Obama's Trip To Russia: The Soviet Perspective

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Huffington Post   |  Morgan Korn
First Posted: 07- 7-09 01:54 PM   |   Updated: 07- 7-09 09:35 PM

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In 48 hours President Barack Obama secured the support of an anti-nuclear proliferation treaty with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, ate breakfast with Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, addressed graduating college students at a Russian college and attended summits with Russian businessmen and opposition leaders. Politically sensitive topics such as Georgia, NATO, Iran and terrorism were discussed.

The American media regarded Obama's first-ever meeting with the Russian president a success, though not perfect. According to The New York Times, Obama upset his Russian hosts when he decided to spend his last evening in Moscow ensconced in his hotel room with his wife Michelle and two daughters.

The decision to brush off the Russians on one of his two nights here miffed some in the Moscow government who did not understand why he would not devote the scarce time to his hosts. Mr. Obama had dinner with President Dmitri A. Medvedev on Monday and lunch with him on Tuesday. But with the second dinner slot unavailable, he ended up having breakfast Tuesday with Prime Minister Vladimir V. Putin, a known night owl not given to American-style early morning business meals.

The New York Times said Obama appeared "tired" in Moscow, mispronouncing the name of Russian President Medevdez several times, in addition to incorrectly stating his youngest daughter Sasha's age and where he and Mrs. Obama first met. How did the Russian media report Obama's historic meeting? According to The Moscow Times, Russia was "indifferent" to Obama. A surprisingly large number of Russians don't even know who Obama is, reported the paper.

State pollster VTsIOM said Monday that 16 percent of Russians don't even know who Obama is. It said 36 percent are indifferent to him, 20 percent say he awakens hope, zero percent hate him and only 1 percent admire him.


Meanwhile, gay activists abandoned plans to hold an unsanctioned rally Tuesday near the U.S. Embassy, citing fears that they could not guarantee the safety of participants.

The Moscow Times published a story with a different take on Obama's visit - U.S. businesses are dovetailing the presidential summits with their own press conferences and government meetings. Deere & Co., PepsiCo and Boeing are among the many corporations drawing attention to their Russian investments and expansions.

One week prior to Obama's Russian trip, Newsweek approached politicians, human rights activists and others about what they would like to see accomplished at the summit. Here are some excerpts (for the entire article click here)

Karina Maskalenko, a lawyer for jailed billionaire Mikhail Khordorkovsky and assassinated journalist Anna Politkovskaya's family, at the European Court of Human Rights: "The independence of the entire court system in Russia is currently being tested by two major trials: the Yukos [petroleum company] case and the Khordorkovsky case. Russian President [Dmitry] Medvedev created a challenge for himself by admitting that Russia is rotten with state corruption. Does the president, a lawyer, really think that for an innocent person to be pardoned, he or she should first admit guilt? That is nothing but pure legal nihilism. We want President Obama to know the truth about Russia just as much as we want to know the truth about America's violations in its prisons. Let us be open and honest with each other, rather than turning our backs on our problems."
Garry Kasparov, chess champion and political opposition leader: "This is a unique event. The fact that political players like me, [reformer] Boris Nemtsov, and [member of the opposition] Elena Lukyanova will have a chance to meet with President Obama means it is possible to reset relations. Obama cannot change our reality in two days, but we at least expect him to stop treating us with double standards. Russia has an authoritarian regime; Obama's and Putin's values cannot have common ground. I will tell President Obama about Russia's dozens of political prisoners--opposition activists, scientists, and businessmen. We will judge him by whether or not he has a clear plan for Russia. But we wish to highlight that Russia deserves democracy."

Vladimir Frolov, president of LEFF Group, a Russian government-relations and PR company, said Obama's efforts to reform the relationship between the two countries has produced a policy challenge for the Kremlin. He writes in an OP/ED In Russia's The St. Petersburg Times:

Obama is challenging Medvedev to prove that he is interested in solving problems and not grandstanding on them. Medvedev wants Obama to show that the United States will listen to what Russia had to say. Both should be careful what they wish for.

Below is a compendium of opinions from various Russian publications:

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Gocha Dzasokhov, president of the Georgian Peoples Assembly, wrote an opinion piece in Rianovosti, a state-owned Russian news agency:

When discussing the Georgian problem, the presidents of Russia and the U.S. are bound to touch upon the issue of Abkhazia and South Ossetia's independence. We would like them to respect the opinion of the Georgian Peoples Assembly, which believes that the recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia has greatly raised the level of expectations for the Russian political elite.


It is highly important now to find an optimal balance between the security of the new Caucasian states and a political structure that would suit all those in the region.

Isvestia:

"If -- all of a sudden -- Obama had hoped for a red carpet and a crazy crowd of fans chanting something like Hollywood-style, 'We love you!', nothing of the kind was awaiting him in Moscow."

Moskovsky Komsomolets:


"Can the leopard change his spots?" Moskovsky Komsomolets asked. "America's main strategic course remains unchanged, irrespective of whoever occupies the president's chair."

Check out HuffPost's complete coverage of Obama's trip abroad.



