Biden: "We Misread How Bad The Economy Was"

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U.S. Vice President Joe Biden speaks to troops at a naturalization ceremony at al-Faw Palace on the western outskirts of Baghdad, Iraq, Saturday, July 4, 2009. Biden was in attendance as some 237 soldiers from 59 countries tool the oath during his visit to Iraq. (AP Photo/ Khalid Mohammed)

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration "misread" the depth of the economic troubles it inherited and still expects more new jobs in the long term as the spending pace from the $787 billion stimulus plan quickens, Vice President Joe Biden said.

Republican congressional leaders expressed disappointment about the impact of stimulus spending. "I'm very skeptical that the spending binge that we're on is going to produce much good and, even if it does, anytime soon," Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky said in a statement Sunday.

"I think the economy is just as likely to begin to recover on its own, wholly aside from this, before much of this has an impact."

Biden, in an interview that aired on ABC's "This Week," said the 9.5 percent unemployment rate is "much too high." The administration had predicted unemployment would stay below 8 percent with its stimulus plan.

"The figures we worked off of in January were the consensus figures and most of the blue chip indexes out there," Biden said. "We misread how bad the economy was, but we are now only about 120 days into the recovery package."

He cited the economic conditions inherited from the Bush administration. "It's now our responsibility. So the second question becomes ... is it the right package given the circumstances we're in? And we believe it is the right package given the circumstances we're in."

While Biden argued that more jobs will be created in the coming months, House Republican leader John Boehner of Ohio said the GOP had wanted the bill to focus on small businesses and helping people keep more of what they earned.

"This was supposed to be about jobs, jobs and jobs. And the fact is it turned into nothing more than spending, spending and more spending on a lot of big government bureaucracy," Boehner said.

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Even House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., said no one is satisfied with the results of the stimulus so far. "But we believe the stimulus was absolutely essential," he said.

Biden noted that the plan was set up to spend the money over 18 months. Major programs will take effect in September, including $7.5 billion for broadband Internet service, plus new money for high-speed rail and the nation's electrical grid, he said.

Biden said it's premature to say whether the country will need a second stimulus package.

Other issues Biden discussed during his ABC interview:

_Asked whether the United States would put the lives of U.S. troops on the line should violence flare up again in Iraq, he said "no." The U.S. still plans to withdraw all troops by 2011, Biden said. "We believe the Iraqis will be fully capable of maintaining their own security."

_Biden said if the Iranian government seeks to engage in a dialogue with the United States, the U.S. will engage. "The offer's on the table."

_Biden said Israel has the right to pursue a different course of action on Iran than the U.S. does. "Look, Israel can determine for itself _ it's a sovereign nation _ what's in their interest and what they decide to do relative to Iran and anyone else."

_On North Korea's Saturday launch of missiles, he said such actions appear to be efforts to seek attention. "The question is, is there anything that we should do about it?" Arguing that the U.S. policy has been correct so far, he said, "We have succeeded in uniting the most important and critical countries to North Korea on a common path of further isolating North Korea."

_The Obama administration is "well on the way" to resolving a dispute between CIA Director Leon Panetta and National Intelligence Director Dennis Blair, Biden said. The conflict centers on Blair's effort to choose his own representatives at U.S. embassies instead of relying only on CIA station chiefs. "He declined to give details.

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration "misread" the depth of the economic troubles it inherited and still expects more new jobs in the long term as the spending pace from the $787 billion stimul...
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YOUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SAYS:
Oops! We need more money. Really, trust us this time. We know what we are doing. If another stimulus doesn't work then we will just steal more money from the people. In this administration we are committed to stealing and printing as much money as we need to fix all these problems that Bush created. If we have to wipe out every penny of American wealth then that's what we will do. Nobody is going to tell us what to do. Not even the American people have a say in how we know-it-all's are going to do to fix our economy. We don't care if the government is responsible for these problems and we don't care that we have never run a successful program in our entire history. We are the government and the people will do as they are told or we will simply throw more protesters in jail. You think your local police are abusive wait til you scrw with us. Now shut up and hand it over!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 PM on 07/06/2009
- writerroz I'm a Fan of writerroz 14 fans permalink
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I don't know that I go along with all of your points, but it is good seeing our people getting reved up, and I hope you will all use this energy to keep our President honest to his promises. Write, call, e-mail President Obama and the Democrats to continue reminding them of what "We the People" expect. Some times, some people really NEED to see we're at their backs, either to push for continued good or to point to the good we expect. I seriously believe our President intended good and maybe got off track. I don't like Geithner or Summers either, so another reason to keep President Obama's nose to the grindstone. We've maybe gotten blindsighted after eight years of a thieving bunch who NEVER listened to any of us and let us know they didn't care what we thought. Let's get busy now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 07/06/2009
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Obama is not in this for the people. He is in it for power and money. One way to gain more power is to destroy the American dollar and the economy. He will then blame it on the greedy corporations and Bush while him and his 16 Czars take total control.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 07/06/2009
- Benton I'm a Fan of Benton 40 fans permalink

If Bush and the sycophantic Congress had not done everything possible to destroy the economic viability of this country this would not even be a conversation.

