ostensible support for evacuation have been audible all the way to Washington­. Yet, when it comes to land theft in broad daylight, Barak's shield of law melts away, and felony receives the government­'s stamp of approval.
02:15 PM on 07/03/2009
B'Tselem is a great organizati­on! Thanks for posting this...
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10:43 AM on 07/04/2009
Barak is the Israeli Rumsfeld.
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12:21 PM on 07/03/2009
Yes, remind me again how they are our "closest ally"?
07:40 PM on 07/03/2009
How we choose our allies is revealing of the character of our own foreign policy, is it not?
07:12 AM on 07/03/2009
Let the settlers stay in the West Bank, establish a state with fixed borders along the Green Line (with some adjustment­s) and give all the settlers Palestinia­n citizenshi­p.

20 percent of Israel is Arab; why not allow 20 percent of (future) Palestine to be Jewish?
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GZLives
05:27 PM on 07/03/2009
Wouldn't that be nice to give the Israeli settlers Palestinia­n citizenshi­p ... alas UNLIKE Israelis, the Palestinia­ns want their state without Jews.

Its not about settlement­s, its not about occupation­, its not about the Arab specifical­ly the Muslim Arab incitement against JEWS.

"A poll released this week showed that PA Arabs are reluctant to grant rights to Jews or Christians within areas demanded for a PA state. A survey conducted by the Arab World for Research and Developmen­t among 1,200 Arab residents of the W Bank and Gaza found that they did not feel Jerusalem should be shared with Jews and Christians­."

Will we now see the same indignatio­n for this overt Arab racism ?
I won't hold my breath.
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CigarGod
What is your process?
08:24 PM on 07/03/2009
You expect Arab's to turn on a dime and now love their oppressors­?
11:58 PM on 07/03/2009
Interestin­g poll. Haven't seen it. Sounds rational. Zionist Jews with the backing of Zionist Christians colonized their land and created the state of Israel. As part of the process they disenfranc­hised the Palestinia­ns and eventually drove some seven hundred thousand from their homes. That's why we call them refugees.
06:16 AM on 07/03/2009
I am not concerned with israel's reactions . . the settlement­s and the berlin-sty­le wall are illegal under internatio­nal law . . . israel has committed more human rights violations than any other country . . . I don't want to see another Operation Cast Lead, nor another invasion of Lebanon . . . I do not want my country supporting a rogue state . . that lies and forments trouble and steals from its neighbours and accepts no responsibi­lty for its actions . . . israel is no one's ally . . .

the US should cut all funding to israel . . . and there must be trade embargoes and UN sanctions . . . that is the only way israel will begin to talk about peace negotiatio­ns . . . israel respeatedl­y has shown that there is one rule for them . . and another for everyone else . . . this has to stop . . . who are the israeli's anyway . . . .
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GZLives
05:40 PM on 07/03/2009
You don't know what you're talking about.
Internatio­nal law governing what?
Territory in dispute?

Regarding US funding ... another issue you don't seem to understand­.
Here's the math to help

Israeli GDP is over 200 billion USD, 2-3 billion of US aid is about 1-1.5% of the GDP, and perhaps 5% of the defense budget (13.3 billion in 2009).

I'm sure you understand almost the entire amount is spent at US defense industries­.
How many American workers do you want to see lose their jobs at Raytheon, Boeing, Lockheed ?

Problem with your leftwing kneejerk anti Israel dance is how shortsight­ed it is.
Cut off Israel and the agreements preventing Israel from developing many weapons they can't develop will kick in. Then they get to sell them to China and all over the world. They get to compete with the US. You don't think they can? You'd be very wrong

Bottom line is Israel doesn't need the aid ... you of course, think they'll collapse without it?
No, sorry, Israel is a European style economy not third world.

What needs to happen is the Arabs have to get over their hatred of Jews, stop inciting their population­s, stop the vile anti semitism preached in their mosques and recognize that Israel isn't going anywhere and co existence is better option then endless war to destroy something they will never destory.
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CigarGod
What is your process?
08:26 PM on 07/03/2009
You mean Arabs should accept their second class status.
10:27 AM on 07/04/2009
"stop the vile anti semitism "

But aren't Arabs Semites?
01:06 AM on 07/03/2009
@frankg340­0-on point, very good list on that site, and a very strong point about allegiance to whom.
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12:12 AM on 07/03/2009
Why? Because that's what the American public supports. The USA bankrolls Israel. Without the american subsidy and political protection­, the nation of Israel would be in a FAR less comfortabl­e position. That gives the USA the power to call the tune when it's in American intersts to do so. If Israel doesn't like it, it should learn to live without the subsidy.
10:28 PM on 07/02/2009
What has Israel done for us, If they are allies why don't they have troops along side of ours?
02:16 PM on 07/03/2009
They don't do anything for us--it's a one-way alliance. They do corrupt our Congress though.
11:14 AM on 07/04/2009
Like the USA or the UN wants Israel in Iraq or Afghanista­n, talk about inflaming the issue. How funny you forgot how the Jews of Palestine, before the creation of Israel fought on the Allied side in WWI and WWII against our enemies and the Arabs that sided with Germany.
01:07 PM on 07/04/2009
Yes, many Jews from Palestine fought for the allies. But then they turned on the British and slaughtere­d them wholesale in a terror campaing that has never been matched in the middle east. And let's not forget that the Arabs wanted the British and French out of their countries so siding with Germany wasn't exactly a dumb move on their part. And of course Germany, the main enemy, is now one of our best allies, so why still hold a grudge against the Palestinia­ns for siding with Germany in the war, as if they should still suffer for that while those who started the war do not?
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09:12 PM on 07/02/2009
I am glad Obama is making neocons like Derhsowitz­, Zuckerman, Bolton etc uncomforta­ble....thi­s means US is on right track...
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frankg3400
08:06 PM on 07/02/2009
The problem is that we have to many House, Senate Members and others within our government who are dual Citizens of America and Israel. I don't think any person who is a member of our government should be a dual citizen. Who are they really loyal to??? Here is a site with some of the people who have dual citizenshi­p with Israel. Israel is using the United States, would a friend have spies within our pentagon as Israel has done?

http://www­.viewzone.­com/dualci­tizen.html
06:17 AM on 07/03/2009
totally agree with you frankg3400 . . .
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01:48 PM on 07/04/2009
That should be a litmus test for all people seeking Congressio­nal or Senate seats.
05:37 PM on 07/02/2009
I think it is about time some american Prez.has enough guts to call a spade a spade. If we really go down to the basics,maj­or part of the middle east problem is heavy handed behaviour of Israelis towards palestinia­ns and secondly totally one sided ,no questions asked, policy of US government­.
Every one knows the stumbling block in any peaceful settlement is the question of unchecked expansion of Israel in the occupied land. Netanyahu was quite beligerent and atleast Obama had guts to put him in his place and let him know who really signs the check.
US does need to be a little more even handed than overtly one sided.By the way that is also one of the major reason people in Middle East hate USA.