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"The New York Times said Obama appeared "tired" in Moscow, mispronouncing the name of Russian President Medevdez several times"

it's MedvedeV, not MedvedeZ

Huffpost ironic misspelling = EPIC FAIL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 AM on 07/11/2009

Obama is just another american president.) He's much better then Bush, of course, nice guy and so forth. But - american. He came here, yep, and so what? Just another foreigner politician here in Russia. Why should we care _that_ much?)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 07/10/2009
- Winning09 I'm a Fan of Winning09 7 fans permalink

Considering that Hillary Clinton couldn't pronounce the Russian president's name when she debated Obama, and John McCain thought there is still a country called Czechoslovakia, I think only 16% of Russians not knowing who Obama is ain't bad!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 07/09/2009
- sposton I'm a Fan of sposton 163 fans permalink
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16% is probably greater than the % of Americans knowing who Obama is. ;-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 07/08/2009
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"16 percent of Russians don't even know who Obama is."

LOL! How about the Americans? 64 percent don't know who the Russian president is and only 66 percent can name their state's governor.

And this gets worse when geography is involved. 63 percent can't find Iraq or Saudi Arabia on a map, and 75 percent can't point out Iran or Israel. 44 percent can't find any one of those four countries. Even worse, only 50 percent of young Americans (18-24) can identify the state of New York on the map.

And, I forgot, one VP candidate doesn't need a map because she can see Russia from her house. Does she know who the Russian president is?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 07/08/2009
- kkent I'm a Fan of kkent 3 fans permalink

And the President of the United States doesn't even know know how many States there are!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 07/08/2009
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i like your comment. proves that all Americans care about is themselves. sad....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 PM on 07/08/2009
- AlexFTW I'm a Fan of AlexFTW 16 fans permalink
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Does anyone know who the Russian president is? Most believe Putin is still running the show.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 07/09/2009
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For a good laugh, check out the video on You Tube:

"Whom should we b o m b next?"

You'll be rollin'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 07/09/2009
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Can you sheeple ever get the nerve to question what secret deal He gave away in return for transit to A-stan? I assure you Russians did NOT give it away for free.
Whatever happened to independent spirit of Americans to question their leaders and demand answers?
baaaa....
"Panem et circenses." Eh dudes. Or in this case corn syrupus and Michael Jacksonus.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 07/08/2009
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Yesterday, I was watching the presidents at the economic forum, live on RT, while the entire Western media establishment was hung up on the Michael Jackson memorial service preparations. And yes, they seemed to cover the visit very positively.

As for the suggestions that Obama "failed to excite" people, it's really because people over there like to reserve judgment before they see results (which reveals in part why the political opposition over there needs time to mature, by the way), and everyone I saw on RT seemed pleased with the fruits of the visit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 07/08/2009
- wm1066 I'm a Fan of wm1066 33 fans permalink
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"The Soviet Perspective"??? I thought the "Soviet " era was dead in Russia.
And RT, Russia Today, the Russian TV news to the outside world has been all over the Obama visit with favorable reviews.
That 16 percent who don't know who Obama is is pretty low considering how big Russia is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 07/08/2009

Obama is going to learn the meaning of peace through strength. Putin thinks of him as an inexperienced lad. These types of leaders he is starting to encounter ignore goodwill. Bush was treated the same way by Putin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 07/08/2009
- boolala I'm a Fan of boolala 7 fans permalink

The American press (and some of the Russian press) keep reporting the reception to and results of Obama's to Moscow as lackluster. They are judging it by the size of Obama's crowds compared to Prague or the attention of the paparazzi compared to France. But I recall much of the press had the same immediate reaction to Obama's Cairo speech. Then, within weeks of that speech, Lebanon and Iran both voted for the more moderate pro-Western governments--in both cases, surprising the pundits who predicted the opposite.

I think the effects of Obama's visit will be this same kind of ripple effect. Russia Today (the English language Russian TV station) has been consistently skeptical and sometimes downright snide about Obama since he took office. Yesterday, though, they had pundits talking about how Obama's Moscow speech to the graduates was "more important than Prague or Cairo" and today they have this roundtable (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdtDtsPoBU8) in which all the pundits seem to have found Obama's visit the beginning of a major shift in relations with the potential for profound results, with benefits to both countries.

I think the American press, in their haste to form an opinion and tendency to be an echo chamber, has really jumped the gun in calling this a wash. I think he really did reset the tone and really did make headway in finding areas of common interest where Russia and the US can work together.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 AM on 07/08/2009
- miriamfl I'm a Fan of miriamfl 15 fans permalink

The Russians have never liked or trusted us much and during Bush it was real hate. If I remember correctly I was watching news about a year ago and Putin had been going through the universities trashing the US and I remember stuffed pigs in a barrell that I think said US and Bush. I don't think there is much love between our countries and they are trying to place ships off the coast of Venezuela.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 AM on 07/08/2009
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" I don't think there is much love between our countries"

Really? What happened to all the "love" between American men and Russian women? :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 07/08/2009
- AlexFTW I'm a Fan of AlexFTW 16 fans permalink
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That's what I'd like to know! Where's mine?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 AM on 07/09/2009
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'Indiffere­nt'...Ummm­..they're Russians.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 AM on 07/08/2009
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That's OK . Now that China and India are so powerful , Russia is irrelevent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 AM on 07/08/2009

You mean now that America is so weak, Russians can afford being indifferent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 AM on 07/11/2009
- mergina I'm a Fan of mergina 82 fans permalink
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That's because he is not a simple sap like bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 AM on 07/08/2009

The New York Times said Obama appeared "tired" in Moscow,

jet lag. has the NY Times never heard of jet lag? or experienced it?
the press corps sure has.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 AM on 07/08/2009
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