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First Posted: 07- 6-09 09:49 AM   |   Updated: 08- 6-09 05:12 AM

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Tuesday's updates are here.

11:59 PM ET -- The brave women of Iran. Mothers gather in front of the notorious Evin prison -- where beatings and torture have been reported by countless prisoners over years -- to protest the detention of their children.

These videos are reportedly from today:



11:55 PM ET -- Major demonstration in D.C. on Thursday. I'll be posting more on this tomorrow, but a reader writes, "Please Note that on Thursday July 9th at 6pm there will be a large rally for 18 Tir (Iran Student Day) in Washington DC 14th Street and Pennsylvania North West." Here's the Facebook page with more details.

11:01 PM ET -- No change in Iran policy, White House insists. "As White House and Office of the Vice President aides formed a united front against widespread media speculation about a change in policy signaled by Vice President Joseph Biden's statement on a Sunday news show that Israel is a 'sovereign nation' that could 'determine for itself' how to deal with threats from Iran, analysts said that Israel may be wary of any such green light in any case."

That's the lede of Laura Rozen's latest for Foreign Policy. It's the most comprehensive piece written thus far on Biden's remarks and the wide range of reactions. There's way too much to excerpt -- you should just read the complete piece.

Meanwhile...

Israel's hard-line foreign minister on Monday welcomed Vice President Joe Biden's statement that Israel can make its own decision about whether to attack Iran's nuclear facilities, calling it "logical."
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But other Israeli leaders avoided comment, a low-key reaction that suggested Israel did not see Biden's comments as a green light to strike against its biggest Mideast rival. President Barack Obama underlined that diplomacy with Iran remains an option.

10:53 PM ET -- Rafsanjani's party dismisses election results. After weeks of working behind-the-scenes, Rafsanjani has apparently given the okay for his party to publicly reject the results of last month's election. My question: why now?

A day after commanders of the Revolutionary Guard warned there was no middle ground in the dispute over the reelection of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the political party of one of Iran's most powerful clerics Monday defiantly issued a statement dismissing the vote.


The statement by the Kargozaran Sazandegi, or Executives of Construction Party, all but cleared away weeks of ambiguity about the stance of the powerful cleric Ayatollah Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani.ce trial

The cleric, who heads two government councils that oversee the supreme leader and mediate disputes between branches, openly backed Mir-Hossein Mousavi. But he has not spoken definitively about the election since the June 12 vote, which was validated after a partial recount by the powerful Guardian Council.

"We declare that the result is unacceptable due to the unhealthy voting process, massive electoral fraud and the siding of the majority of the Guardian Council with a specific candidate," said the statement issued by the party.


10:51 PM ET -- Mousavi appears in public for first time in 3 weeks. Washington Post:

Opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi, appearing in public for the first time in nearly three weeks, vowed Monday that protests against the disputed reelection of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad "will not end" and predicted that the new government would encounter problems because it lacks legitimacy.


But the former presidential candidate, who maintains he was denied victory in the June 12 election by massive vote-rigging on behalf of Ahmadinejad, stopped short of calling for new street demonstrations, which the government has declared illegal and largely crushed in a massive crackdown. Instead, Mousavi indicated that the opposition would adopt new tactics, pursuing protest "within the framework of the law."

10:35 PM ET -- SMS down again. Via Cyrus Farivar, Radio Farda is reporting that SMS service is down again (just in time for the anniversary of the 18th Tir student protests).

9:45 PM ET -- Will G8 Condemn Iran? Human Rights Watch executive director Kenneth Roth is calling on leaders of the G8 industrialized nations to condemn Iran's crackdown on protesters:

The Iranian authorities are trying to blame 'foreign powers' for their violent and abusive campaign against peaceful protesters. The G8 needs to make it clear to Tehran that it cannot shift the blame and that human rights concerns will be at the forefront of future G8 engagement with Iran.

5:11 PM ET -- Tehran Bureau gets another well-deserved write-up, this one by the Associated Press.

