US Marines Push Deeper Into Southern Afghan Towns

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U.S. Marines from the 2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade, 1st Battalion 5th Marines takes positions along a tree line in the Nawa district in Afghanistan's Helmand province Friday, July 3, 2009. U.S. forces have encountered little resistance in the initial phase of a massive operation by some 4,000 Marines in Taliban-controlled areas of southern Afghanistan, but that's a common tactic by insurgents. (AP Photo/David Guttenfelder)

NAWA, Afghanistan _ U.S. Marines pushed deeper into Taliban areas of southern Afghanistan on Friday, seeking to cut insurgent supply lines and win over local elders on the second day of the biggest U.S. military operation here since the American-led invasion of 2001.

On the other side of the border, U.S. missiles struck a Pakistani Taliban militant training center and communications center, killing 17 people and wounding nearly 30, Pakistani intelligence officials said.

Both U.S. operations were aimed at what President Barack Obama considers as the biggest dangers in the region: a resurgent Taliban-led insurgency allied with al-Qaida that threatens both nuclear-armed Pakistan and the U.S.-backed government in Afghanistan.

The 4,000-strong U.S. force met little resistance Friday as troops fanned out into villages in Afghanistan's southern Helmand province, although one Marine was killed and several others were wounded the day before, U.S. officials said.

Despite minimal contact, the Marines could see militants using flashlights late Thursday to signal one another about American troop movements.

Military spokesman Capt. Bill Pelletier said the goal of the Helmand operation was not simply to kill Taliban fighters but to win over the local population _ a difficult task in a region where foreigners are viewed with suspicion.

Marines also hope to cut the routes used by militants to funnel weapons, ammunition and fighters from Pakistan to the Taliban, which mounted an increasingly violent insurgency since its hard-line Islamist government was toppled in 2001 by an international coalition.

The new U.S. operation will test the Obama administration's new strategy of holding territory to let the Afghan government establish a presence in rural areas where Taliban influence is strong.

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As Operation Khanjar, or "Strike of the Sword," entered its second day, Marines took control of the district centers of Nawa and Garmser, and negotiated entry into Khan Neshin, the capital of Rig district, Pelletier said.

In Nawa, Marines met with about 20 Afghan men and boys, seeking to reassure them that the Americans wanted to protect them from the Taliban.

"Are you going to enter our houses?" asked Mohammad Nabi, 25, who was there with five of his younger brothers. "We are afraid that you will leave, and the Taliban will come back."

They also complained that local police were thieves not to be trusted.

Marine officers promised not to enter homes and said they would remain in the area to keep out the Taliban.

One elder with a gray beard asked the Marines whether they would prevent residents from saying Muslim prayers. The troops assured him they would not.

In one village near Nawa, however, the atmosphere was tense.

"When we asked if they had a village elder or mullah for the American commander to talk to, the answer was no," said Capt. Drew Schoenmaker, a Marine company commander. "It's fear of reprisal. Fear and intimidation is one thing the enemy does very well."

Taking territory from the Taliban has always proved easier than holding it. The challenge is especially great in Helmand because it is a center of Afghanistan's thriving opium production, and drug profits feed both the insurgency and corrupt government officials.

On Wednesday, a British lieutenant colonel was killed in an explosion in Helmand. Lt. Col. Rupert Thorneloe, commander of the 1st Battalion Welsh Guards, was the highest-ranking British officer killed in Afghanistan.

A Canadian soldier, 30-year-old Cpl. Nicholas Bulger, was killed Friday in Kandahar province after his vehicle struck an improvised explosive device, the Canadian military said. Five other soldiers were hurt.

The missile attacks in Pakistan on Friday occurred about 620 miles (1,000 kilometers) east of Helmand in the rugged South Waziristan region, according to two officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to release the information.

The area is a Taliban stronghold close to the Afghan border where Pakistani troops are gearing up for a major offensive.

Two missiles struck an abandoned seminary in the village of Mantoi used as a training base by militants from Pakistani Taliban leader Baitullah Mehsud's group, the officials said. In the other strike, one missile hit an insurgent communications center in the nearby village of Kokat Khel, they said.

In total, 17 people were killed and 27 others were wounded, they said.

