Obama, Putin Hold Private Talks In Russia

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STEVEN R. HURST | 07/ 7/09 09:15 PM | AP

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MOSCOW — For two days, President Barack Obama pressed the reset button with Russia. The results: He ended up getting the expected agreement on deep cuts in nuclear arsenals, but he is leaving Moscow with few assurances of Kremlin help in solving other issues key to his foreign policy agenda.

He is also leaving behind a spark he hopes will blaze to life and thaw U.S. relations with a former superpower with a chip on its shoulder. But his two days of summitry produced no unexpected breakthroughs.

Throughout the meetings and speeches, Obama stayed on message: The United States and Russia have too many overlapping interests to move through the coming decades at odds. The time for confrontational Cold War thinking is well-past. America wants Russia to be "strong, peaceful and prosperous."

He told the graduating class at Moscow's New Economic School that the United States and Russia were not "destined to be antagonists," but he predicted _ nevertheless _ hard bargaining as the two nations work to overcome a long history of estrangement.

"It is difficult to forge a lasting partnership between former adversaries. But I believe on the fundamental issues that will shape this century, Americans and Russians share common interests that form a basis for cooperation," he said.

On several issues key to Obama foreign policy, the Russians were unbending, at least for now.

_While they agreed to join the U.S. in reassessing the threat from Iran's nuclear ambitions, there was no hoped-for Kremlin offer of direct intervention with Tehran. The Russians make significant profits from arms sales to Iran and the construction a nuclear complex for electricity generation.

_On the flash point issue of Georgia, where the Russian army crushed the tiny country's military a year ago, the Kremlin rejected U.S. complaints about Russian insistence that breakaway Abkhazia and South Ossetia remain free of Georgian control. Moscow, meantime, remained angry over U.S. refusal to back away from support for Georgia's hopes to join NATO.

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After his breakfast meeting with Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, Obama told Fox News Channel "on areas where we disagree, like Georgia, I don't anticipate a meeting of the minds anytime soon."

_Nor did there appear to have been progress in the dispute over arms control. While preparing a START I replacement treaty that would cut nuclear arsenals by about one-third, Moscow and Washington remained fundamentally at odds over U.S. plans for creating a missile defense system in Eastern Europe. U.S. officials discount Russian complaints about American intentions. But Moscow was still saying the two issues must be linked or a final agreement on cutting nuclear warheads and delivery systems could be in jeopardy. Washington insists missile defense is designed to protect U.S. allies against a potential nuclear attack by Iran. The Russians say such a system would put them at a disadvantage by unbalancing offensive nuclear parity.

The two sides did agree to far greater cooperation on Afghanistan, where Obama is bolstering U.S. troop strength in the fight against Taliban militants and other al-Qaida allied groups. Part of the deal will allow the U.S. to fly, without transit charges, American troops, weapons and other lethal war materiel across Russian territory. Such U.S. overflights had been limited to non-lethal supplies for the U.S.-led NATO force in Afghanistan, a country from which Russia withdrew in defeat 20 years ago after a decade-long occupation.

Negotiators also prepared a series of side agreements and established a commission nominally headed by Obama and Russian President Dmitry Medvedev. It is designed to quicken the pace of U.S.-Russian engagement across a whole range of issues important to both countries.

In a briefing on the last day of the Obama visit, his top adviser on Russian affairs, Michael McFaul, dared reporters to find a past U.S.-Soviet summit where the two sides had dealt with so many matters of substance.

"We hit all of the dimensions of the U.S.-Russian relationship. ... That's a good start to what now begins the harder process of building this relationship in a more sustained way," McFaul said.

Obama also joined two so-called parallel summits Tuesday afternoon, one of business leaders, the other of civil society organizations. Later he met privately with political opposition figures who are under near constant pressure in Russia's atmosphere of contracting democratic protections and press freedom.

Among the group was former world chess champion Garry Kasparov, who said Obama appeared to have held his own in his talks with Russia's leaders.

"This government is not ready for a dialogue. This government has the mentality of street hoodlums. I think that after looking into Obama's eyes Putin understood that this guy won't stand any jokes."

Outside the luxury hotel where Obama met with opposition leaders, a young man held up a sign that said: "Everything changes. The KGB remains the same." The sign was ripped from his hands by police and he slipped away. Putin is a former KGB officer, as are many of the officials serving in his government.

Wednesday morning Obama heads to a G-8 summit in Italy. While there he will meet Pope Benedict XVI, before moving on to Ghana where he plans to deliver what the White House describes as a major foreign policy speech.

