Vatican Runs Deficit Amid Global Economic Crisis

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| 07/ 4/09 12:32 PM | AP

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VATICAN CITY — The Vatican said Saturday it ran a deficit in 2008 as its finances and donations from across the world were hit by the global economic crisis.

The Vatican posted a budget deficit for a second straight year, though the figures improved strongly from 2007. The Holy See's 2008 deficit was around euro0.9 million ($1.28 million), compared with a loss of euro9.06 million a year earlier.

The financial report released Saturday by the Holy See's press office listed revenues of euro253.9 million and expenses for euro254.8 million.

Most of expenses went to support the activities of Pope Benedict XVI and the Holy See's offices, especially Vatican Radio and other media divisions, the report said.

It said the separate administration of the Vatican City state was particularly hit by the economic crisis. High costs to restore the Vatican's cultural treasures and ensure security left the tiny state with a euro15.3 million deficit, after closing 2007 with a euro6.7 million gain.

The Vatican said annual donations from churches worldwide, the so-called Peter's Pence, were down to almost $75.8 million from $79.8 million in 2007. Leading donors were faithful in the United States, Italy and Germany.

The pope uses the fund to help churches in poor countries and other charitable causes.

The Vatican has published the annual report since 1981, when Pope John Paul II ordered financial disclosure as part of his efforts to debunk the idea that the Vatican is rich.

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VATICAN CITY — The Vatican said Saturday it ran a deficit in 2008 as its finances and donations from across the world were hit by the global economic crisis. The Vatican posted a budget deficit...
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- SansArc I'm a Fan of SansArc 22 fans permalink
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Why is it funny that this is in the business section?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 07/05/2009
- BigBagel I'm a Fan of BigBagel 33 fans permalink
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The Catholic Church has a legacy that's made it's mark in music, the arts, literature. They have the Sistine Chapel you have Pat Boone singing some schmaltzy Jesus song. The high point of American religion: some crazy lady with big hair babbling on cable TV trying to sell a prayer cloth. They have Georgetown University and Notre Dame. You have Liberty University.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 07/05/2009
- Jaybot I'm a Fan of Jaybot 11 fans permalink

Don't forget the Dark Ages, now there's a proud legacy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 07/05/2009
- BigBagel I'm a Fan of BigBagel 33 fans permalink
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Yes and who preserved culture during that time? Who provided the building blocks of the enlightenment?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 07/05/2009
- Hank007 I'm a Fan of Hank007 92 fans permalink

Yet they loath the homosexuals who created that music and art. Heck most still refuse to admit the genius who painted the homo-erotic imagery of the Sistine Chapel was really gay.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 07/05/2009
- Jaybot I'm a Fan of Jaybot 11 fans permalink

I suppose they could go back to selling indulgences.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 07/05/2009
- CR46 I'm a Fan of CR46 277 fans permalink

Doon't worry the Catholic Church is continuing to steal land from the poor in third world countries....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 07/05/2009
- BigBagel I'm a Fan of BigBagel 33 fans permalink
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and selling it to the J:ews and the Illuminati. Right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:51 PM on 07/05/2009
- Airmail56 I'm a Fan of Airmail56 25 fans permalink
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Perhaps they should not have given those Millions to ACORN.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 07/05/2009
- CAHertzfe I'm a Fan of CAHertzfe 33 fans permalink
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That was a stupid remark.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 07/05/2009
- Airmail56 I'm a Fan of Airmail56 25 fans permalink
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Not as stupid as the Church (very anti-abortion) giving money to ACORN ( very pro-abortion)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 07/05/2009
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Tell the pope to sell those chapters in the Bible that no one has ever seen ... plus the pope should sell all that gold he hords in the basement of the vatican.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 07/05/2009
- kjstjohn I'm a Fan of kjstjohn 257 fans permalink
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Secret Mark. Are there any other books/chapters we should be clammoring for?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 07/05/2009
- hypnotoad72 I'm a Fan of hypnotoad72 107 fans permalink
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Definitely not Ezekiel 23:20
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ezekiel+23:20

More like these, and various others not found here:
http://www.surfinthespirit.com/finances/money-quotes.html
http://www.bible-quotes-science-info.com/art/a-6-possess-inherent-man.htm

Assuming the Bible reflects the utter reality, of course...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 07/05/2009
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People stopped donating to the Church because their donations were funding pedophiles.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 07/05/2009
- Airmail56 I'm a Fan of Airmail56 25 fans permalink
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So does the DNC...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 PM on 07/05/2009
- SansArc I'm a Fan of SansArc 22 fans permalink
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Since when did the DNC fund the church.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 07/05/2009
- Jase84 I'm a Fan of Jase84 70 fans permalink

Good. Would I be out of line in hoping the establishment crumbles?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 07/05/2009
- BexSF I'm a Fan of BexSF 4 fans permalink

No, you wouldn't be out of line.