However, Maulvi Noor Syed, an aide to Mehsud, told The Associated Press that only three Taliban fighters died in the strikes.

Also Friday, U.S. troops continued looking for an American soldier believed captured by insurgents, Navy Chief Petty Officer Brian Naranjo said. The soldier and three Afghans with him went missing on Tuesday in the eastern Paktika province

There was no immediate public claim of responsibility from any insurgent group. Much of the area is controlled by the Taliban faction led by Sirajuddin Haqqani, whom the U.S. has accused of masterminding beheadings and suicide bombings including the July 2008 attack on the Indian Embassy in Kabul that killed some 60 people.

Also Friday, Russia announced that it will allow the U.S. to ship weapons across its territory to Afghanistan, providing Washington an alternative route to supply its forces in the landlocked country.

Up until now, Russia has allowed the U.S. to ship non-lethal supplies across its territory for operations in Afghanistan, and Kremlin officials had suggested further cooperation was likely.

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Straziuso reported from Nawa, Brummitt from Islamabad, Pakistan. Associated Press reporters Fisnik Abrashi, Amir Shah and Noor Khan also contributed to this report from Kabul.

NAWA, Afghanistan _ U.S. Marines pushed deeper into Taliban areas of southern Afghanistan on Friday, seeking to cut insurgent supply lines and win over local elders on the second day of the biggest U.
NAWA, Afghanistan _ U.S. Marines pushed deeper into Taliban areas of southern Afghanistan on Friday, seeking to cut insurgent supply lines and win over local elders on the second day of the biggest U.
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- Martampa I'm a Fan of Martampa 13 fans permalink
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Iraq was Bush's worst mistake. Afghanistan will be Obama's worst mistake.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 PM on 07/04/2009
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Stay strong Devil Dogs! We support you and want you home ASAP!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 PM on 07/04/2009
- Bcasey11 I'm a Fan of Bcasey11 13 fans permalink
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democrats need to stop this war before it gets any deeper, protest it stop the war, make obama stop the war

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 07/04/2009
- kwinyan I'm a Fan of kwinyan 11 fans permalink
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_4wKcS_UF4

As family, friends and limbs are lost, the Afghanistanis are supposed to welcome the invaders and occupiers as liberators. Wasn't that the same prelude for Iraq?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 07/04/2009
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Women who are killed by Taliban for simply wanting to go to school certainly consider foreign troops as liberators.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 07/04/2009
- kwinyan I'm a Fan of kwinyan 11 fans permalink
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It's not women being killed, but schoolgirls having acid thrown in their faces or their schools being subjected to low levels amounts of poison, causing excruciating suffering but not death. If you're going to cite deplorable acts by extreme factions of the Taliban, please do it with some degree of accuracy. I would think losing lives and limbs unpredictably to bombings are more terrifying to women and children. Unfortunately, the militancy of the Taliban is only going to increase with civilian casualties.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 07/04/2009
- Bcasey11 I'm a Fan of Bcasey11 13 fans permalink
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we supported the Taliban in there harshest form in the late 60's early 70's laying the foundation of islamic extremism is today

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 PM on 07/04/2009
- Martampa I'm a Fan of Martampa 13 fans permalink
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No amount of intervention by the US will change a woman's life in these countries. You don't change thousands of years of wrongs with military actions. These women would be stoned to death for even talking to foreign troops.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 PM on 07/04/2009
- Rubiconski I'm a Fan of Rubiconski 30 fans permalink
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Americans still using 9/11 as an excuse to kill people.

By bombing, by burning, by terrorizing.

Nothing to be proud of today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 PM on 07/04/2009
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Not an excuse-- clear cut 'casus belli. '
In fact also 'casus foederis'-- because of alliance between Al Qaeda group and Afghan government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 07/04/2009
- MikeDu I'm a Fan of MikeDu 142 fans permalink
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By coincidence I've recently been reading Sun Tzu: "The Art of War".

"...It follows that those skilled in war can make themselves invincible, but cannot cause the enemy to be certainly vulnerable."

