Honduras Coup: Conservatives Rally Behind "Coup For Democracy"
UN Dispatch:
The Weekly Standard calls it a "Coup for Democracy." The National Review, "A Counter-Coup." But Ciff Kincaid wins the award for most unhinged reaction to events in Honduras:
UN Dispatch:
The Weekly Standard calls it a "Coup for Democracy." The National Review, "A Counter-Coup." But Ciff Kincaid wins the award for most unhinged reaction to events in Honduras:
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Wait, wasn't the Honduran president trying to circumvent the constitution? With the backing of Castro and Chavez?
You are incorrect. Try again.
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/7/9/in_rare_us_broadcast_ousted_honduran
Just because obama and Chavez said it is an illegitimate coup, does not make it so. In Truth it was a LEGAL DEFENDING OF THEIR CONSTITUTION. Something Americans don't have the GUTS to stand up for anymore. Because Michael Jackson is so much more important. Sleeveless dresses are so much more important than our freedoms and protection of the best healthcare system in the world! Just because Biden and obama claim it is broken, does not make it so either. But Chavez is in on it...the truth is coming...obama is a tyrant, wants to be dictator, you better 'get' that point.
A military coup to overthrow a democratically elected leader is the very antithesis of democracy.
So then, naturally, American Conservatives choose to embrace it - as a triumph of democracy, no less. As predictable as night following day, Conservatives always celebrate the crushing of the will of the people.
Conservatives in this country are no more champions of democracy than Mussolini was. Their rhetoric is as false as their concern for the people of Honduras. Fortunately, their fangs are showing more and more, so that even the most oblivious of us can see them now.
Aren't these the same conservatives or their bedfellows that approved of Operation Condor and some of the most odious dictatorships in Latin America and across the world?
Leopards don't change their spots. This sort of thing is their notion of democracy. Poor deluded souls!
Professor Dr. Stanley Collymore
Konservative Koup Kooks for the Olliegarchy!
This is good for LA, we don't need another 2 bit dictator thug running another country down there, already got enough of those dolts.....
This isn't a coup, what they did is totally illegal, look at their constitution, the lie being spread that it is a coup is just stupid propaganda.....
you mean using the military to remove a president in morning hours while still in his pajamas and flying him away to another country without facing charges and having a chance to defend himself....it's a coup
A coup is illegal - otherwise, it's a revolution.
Anyway, "coup for democray" makes as much sense as "poaching for conservation ".
Conservatives don't want to lose power, but a coup is not democracy.
http://www.soaw.org --- Get the facts.
A constitutional removal of the President by the Supreme Court & an alternate appointed by the Congress in not a coup.
Article 239 of the Honduran Constitution --- Get the facts.
I wouldn't be too sure. This wouldn't be the first time a veneer of legality was given to an action that turns out not to have been motivated by good intentions and honorable conduct.
I won't argue that Zaleyas wasn't in the wrong -- he was -- but I do /not/ trust the people who pulled off his removal. They have the mark of Negroponte on them, proverbially, if you know what I mean. And if you don't, read up on an institution that used to be called the School of the Americas.
If the UN and OAS really think this ouster is a coup and they don't like how the Honduran Supreme court interpreted their constitution, then the OAS & UN ought to say to get rid of Article 239 in the Honduran Constitution and provide a legal way to impeach the President. Since there isn't impeachment articles they can right them up and force Honduras to put them in. Since we are talking about the UN & OAS as the official interpreters they might as well be the official writers too.
Pinochet for Presidente, huh?
People in Venezuela like Chavez. He has won all of his power through democratic elections. Regardless of what you think of his policies, he is popular and well-liked in his own country.
Of course they would, cause when a Republican is it should be illegal to criticize the President, but when its a Democrat its "patriotic" to advocate violent overthrow of the government
The first amendment allows for criticizing the President, regardless of party.
I think it is a bit "Bizzaro World" to make this allegation. The hate that was constantly spewing from the Left against our last President was spectacular - including advocating violence.
But then again,
War is Peace
Ignorance is Strength
Freedom is Slavery
"including advocating violence."
As in lying about WMD's and imminent threat? The bombing of innocent women and children, that kind of violence?
In Latin America the army is not "apolitical" and this coup, yes COUP proves that. All your arguments are pointless. If you do not like a politician...well then don?t vote for him! Who cares if Zelaya was a good or bad president ,a lefty or whatever, that is not the point. THAT IS WHAT VOTING IS FOR!. The OAS did the right thing, The UN did the right thing. Supporting the coup of your choice is NOT the right thing. If you can not understand this then you do not understand democracy or (you have another agenda
But not well tought. Its not a coup if they followed their constitution. That constitution is interpreted by the Honduran Supreme Court and not the OAS or the UN.
A President, when democratically elected, DOES NOT WIELD UNLIMITED POWER.
His actions are constrained by the constitution as interpreted by the Supreme Court. I think that the UN, OAS and the Obama Administration may have missed that point.
Quote from the article:most unhinged reaction to events in Honduras:
"The so-called 'military coup' in Honduras was a successful effort by Honduran patriots to preserve their constitutional system of government from an international alliance of communists and socialists backed by Iran," Kincaid wrote in a column published at aim.org. Unquote.
Sounds about like a lot of the "unhinged" comments being made here.
Yep, those athieistic communists are real cozy with those religious lunatics in Iran. Kincaid, like a lot of Republicans, needs to educate himself a bit better.
Russia has not only sold Iran the means to build nuclear reactors, but also the information needed to transform materials to nuclear weaponry. So, why do you think its silly to imagine them behind Iran??
Semper fi
First Posted: 07- 7-09 03:31 PM | Updated: 08- 7-09 05:12 AM