4:58 PM ET -- Biden's Iran comments. Via reader Heather, Middle East analyst Juan Cole disagrees that Biden's remarks yesterday gave Israel the green light for a military strike on Iran:

I think Biden's remarks on Israel and Iran were aimed at underlining the independence of US policy-making toward Iran. He underlined twice that the US would not alter its own posture toward Iran, regardless of what others did. That he also said that the Israelis are sovereign and that the US could not stop them from launching a missile strike on Iran, is just the United Nations Charter. I.e. it is boilerplate. In my view the significant bit is this:


BIDEN: Look, Israel can determine for itself -- it's a sovereign nation -- what's in their interest and what they decide to do relative to Iran and anyone else.


STEPHANOPOULOS: Whether we agree or not?

BIDEN: Whether we agree or not. They're entitled to do that. Any sovereign nation is entitled to do that. But there is no pressure from any nation that's going to alter our behavior as to how to proceed.

What we believe is in the national interest of the United States, which we, coincidentally, believe is also in the interest of Israel and the whole world. And so there are separate issues.

So what Biden was really saying is that the Obama administration intends to engage Iran diplomatically, and that if anyone wants Iran attacked they will have to do it themselves. This is not a green light to the Israelis, who hardly need one. It is a tough message to the right wing of the Israel lobbies that the Obama administration is not going to launch any hostilities with Iran, even after the hard line power grab of three weeks ago.

4:14 PM ET -- French woman held in Iran as spy. "France has demanded the release of a French academic who it says has been detained in Iran since 1 July, accused of spying. The French foreign ministry condemned the arrest of the unnamed woman and said the allegations of spying did not stand up to examination. The French news agency AFP says the woman is an academic in Isfahan. She had been in Iran for five months, and was arrested at Tehran airport as she was about to depart for Beirut."

3:02 PM ET -- Iran goes on strike. Via reader Ken, the latest from Reza Aslan.

2:46 PM ET -- Pregnant journalist believed to be languishing in Iranian prison. For those looking for a place to send donations, the International Campaign for Human Rights in Iran has been doing fantastic work. Their new release is particularly distressing:

With as many as two thousand individuals, including more than two-hundred prominent personalities, under incommunicado detention in Iran, serious concerns for their health and safety are growing. There are increasing reports of extensive use of solitary confinement and torture against the detainees. While the Iranian Judiciary has announced a directive to criminalize cooperation with satellite television programs and "opposition" internet communication, authorities have continued to detain individual journalists, including Masoud Bastani, who was arrested on 5 July as he inquired about the whereabouts of his wife, Mahsa Amrabadi, a pregnant journalist arrested on 14 June, according to the International Campaign for Human Rights in Iran. The life of another detainee, Saeed Hajarian, a prominent politician and journalist who is paralyzed, is in danger. For the past ten days, his family have not been able to verify his condition. He may be in critical condition and hospitalized. Since his detention on 15 June, his wife has been able to see him only once for ten minutes.

2:40 PM ET -- Doctors denounce terror in the hospitals. Via readers Sara and Paul, WhyWeProtest has a translated version of a story published today in the French paper La Figaro.

Update: Journalist Fintan Dunne sends over his much improved translation:

One of a pair of Iranian doctors, who fled the capital to France, says an unofficial tally by medical staff at Tehran area hospitals counted 92 violent deaths related to conflicts with security forces. The death toll is considerably at variance with an official figure of 17 deaths.


The account of events in Tehran by the doctors, who declined to be identified for reasons of personal safety has been published today in the online edition of the French newspaper Le Figaro. They say that intimidation prevented them revealing the scale of casualties but motivated them to flee to France to reveal the details.

Among the dead were an eight months pregnant woman and six young males found dead in Shahriar, on the outskirts of the capital. "They all died from wounds in the neck, " said the second unidentified doctor, quoting information from a trusted medical colleague. "Their skulls had been smashed and their brains had been opened, presumably to retrieve the bullet and destroy evidence of the crime."

1:29 PM ET -- Still trying to spin Neda's death. These officials are shameless.

Iranian Police Chief Esmail Ahmadi-Moqaddam says his comments on a witness in the death of Neda Agha-Soltan during post-election unrest were distorted.


Iranian media on Wednesday carried reports quoting the brigadier general as saying that the International Police force known as Interpol is on the hunt for Arash Hejazi, who was pictured while trying to help Neda.

