Sanders Takes On Emanuel, Warns Of Dem Opposition To Baucus Proposal

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First Posted: 07- 7-09 04:29 PM   |   Updated: 07- 7-09 04:54 PM

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Two major progressive voices in the health care debate took White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel to task on Tuesday for suggesting that a public option with triggers could be a potential compromise on reform.

One of those voices, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) went so far as to insist that some Senate Democrats would vote against any proposal that didn't include a strong government-run option. Even the bill being crafted by Democrats on the Senate Finance Committee, Sanders noted, might not get the caucus' full support because it could stray too far away from an effective overhaul of the health care system.

"I think that it is fair to say that there are a number of us who would not be voting for anything resembling a Baucus-type plan as we understand it right now," the senator told the Huffington Post, referring to Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus' effort at constructing a reform bill.

In separate interviews, Sanders and his fellow Vermonter, former DNC Chair Howard Dean, both took umbrage with comments Emanuel made in an interview with the Wall Street Journal that was published Monday evening. The White House chief of staff did not deviate fully from the administration's line, suggesting that all prospects for reform remained on the table. But Emanuel added something that health care operatives said they hadn't heard from the White House to date: a statement of support for a health care insurance compromise based on a public option with triggers.

The president would, hours later, issue a statement reiterating his support for a "public option that will force the insurance companies to compete and keep them honest." Progressives, fearing in part that the frame of the health care debate would be irrevocably shifted, pushed back.

"I think that a public plan with triggers is not a real public plan and it is going to be a trillion dollar failure," Dean said. "Anyone who thinks a trigger is going to lead us to a good place five years from now is wrong... It is not a sensible policy compromise."

Later in the day, Sanders offered a similarly critical reaction.

"Emanuel is dead wrong," Sanders said. "The triggers are meaningless. The American people have shown in poll after poll their contempt for private health insurance companies. They don't trust them and for good reason.

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"Now, where we are right now politically is the HELP Committee, of which I'm a member, is going to bring forth a public plan," Sanders added. "The House of Representatives is supporting a public plan. And President Obama ran for office talking about a strong public plan. Why, with that political reality of the American people wanting it, the House going forward, the Senate HELP Committee going forward, would Rahm Emanuel suggest that we would compromise on this issue?"

In private, White House officials say that Emanuel's remarks have been overplayed. His interview was with multiple papers, one administration official noted, yet only The Journal made him appear to be endorsing the trigger option, which would prohibit the implementation of a government-run option until certain economic conditions were met.

In the weeks ahead, the Senate is poised to merge the bills produced by the Finance and HELP committees -- a process that is likely to determine the reform's success. As that date approaches, the public statements from elected officials have grown much more forceful. Sanders' declaration that he and several colleagues would not be able to support the Finance Committee's proposal in its current form underscores just how volatile and sensitive the legislative process currently is.

"A plan that is dependent on regressive taxation, taxing health care benefits when Obama ran explicitly in opposition to McCain who advocated that, the idea of regressive taxation... the idea of minimal cost containment, the idea of no strong public plan, that is a Republican bill," Sanders said of the Finance Committee's early offering. "It is not a bill that I think a number of us in the Congress could support."

Not all the health care news on Tuesday revolved around legislative disagreement and policy dissension. Sanders noted that on a key parliamentary procedure, the Democratic Party was making progress.

"There is, I think, a growing awareness that it is absolutely important that now that we have 60 people in the caucus, that every member vote to end a Republican filibuster," said the senator. "So I think the strategy right now is that we will get 60 votes to defeat a Republican filibuster and come up with a strong health care reform piece of legislation which absolutely includes a strong public plan.... Sen. Dick Durbin is talking about it Sen. Chuck Schumer is talking about [corralling those 60 votes for cloture]. I think other people are talking about it as well."