Translation: The U.S. in Afghanistan certainly cannot be defeated. It does not necessarily follow, though, that the U.S. in Afghanistan will be able to win. It's a bad sign that the Taliban have been so succesful at avoiding battle. Its like throwing a punch which your adversary sidesteps. At best you've wasted your energy, at worst you're now off balance and opened up for a hard left hook in return.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 PM on 07/03/2009
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Taliban are incapable of delivering "a hard hook" in any direction.
Taliban capacity to wage war as an organized military force is nil.
This is were you seriously misunderstand the Taliban capacity.
They're a guerrilla force. Nothng less and nothing more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 07/04/2009

Too bad no one in Washington passed their world history classes. The world would be a much better place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 07/03/2009
- vietveter I'm a Fan of vietveter 17 fans permalink

I am a Viet era Marine and I think that the Corps can do any task they are assigned

UNLESS

The politicos get in the middle of their program.

If I wanted to deny funding to the bad guys the first thing I would do is kick the CIA out of the country.
They have a bad track record in the area of drug sales.

Give the Marines a mission and leave them alone

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 07/03/2009
- Durango I'm a Fan of Durango 133 fans permalink

I am sure that is a common perception, particularly among Marines.

But don't forget that War is always an extension of politics by other means.

I have some hope for the Marines success precisely because I hope (and pray) that the Marines in Afghanistan understand this.

There will never be a military solution. But just maybe their pacification strategy can lead to a political solution. And not a massive slaughter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 AM on 07/04/2009
- Tidyus I'm a Fan of Tidyus 2 fans permalink

The Officer said we were not there "to simply kill insurgents." Wow! Such progress in our thinking..or does he have to say that to the great freedom fighters that scream for more war in our own country while they hide behind their wives' aprons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 07/04/2009
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As soon as we leave the Taliban returns from the hills...Such a shame and a scam, that spills the blood of our soldiers, while looting the treasury

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 07/03/2009
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I thought Obama was going to focus on counter terrorism (kill bad folks but don't try to run folks life) but it seems they are focusing on counter insurgency (run folks life and kill anyone who gets in the way) just like before.

Too bad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 07/03/2009
- Weirdwriter I'm a Fan of Weirdwriter 332 fans permalink
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Happily, you don't get to redefine the terms.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 AM on 07/04/2009

If we take off our thinking caps, we might forget that physical security and freedom are not the same thing- and that the US Armed Forces protect our physical security in some cases- and in some cases they do not.

Happy Independence Day

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 07/03/2009
- ezeflyer I'm a Fan of ezeflyer 42 fans permalink
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"Both U.S. operations were aimed at what President Barack Obama considers as the biggest dangers in the region: a resurgent Taliban-led insurgency allied with al-Qaida that threatens both nuclear-armed Pakistan and the U.S.-backed government in Afghanistan."

Reactionary pre-emptive war to keep conservatives happy. How bipartisan can you get?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 07/03/2009

What a hellish way for our troops to spend the Fourth of July weekend.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 07/03/2009
- popart I'm a Fan of popart 10 fans permalink
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Did i miss the part about how American troops will do what Russia troops could never do in Afganistan....win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 07/03/2009
- Durango I'm a Fan of Durango 133 fans permalink

Or the British troops.

But what might be different, very, very different is the attitude of the Afghan people.

Many Afghans originally accepted the Taliban precisely because they saw them as a chance for peace. The world had turned their back on Afghanistan and the country was left in ruins.

Some saw the Taliban as a way out of the endless war. maybe not the best way, but at that point any way was considered better than what they had.

That was 10-15 years ago. 10-15 more years of war.

And I think the majority of Afghans have since concluded the Taliban were a very bad alternative alternative.

Certainly the people of Mazar E Sharif concluded that back in the 1990's.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 07/03/2009
- MarcusT I'm a Fan of MarcusT 54 fans permalink
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Maybe the US is assuming that the fundamentalists will not be receiving a billion $$$ in aid from a belligerent western nation this time?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 AM on 07/04/2009
- JerryLevy I'm a Fan of JerryLevy 53 fans permalink
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Killing the religious terrorist fanatics before they kill us. Wow, that is a novel idea. Its about time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 07/03/2009
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Yo utalking about the ones there or the ones here?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 07/03/2009
- JerryLevy I'm a Fan of JerryLevy 53 fans permalink
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I did not know we had any Muslim religious fanatics here other than the ones we have jailed in New Jersey and New York.....and hopefully soon in Minnesota.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 AM on 07/04/2009
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