A day after Ahmadi-Moqaddam's reported comments Interpol spokesperson Rachel Billington rejected involvement in any investigation into the death of Neda.

Ahmadi-Moqaddam, however, moved to reject the published report.

"Although I tend to choose my words with utmost care, a certain website has carried a story saying that I have said the Intelligence Ministry and Interpol are after Mr. Hejazi," Iran's police chief said on Monday.

"This is while I had said Iran's Intelligence Ministry and criminal police are on the case," he told reporters in Tehran.

12:38 PM ET -- Dubai police stop Iran petition. "Iranian protesters who gathered in Dubai last night were prevented by police from signing a petition against their president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Officers told the 100-strong crowd they were forbidden from sending official petitions from UAE soil."

11:30 AM ET -- Tehran shut-down. Iran's state media outlets (also here) are reporting that after an emergency meeting, Tehran's pollution committee has decided to close all government agencies, schools, and factories for the next two days due to heavy pollution.

The timing of the closures seem very suspicious, coinciding with the major 10-year anniversary of the 18th Tir student protests. Several readers have noted that a national day of strike was called for the anniversary, and these pollution closures would take that action off the table.

Update: Here's state-backed Press TV's account of the closings, which it blames on dust pollution.

11:21 AM ET -- A new poem for the rooftops of Iran. Reader Chas Danner, with help from several Farsi-speaking readers, has published a new video of the "Allah-o Akbar" chants accompanied by some beautiful, poetic commentary by an Iranian woman.

It's so very touching.


11:17 AM ET -- Mousavi holds planning meeting? The news site Baztab reports claims that Mousavi met recently with Hassan Khomeini (grandson of Iran's revolutionary leader Ayatollah Khomeini) and reformist former president Rafsanjani to discuss further actions against the election result.

11:09 AM ET -- Ayatollah Beheshti's son warns against arresting Mousavi. In the midst of calls for prosecution of Mousavi, Ali-Reza Beheshti, son of the late Ayatollah Beheshti, says there must be "clever individuals in Iran who know what cost such a prosecution would entail."

10:17 AM ET -- Iran's parliament speaker congratulates Ahmadinejad. Via a reader, Parliament Speaker Ali Larijani has visited Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and officially congratulated him on his reelection.

This is unfortunate news for the reformists. Larijani is a conservative, but he has a long, negative history with Ahmadinejad and had been a consistent thorn in his side after the election, arguing at one point that the majority of the country did not trust the election results.


10:04 AM ET -- Revolutionary Guard takes command. The Los Angeles Times reports:

The top leaders of Iran's elite Revolutionary Guard publicly acknowledged they had taken over the nation's security and warned late Sunday that there was no middle ground in the ongoing dispute over the reelection of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in a threat against a reformist wave led by Mir-Hossein Mousavi.


Maj. Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari, commander of the elite military branch, said the Guard's takeover of the country had led to "a revival of the revolution and clarification of the value positions of the establishment at home and abroad."

"These events put us in a new stage of the revolution and political struggles, and all of us must fully comprehend its dimensions," he said at a Sunday press conference, according to reports that surfaced today.

9:58 AM ET -- Khamenei warns "meddling" West. The Supreme Leader remains on-message:

Iranian supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei warned Western leaders on Monday of a "firm fist" in response to their "meddling" in Iran's domestic affairs.


"The leaders of arrogant countries, the nosy meddlers in the affairs of the Islamic republic, must know that no matter if the Iranian people have their own differences, when you enemies get involved, the people... will become a firm fist against you," he said in a televised speech.

"The Iranian nation warns the leaders of those countries trying to take advantage of the situation, beware! The Iranian nation will react."

Iranian leaders have accused the West, particularly Britain and the United States of seeking to destabilise the country in the aftermath of its disputed presidential election.

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Here is the link to the Mahmoud song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ6S-NCiwRM

LaReina

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 PM on 07/09/2009

Do see my new video DRAG QUEEN VS. DICTATOR on youtube, its about Mahmoud Ahmadinijad whom I call "Mockme Imajinglebob" in the song... there is an HD version on my ianvictorian channel at www.ianvictorian.com also on www.lareina.tv and www.haters.tv

MsLaReina

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 PM on 07/09/2009
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Pitney's trying so hard to find something to report. Soon this column will be relegated to the dustbin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 AM on 07/07/2009
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This was on BBCPersian, I have translated on google ......... the translation is kind of ..... but I got the message, I hope, my guess is this has something to do with that sand storm in Iraq and Saudi Arabia.