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Two major progressive voices in the health care debate took White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel to task on Tuesday for suggesting that a public option with triggers could be a potential compromise...
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Bernie Sanders and Gov. Dean are men amongst men. There are but a few of the good guys in this political arena and these are two of them. Others look out for themselves and their friends. Why is Rahm Emanuel pushing a private plan? Does he have the authority to do that? Many of these advisors should keep their mouths shut.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 PM on 07/08/2009
- wxman I'm a Fan of wxman 2 fans permalink

As usual - WE ARE PROUD TO BE VERMONTERS And we have honest elected officials without the Criminal Washington element. even our Republican's are way more honest. that said seems to be getting more like the rest of country far right wing mahines have moved in and hijacked the local Republican party here

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 AM on 07/08/2009
- mlmn08 I'm a Fan of mlmn08 6 fans permalink

Thank you, Vermont for giving us Bernie Sanders. He is one of the only government officials that works for the people. Give em hell, Bernie!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 07/08/2009
- frappe I'm a Fan of frappe 204 fans permalink
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Lock up those 60 votes to stop the inevitable R filibuster. That is a fundamental and essential prerequisite. Then, all we need are 51 votes. That would make the task easier at getting a stronger public option out of the Senate.

Politicians: Remember at your own peril. The public wants, at a minimum, a STRONG PUBLIC OPTION.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 AM on 07/08/2009
- frappe I'm a Fan of frappe 204 fans permalink
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...then the DINOs can vote against it and continue to collect their stipends from the insurance industry

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 AM on 07/08/2009
- JustBNice I'm a Fan of JustBNice 31 fans permalink
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If more people were REALLY informed about how successful Single Payer Medicare type systems are in other countries more people would be pushing for a true Single Payer plan.

Getting the public educated with honest facts is a HUGE part of the problem.

The lies being told against a Single Payer plan is overwhelming and confusing and working.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 AM on 07/08/2009
- windup I'm a Fan of windup 20 fans permalink

SINGLE-PAYER Go Bernie!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 AM on 07/08/2009

If the Democrats do not do the right thing and pass legislation with a strong PUBLIC OPTION, we will pull the trigger at the polling booths in 2010.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 07/08/2009

AYE AYE Bernie, The only Senator for the people, It was a pleasure to work for your re-election campaign in 94, and it is a pleasure knowing there is one Senator who is looking out for what is good for Americans, not some vague bank owned Amerika.
Thank you Bernie.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 AM on 07/08/2009
- Wanod I'm a Fan of Wanod 4 fans permalink

Bernie Sanders for POTUS...Run Bernie Run!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 AM on 07/08/2009
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I second that nomination

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 07/08/2009
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I think Rahm's gentle push for an unpopular trigger is a Machiavellian approach to get Dems to stand up for themselves and push the real agenda, Public Healthcare. Obama has proven to be a political chess player. Don't get so caught up in the movement of the pawns.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 AM on 07/08/2009

Fair enough.But why the cynicism at the end of your comment? If you're right, he's given us the opportunity we need to unify, grab the spotlight and push our agenda. Now would therefore be the time to pick up the gauntlet and take action. Write op-eds, bring it up over drinks with your friends, make some calls...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 07/08/2009
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"Obama has proven to be a political chess player."

I keep hearing this, and frankly entertained the idea myself, however briefly....

So, for this very skeptical doubter of your assertion, could you please outline one such instance where such has proven to be the case?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 07/08/2009
- Jimbo23 I'm a Fan of Jimbo23 3 fans permalink

I've got a chess gambit example for you: How about fooling some of the biggest major banks who took bailout money into giving it right back voluntarily? He put them in a tough position by giving them the money but saying oh by the way your since you're taking our money we're going to put in some common sense regulations like executive compensation is going going to be capped and you can't lobby the government with or just waste on huge parties the public funds we the people just gave you.