If they had done anything other then put the regulated industries in charge of every major regulatory agency this could of at the very least been mitigated. NO, NO instead they take a dump on the middle of the floor and blame their mess on the next guy that walks in the room.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 07/06/2009
- kesmarn I'm a Fan of kesmarn 76 fans permalink

Yup. Like a pilot bailing out of the plane as it's headed nose first into the ground, then blaming the other guy in the cockpit for the consequences. (hmmmm. Tell me again about Poppy's war record.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 PM on 07/06/2009

Misread the economy and double the spending to $2.5 truh?

Now where are those pesky wmd's

doh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 07/06/2009
- ThomasMc I'm a Fan of ThomasMc 10 fans permalink

Our government is just a conspiracy by the filthy rich to rob the rest of us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 07/06/2009
- Hoelder I'm a Fan of Hoelder 19 fans permalink
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There is some old news. Do you know when you work one day in a year you are not counted as unemployed. But enough of that when I have some really juicy bit of news. Did you know that all these wonderful companies: HP, DELL, Gateway, Apple etc are actually neither design nor manufacture their notebooks? Two Chinese companies whose name you never heard: Quantas and Compal. They own 90% of the world market. The only step left for these great innovators HP, Apple,DELL is to put the pieces you can chose together. Our economy seems to be carved out. The last bit of innovation has long gone. Now add all the bad health care, crumbling infrastructure, lousy schools, inefficient energy companies and being owned by Goldman Sachs, there will be not many 4th of Julys left. Oh I forgot, you can keep your damn guns until the Chinese pry them out of your cold, cold hands.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 07/06/2009
- -0013 I'm a Fan of -0013 10 fans permalink

'Do you know when you work one day in a year you are not counted as unemployed. "

Patently false.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 AM on 07/06/2009
- writerroz I'm a Fan of writerroz 14 fans permalink
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This inaccuracy, LIE has the smell of Limbaugh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 07/06/2009

The effects of de-regulation in the financial markets and the exportation of labor to the cheapest bidder took years to get us to this dire point. The stimulus passed 3 months ago. Give it a chance!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 07/06/2009
- Klimb I'm a Fan of Klimb 21 fans permalink

Well said! Give it years to work! People need to wake up and know that there is no quick fix to this economic crisis!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 AM on 07/06/2009
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Yes give it a couple of decades. RU NUTZ! Obama said he needed the money immediately and that it would stimulate the economy. Well his bs projects are moving along and we are still scrwd. Wake up. It didn't work and it's not going to work. More money after bad is not the answer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 07/06/2009
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The stimulus will do little to nothing for the majority of working Americans.

Not that it was the wrong thing to do, but, in my opinion, it was too little and too late.

The only thing that it has done, in my humble opinion, was shore up the "individuals" who created the problem and thereby "re-distributed the wealth" form the middle class to the rich--who we all know are better than the rest of us.

Keep voting for Dems and Reps, people! Maybe one day you will see the futility and insanity of supporting one wing of the same corporatist bird over the other--but I seriously doubt it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 07/06/2009
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Yes!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 07/06/2009
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The Fed and too much regulation got us to this point. Pay attention.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 07/06/2009
- polarcap2 I'm a Fan of polarcap2 5 fans permalink
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if you ever wondered how the dimmocraps were voted into power, take a look at the electorate on this site

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 07/06/2009
- writerroz I'm a Fan of writerroz 14 fans permalink
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JHEEZE! You would know better if you would stop listening to and believing Limbaugh and FOX liars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 07/06/2009
- mero909 I'm a Fan of mero909 31 fans permalink
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haha... a bad economy they "inherited". I always love that term. Like Joe and Obama weren't Senators voting in legislation to help bring about the economy they "inherited".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 07/06/2009
- Liberal2 I'm a Fan of Liberal2 39 fans permalink