پایتخت ایران به تعطیلی فرو خواهد رفت
Down to the closure of the capital

Officials in Tehran for the second consecutive day due to air pollution, activity centers, except the city administrative centers and military police have shut down.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/persian/iran/2009/07/090707_mg_tehran_air_pollution.shtml

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 AM on 07/07/2009
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If you haven't read my comment down the page, or click on Reza Aslan's link above. ;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 AM on 07/07/2009
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Khirad
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I have read Reza Aslan's article, it was very interesting ....... It's very strange we don't see him on TV any more!!!!!

I heard yesterday was a religious holiday in Iran (Imam Ali), but I guess now because of this weather, all the schools and government offices are closed.
There was a sandstorm in Iraq, Saudi, and those little Arab countries.

Sandstorm In Middle East May Be Largest In Modern History

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/06/iraq-sandstorm-may-be-lar_n_226441.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 AM on 07/07/2009
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Khirad
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I have read Reza Aslan's article, it was very interesting ....... It's very strange we don't see him on TV any more!!!!!

I heard yesterday was a religious holiday in Iran (Imam Ali), but I guess now because of this weather, all the schools and government offices are closed.
There was a sandstorm in Iraq, Saudi, and those little Arab countries.

This article is on H _p World section:
"Sandstorm In Middle East May Be Largest In Modern History"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 AM on 07/07/2009
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If the people had not been l.i.e.d to or di.sre.sp.ec.ted, the situation would have never turned to a national crisis.

~~ Mousavi's Ghalamnews report

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 AM on 07/07/2009
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Iran 'security state' lambasted

Mr Mousavi said post-election arrests would radicalise protesters further
Iranian opposition leaders have criticised what they describe as the "security state" imposed in the country after the controversial June elections.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8137718.stm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 07/07/2009
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Along the same line of the LA Times story.

I love this just for the title:

Iran's Mousavi urged to form political party
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=99939&sectionid=351020101

Well, I'm off. If you see 'em say hi to wereeverywhere, Abstract Imp, Siberian Rat, jaleh, DontbombIran, athenasword and anyone else I forgot.

I'm wondering if there's anyway to turn this sandstorm to an advantage, especially for 18 Tir.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 07/07/2009
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I just wish Rafsanjani would come on National TV and read his statement himself ....... I know this is a wishful thinking, but hey I can wish!

I know it is not that simple but Rafsanjani can change this situation if really wants to!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 AM on 07/07/2009
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My heart goes to all those mothers gather in front of E.vin prison to protest the de.te.n.tion of their children.

that video is heart breaking ......... I wish there was a translation for that video.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 07/07/2009
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 07/07/2009
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I also like this performance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3N2zfed1AU

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 07/07/2009
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rb00
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Thanks for the video ....... unfortunately I do not know what they are singing but I can feel it.

By any chance do you have the translation?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 AM on 07/07/2009
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Keep Going Nico
Keep Going Iran.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 AM on 07/07/2009
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You know what's odd and sad? Mention a certain tiny democracy in the Middle East, one where women, minorities and gays have rights, and you'll find thousands marching in protest and hatred...but where are the supporters and friends of the people of Iran? Where are the demonstrations, where are the supporters, where is the energy and fire on behalf of the Iranians who seek justice and equity? I find this very telling.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 AM on 07/07/2009
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Where have you been the last few weeks, my friend? List of cities:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Iranian_election_protests

That even includes a certain tiny democracy in the Middle East.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 AM on 07/07/2009
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Just watched a nice program on abc Australia
Iran - The Rebellion Network
http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 AM on 07/07/2009
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In Reza Aslan’s piece, where he also mentions the sand storms as being a perfect time for a strike, he says they’re also taking advantage of an Islamic practice:

"Monday is the start of an unusual three-day Islamic holiday called Itikaf. Sometimes translated as “seclusion” or “retreat,” Itikaf is a time when particularly pious Muslims cloister themselves inside homes or mosques for a period of intense prayer and deep spiritual reflection. It is a practice that the Iranian regime has long encouraged the country’s citizens, particularly the youth, to take part in, usually without much success."