Too bad it hadn't happened sooner, even Centuries ago. Think of all the lives that could have been saved.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 PM on 07/05/2009

I don't consider the church the establishment.

Why would you want the establishment to crumble? Where would you work?

It's a given that anyone who has such a wish list is not self-sufficient or capable of working for himself/herself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 07/05/2009
- Pleneras I'm a Fan of Pleneras 104 fans permalink
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http://www.trosch.org/bks/rvw/millenari.html

Fraud and Immorality
The Competitors –

In ecclesiastical circles, and particularly in the Vatican Curia, homosexuality is either a slander that taints the victim for the rest of his life, or a competition that prelates enter to see how much they can get away with. It is, nevertheless, a dangerous sport played by the less sophisticated.

In some Vatican circles, the phenomenon of homosexuality
–a state of being that today is regarded with clemency and understanding– can help a hopeful candidate advance more quickly and cause a rival to lose the desire to present himself for promotion. The intrigues are cruel, and the protagonists are even more so.

In the list of hopefuls for promotion, the one who gives himself from the waist down has a better chance than the one who gives his heart and mind to the service of God and his brothers. In those cases, charm is worth more than merit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 PM on 07/05/2009
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The only thing I could think of is: GOOD!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 07/05/2009
- BeenieMon I'm a Fan of BeenieMon 15 fans permalink
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i guess that means less cash for ped.o.phile priest victims.....the N.A.Z.I. KKKatholic cross dresser needs a new hat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 07/05/2009
- helonias I'm a Fan of helonias 269 fans permalink
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26:1 “You shall not make idols for yourselves or erect an image or pillar, and you shall not set up a figured stone in your land to bow down to it, for I am the Lord your God.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 07/05/2009
- SansArc I'm a Fan of SansArc 22 fans permalink
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They always miss those little details.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 07/05/2009
- helonias I'm a Fan of helonias 269 fans permalink
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Second Commandment

Sell off some graven images perhaps

"You shall not make for yourself a graven image,
or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above,
or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water
under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them;
for I The Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the
iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and
the fourth generation of those who hate Me, but showing
steadfast love to thousands of those who love Me and keep My Commandments."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 PM on 07/05/2009
- StephBr I'm a Fan of StephBr 4 fans permalink
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Blah blah blah

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 07/05/2009
- richdibo I'm a Fan of richdibo 22 fans permalink
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Eleventh Commandment

Ignore or be selective with the prior ten.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 07/05/2009

Who will bail it out?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 07/05/2009
- helonias I'm a Fan of helonias 269 fans permalink
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Jesus answered, 'If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.'"
-Matthew 19:21

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 PM on 07/05/2009

Jesus most likely never existed. Mathew and his crew made him up, each plagiarizing from the other.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:24 PM on 07/05/2009
- kjstjohn I'm a Fan of kjstjohn 257 fans permalink
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Matthew and his crew were not smart enough to imagine Jesus though they no doubt elaborated and in some instances suppressed.

Jesus was one of the great lights of the world. Only another great light such as the Buddha could have made him up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 PM on 07/05/2009
- helonias I'm a Fan of helonias 269 fans permalink
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(Lk 12:15) "Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; a man's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 07/05/2009
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Churches should not be allowed tax exempt status. Only what is donated to charity should be tax exempt. These donations should have to spent within the border of the United States. Spreading one's religion does not count.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 07/05/2009
- kjstjohn I'm a Fan of kjstjohn 257 fans permalink
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I am a Baptist but one of the things that I appreciate about the missionary work of the Catholics overseas is that it does not focus on conversion but rather in feeding, clothing, and healing. I read this in a book written by a Catholic missionary/monk and am welcome to being corrected if I am wrong. I do agree that it is troublesome that tax-free dollars are used for purposes of proselytizing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 07/05/2009
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You are incredibly gullible if you think the Catholic Church does anything for anyone at any time in any part of the world without an iron-clad agenda that increases the power and financial stability of its own golden and bejeweled corridors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 07/05/2009
- HPdevotee I'm a Fan of HPdevotee 35 fans permalink
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I suggest you read more books and not ones written by co-conspirators.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 07/05/2009

Written by a Catholic missionary/monk. No bias or promotion there!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 07/05/2009
- roshni I'm a Fan of roshni 182 fans permalink

Even Mother Teresa was proselytizing in Calcutta.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 07/05/2009
- Steamboater I'm a Fan of Steamboater 202 fans permalink
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Gues the pope will have to start sleeping on seconds for sheets instead of the $1,200 ones he's been sleeping on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 07/05/2009
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