(This version CORRECTS spelling of Abkhazia)

MOSCOW — For two days, President Barack Obama pressed the reset button with Russia. The results: He ended up getting the expected agreement on deep cuts in nuclear arsenals, but he is leaving Mo...
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Who does this Obama person think he is? After all Premier R.A.S. Putin's grandfather was Stalin's Chef!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 AM on 07/08/2009

Putin praises Bush hospitality during Obama visit

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia's Prime Minister Vladimir Putin praised the hospitality and openness of U.S. former President George W. Bush in a telegramme sent hours before meeting his successor Barack Obama.

"During the last years we have been working on strengthening Russia-U.S. cooperation. Although there were differences between our countries, I always valued your openness and sincerity," Putin said, congratulating Bush on his 63rd birthday on July 6.

"With special warmth I recall your hospitality in the Crawford ranch and your family estate in Kennebunkport," Putin wrote, referring to their 2007 meeting at the Bush family vacation home when the two leaders went fishing and ate lobster.

Bush had said he "was able to get a sense of his soul" when he first met Putin and since then their warm rapport has helped limit the damage from a series of rows that returned ties between their administrations to chilly Cold War lows.

On Tuesday, Putin, who stepped down as president last year but remains the most influential Russian politician, invited Obama for a "Russian-style" breakfast during their first meeting at Putin's forest residence outside Moscow.

Russian agencies, quoting the government's press service, said Putin treated Obama to black caviar with sour cream, smoked beluga with pancakes and tea made in the traditional Russian samovar, a big coal-fired kettle.

http://www.reuters.com/article/reutersComService_2_MOLT/idUSTRE5661Q520090707

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 07/07/2009

Obama just can't stand up to Putin... it's pathetic. http://bit.ly/BWRYX

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 07/07/2009
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When Bush met Russian P.M. Putin
President Bush said that he saw into Putin"s soul.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1084892/posts

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 07/07/2009
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Lest we forget, the nuclear poisoning of a Russian exiled former agent turned reporter?
Lest we forget how many journalists haven't passed their flying lessons?

Why are we playing games with these guys?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 PM on 07/07/2009
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I was thinking about posting a comment, but after reading the post here, I can "not" to join in with this childish bantering. I'm almost ashamed to be an American living around you people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 07/07/2009

When he looks into Putin's eyes, Obama better see the soul that George Bush gave him because talking with the spy chief should be a walk in the park after meeting with an extraordinary felon, Director Muller, every morning. Under the same banner of fighting terror, but with the perception of absolute rule of law, our FBI has been able to get away with things that the Russian people would never swallow. Using war time powers, the terrorist surveillance program can put a conveyor belt of informants under any citizen's feet. The high standard the FBI uses is hypothetical potential of being a general threat to national security. Dick Cheney stated that he has the "legal" authority to break statutory law, in order to take any and every action to ensure national security. So when the FBI tells informants they are acting legally, it is based on the legal theory where the entire concept of rule of law is on a classified balance, that them, and the rest of American does not know about. Given that, these consensual informants can act with premeditated and hostile intent, that is perfectly synchronized to steer and derail any part of your life while leaving the perception that it was your fault, by using razor thin investigative pretenses. (continued)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 07/07/2009
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Russia is like a ferral dog. You can't make any sudden moves around it. You can't trust it. You can't ignore it. It's sneaky, skittish, it doesn't play well with others and it has sharp teeth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 07/07/2009
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And Obama caved to Putin. Was Obama afraid or just being a good socialist brother?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 PM on 07/07/2009
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"And Obama caved to Putin"

Among the group was former world chess champion Garry Kasparov, who said Obama appeared to have held his own in his talks with Russia's leaders.

"This government is not ready for a dialogue. This government has the mentality of street hoodlums. I think that after looking into Obama's eyes Putin understood that this guy won't stand any jokes."

FAIL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 PM on 07/07/2009

'Feral Dog' -Sounds a lot like a description of the USA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 07/07/2009
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you are now free to leave the country - no one is holding you here. happy trails!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 07/08/2009
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Overheard Obama to Putin, "since we are socialist brothers, how many ways may I serve you?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 07/07/2009
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Overheard burt2009 to Sarah Palin, "How may I serve you, my Queen?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 07/07/2009
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Putin is a through and through old skool K G B and does not love the US.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 07/07/2009
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He may be KGB, but he's HAWT KGB.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 07/07/2009
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They're like twin brothers

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:32 PM on 07/09/2009
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Yes, but can he see into his soul?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 07/07/2009

Putin's the real boss.
I remember he came to Maine to meet with W and the real boss.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 07/07/2009
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I read the article, and , for some reason , carly Simon's song :Anticipation " came to mind . I substituted the word manipulation instead .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 07/07/2009
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Russia's always tough. They don't like to meet and agree to much until they see how far they can move you in their direction. It's just a big chess board to them. Smiles don't mean much to them. I think Obama caught it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 07/07/2009

Too bad these talks were private. I can just imagine all the political maneuvering going on. Putin in his top chess form trying to trick Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 07/07/2009
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