Just amazing how they suddenly decided they did not really need the money but were deprived of the ability to blovate about how Obama the socialist would not give them money they so desperately needed for survival. We got our money back and they had to admit they did not really need it once the initial shock passed. That's a win for all of us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 07/08/2009
- toggan I'm a Fan of toggan 13 fans permalink

Bernie Sanders, champion of the people--one of our real leaders in Health Care Reform. Bernie we support you 100%.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 AM on 07/08/2009
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Bernie Sanders is our go to man. In another thought. This is the second week in a row the the WSJ has printed something that seems intended to stir progressives up and make us think we have problems in our ranks. Methinks they are enjoying this and we should perhaps anticipate this and then read their dubious reporting with much skepticism. I think they're playing us. Remember their salons?? What a rag.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 AM on 07/08/2009
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Sen. Sanders one of the few left with his integrity intact, striving to do the will of the people. His constituents must be so proud of him. If only the rest would take his example, this would truly be the best country in the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 AM on 07/08/2009
- deutchs I'm a Fan of deutchs 3 fans permalink
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I love him more and more with each passing day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 AM on 07/08/2009
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With insurance companies spending over a million $ a month lobbying elected officials, the health care debate comes down to a fight between those who can be bought by this greedy, corrupt and hugely wealthy industry and those who will stand up for the American people. Our form of government is democracy, not oligarchy and our elected officials owe it to their constituents not to be swayed or demoralized by this kind of legalized graft!

I was hugely disappointed to read that Rahm Emanuel seems to be counting himself among the former type of official by supporting a compromise involving "triggers" for implementing a public health insurance option. By suggesting and negotiating for such a compromise, he has placed a powerful weapon in the hands of the right wing crooks and big-busine­ss-serving sycophants.

We don't need to compromise with the Republicans! 72% of the American public favor a progressive agenda for health care!

President Obama needs to restrain the people in your administration like Emamuel who seem willing to sell us out. We need him to remain steadfast and resolute and fight for us! We need him to do the right thing for us and not give an inch to the cynical interests that would derail legislation to reform the broken health care industry. If Canada can do it, we can do it too. Barack is our ONLY hope in a sea of corruption and the politician­s-for-sale sewer that is Washington .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 AM on 07/08/2009
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Hey CC, it's not a million a month, it's a million a DAY!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 AM on 07/08/2009
- wanked I'm a Fan of wanked 9 fans permalink

1.4 million a day (probably more)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 AM on 07/08/2009

Senator Sanders and Dr. Dean are on the Ed Show talking about health care at least 2 to 3 times a week. ED. is going to Canada to find out about their health care. We will see what He has to say on their health care plan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 AM on 07/08/2009
- JustBNice I'm a Fan of JustBNice 31 fans permalink
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The people that watch the Ed Show are informed enough to know that Single Payer is the only way to go.

It's the rest of the public that needs the education. We're not reaching them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 AM on 07/08/2009
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cont'd:
Your own plan, of which I approve, would be better handled like Medicare (not Medicaid) is handled. Pay the insurers the 3-5% overhead to process the claims. I doubt they would lose all that much money, if 47 million were added to their rolls and they no longer had to spend money on advertising, weeding out those they don't want to insure, denying claims, paying lobbying money, etc. It would keep them in business long enough to market platinum plans to cover loss of use, cosmetic surgery and whatever else they can dream up.

The American public want a plan, but we are not stupid enough to think that Congress coming out and declaring, "we did it, we have a plan" is going to cut it, unless that plan is a good plan. The HELP bill as it stands, it not that plan. Furthermore, this plan will without doubt fail. But then, that may truly be the purpose of the bill. Is it?

If you believe I have misunderstood my reading of the HELP plan, I would appreciate your office clarifying this.

But if this, indeed, is what Congress stuffs down our throats, you can rest assured many of your colleagues will not be returning to Washington after their next election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 AM on 07/08/2009
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The HELP plan is the Democratic Mission Accomplished. Totally bogus. Is Sherrod Brown going to put on a flight suit the next time I see him with a mouthful of weasel words on MSNBC? What a huckster who underestimates our collective intelligence. Way to go Huffposters!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 AM on 07/08/2009
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