Which, if successful, leads up to what? --

"How successful the three-day strike will be remains to be seen. It is important to note, however, that the Itikaf holiday will end on Thursday, July 9, which is 18 Tir in the Islamic calendar."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-07-06/iran-goes-on-strike/full/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 AM on 07/07/2009
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11:30 AM ET -- Tehran shut-down. Iran's state media outlets (also here) are reporting that after an emergency meeting, Tehran's pollution committee has decided to close all government agencies, schools, and factories for the next two days due to heavy pollution.

The timing of the closures seem very suspicious, coinciding with the major 10-year anniversary of the 18th Tir student protests. Several readers have noted that a national day of strike was called for the anniversary, and these pollution closures would take that action off the table.
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I've been pointing out the 18 Tir anniversary coming up. I don't for a second believe it is the actual, or at very least, only reason, but it would be disingenuous not to mention this:

http://www.payvand.com/news/09/jul/1056.html

Meaning, if it hadn't been the pollution committee, it may have been some other purported reason. The IRI probably feels very Pat Robertson about this 'serendipitous' event. That's just my take though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 AM on 07/07/2009
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Interesting. Environmentalism in the service of dictatorship. Khirad, I would be interested in jaleh's article. Where is it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 AM on 07/07/2009
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Don't need an article. Iranians are fiercely proud. They've been invaded by Arabs, Mongols, Russians; had a British/CIA coup d'état depose a democratically elected leader in favor of the Peacock Throne until 1979. In this atmosphere of such a long, inborn distrust of outside meddling, the Mullahs eventually appeared out of the power vacuum provided by the popular uprising of 1978 to assume control. This government was founded not only on purportedly Islamic values (Khomeinism has eccentricities even within Shi'a tradition), but on a vigilant 'never again' mindset. This is an attitude shared by Iranians both principalist (conservative), reform, and even the few within the IRI opposed to the very régime itself. An inchoate IRI faced efforts from groups such as MeK (which had been a rival anti-Shah Leftist group), which succeeded in assassinating IRI leaders. This backfired - led to massive purges. Then around this time, seeing Iran as weakened, Iraq invaded (with whose support?), during which we unintentionally shot down a civilian airliner.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 AM on 07/07/2009
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More recently, in the past couple years we have not-so-secretly been funneling money to terrorist groups and NGOs in hopes of destabilizing the régime. This is what makes it different than Polish Solidarity, Prague, or Hungary who were nationalistic movements themselves. While there are a few much touted pleas for us to help them, that is not in their best interest. Most on the ground know well enough that our support amounts to the kiss of death. While they will continue to spew rhetoric, and send people off to Evin, any overt (or covert) action by us would throw fuel on the fire, and in the IRI's mind, justify their actions. The less we act how they want us to act, the less we play into their hands, the better chances for the people there - now, and in for the future - should this end up another gradual chink in the IRI's undoing following 1999 and 2003. Are number one rule should be to do know harm. The upper echelons are now wresting for control of the power centers within the régime. The best move when something like this is happening is to step back, and get out of the way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 AM on 07/07/2009
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*Polish Solidarity, Prague, or Hungary who were nationalistic movements themselves (trying to oust Moscow puppet governments).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 AM on 07/07/2009
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Once again, I am so moved by the beautiful, powerful, brave women of Iran. The mothers at the jail. And, the woman calling out, pleading for god to listen as people's voices fill the night. As she says, there is no time for sleeping now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 AM on 07/07/2009
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They're a lot tougher, braver, and more noble than Pres No-Meddle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 07/07/2009
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Explain.

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'scuse me? You'all still just say that over and over without bothering to answer the question: what is it you would have the President do?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 AM on 07/07/2009
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They are amazingly strong and incredibly beautiful...as a mother, it deeply saddens me to watch them. And yet I am always lifted by their spirit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 AM on 07/07/2009
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Consider that even taking pictures of the prison gates is forbidden.

More than brave.

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