Unfortunte­ly.....you are correct. As far as I'm concerned, and I voted for Obuma and Biden, neither have ever shown political courage. However, the main blame, 95% or so, falls on rethugs because the factors that led to the curremt meltdown came directly out of rethug thinking. So my point is neither Obuma nor Biden showed the courage to stand up to rethug incompetence and outright criminality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 07/06/2009
- writerroz I'm a Fan of writerroz 14 fans permalink
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But, oh, you forgot that there were not enough Democrats to override Bush vetos. How Silly!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 07/06/2009
- DallasMike I'm a Fan of DallasMike 11 fans permalink

I remember Clintons saying something like that just before he raised ou taxes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 07/06/2009
- Liberal2 I'm a Fan of Liberal2 39 fans permalink

The rethugs promised the result would be a depression. Turned into an economic boom time.

Rethugs cut taxes and promise economic growth. Every time, a recession followed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 07/06/2009
- novoorganum I'm a Fan of novoorganum 127 fans permalink
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There is no difference between the parties, both are part of the patirician class beholden to big business, banks, and lobbyist dollars. The rest of us are are commoners or part of the plebian class with no influence or sway with our elected officials. They are a group completely alien to the everyday needs of most of the population with the exception of a few who really seek change, but have no real power or a stage to communicate this message. Most of us are merely spectators and not participants in our government. The power structures are simply ashamed, so they hide their ineffectiveness and inadequacies from public view in order to maintain power and image equanimity. While all this is taking place, more jobs are being lost, more homes are being lost to foreclosure, more Americans are losing health insurance, more Americans as well as their children are going to bed hungry, and more Americans are falling into poverty.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 07/06/2009
- nvg I'm a Fan of nvg permalink

This country would be much better off,
if Biden will keep his mouth shut.
Something he had to realize 30 years ago

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 07/06/2009
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Hey, they guessed wrong on the economy. Big Deal. Let's give them another chance on healthcare and cap & trade.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 07/06/2009
- polarcap2 I'm a Fan of polarcap2 5 fans permalink
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what will cap and trade do for you, as a matter of interest?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 07/06/2009

He's right, as usual. Bush/Cheney screwed everything up beyond recognitio­n.........­Then Obama continued the failed strategy of giving corporations exactly what they wanted....­..More money to be used against the public. They are using our own money against us in as many ways as they can think of. Keep giving rich people more money and see how fast the economy recovers. If you want a full recovery, give the money to people who don't have enough (guess what they will do with it??). Giving money to people who are already wealthy doesn't create jobs, it creates more wealth (sitting in a hedge fund).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 07/06/2009
- Chubbster I'm a Fan of Chubbster 34 fans permalink

And there will be even more jobless as the administration, in a brilliant move, wants to raise the minimum wage. At this very moment, how dumb is that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 07/06/2009

It was hard to judge the economy because GW had built in so many financial gimmicks and funky accounting. from the NYT Feb 2009. But this was only the tip of the iceberg.

For his first annual budget next week, President Obama has banned four accounting gimmicks that President George W. Bush used to make deficit projections look smaller. The price of more honest bookkeeping: A budget that is $2.7 trillion deeper in the red over the next decade than it would otherwise appear, according to administration officials.

Mr. Obama’s banishment of the gimmicks, which have been widely criticized, is in keeping with his promise to run a more transparent government.

Fiscal sleight of hand has long been a staple of federal budgets, giving rise to phrases like “rosy scenario” and “magic asterisks.­”

The $2.7 trillion in additional deficit spending, Mr. Orszag said, is “a huge amount of money that would just be kind of a magic asterisk in previous budgets.”

“The president prefers to tell the truth,” he said, “rather than make the numbers look better by pretending­.”

Virtually all economic indicators under the Bush Whitehouse were changed to look rosier so no one would notice how bad things were-no wonder they were shocked themselves and pushed the emergency TARP bill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 07/06/2009
- DallasMike I'm a Fan of DallasMike 11 fans permalink

The NY times? now there is a reputable source for ya

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 07/06/2009
- Liberal2 I'm a Fan of Liberal2 39 fans permalink

Versus what? FOX? The rethug party? You?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 07/06/2009
- exhale09 I'm a Fan of exhale09 73 fans permalink
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fanned

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 07/06/2009
- polarcap2 I'm a Fan of polarcap2 5 fans permalink
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what a fruitcake!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 07/06/2009
- kesmarn I'm a Fan of kesmarn 76 fans permalink

Indeed, Dubya was...and still is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 07/06/2009
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