Zelaya, Clinton To Discuss Honduras Crisis In Washington

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FREDDY CUEVAS | 07/ 7/09 08:11 PM | AP

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Ousted Honduras' President Manuel Zelaya gestures during a press conference at the Honduran embassy in Managua, Monday, July 06, 2009. Zelaya was kept from landing in Honduras' main airport Sunday because the runway was blocked by soldiers with military vehicles. (AP Photo/Miguel Alvarez)

TEGUCIGALPA, Honduras — Showing more flexibility, Honduras' interim government on Tuesday backed the appointment of a high-profile mediator for negotiations and softened its stance on prosecuting a president ousted by a coup.

Roberto Micheletti, who took over following the June 28 coup that toppled President Manuel Zelaya and has resisted international pressure to reinstate him, applauded the announcement that Costa Rican President Oscar Arias has agreed to mediate efforts to end the standoff.

Arias "is a man with a lot of credibility in the world," Micheletti told HRN radio. "We are open to dialogue. We want to be heard."

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton announced that Arias would take part after meeting privately in Washington with Zelaya, who was seized by Honduras' army and flown out of the country after the courts and Congress accused him of violating the constitution.

Zelaya _ who flies to Costa Rica on Wednesday _ said he too has accepted Arias' appointment.

Clinton said she was "heartened" that Zelaya had agreed to the mediation and would not again try to force his way back to Honduras as he did over the weekend.

The interim Honduran leader said he would send a delegation soon to Costa Rica _ a reversal from past days, when he said he would not negotiate until "things are normal." Arias won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1987 for efforts to help end Central America's civil wars.

The meeting "doesn't mean that Zelaya will be allowed to return," Micheletti said. He later told a news conference that the dialogue with Arias should "start from the understanding that Zelaya's return is not open to negotiation."

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But overall his tone was less belligerent than in recent days, when officials promised to arrest Zelaya on charges including treason as soon as he sets foot on Honduran soil. And Supreme Court spokesman Danilo Izaguirre told The Associated Press that the government "could push for political amnesty in favor of Zelaya and others involved in the problem."

Izaguirre said that decision would be up to lawmakers and it would be for political crimes only, leaving the possibility of arrest on 18 criminal charges.

A senior U.S. official said one possible compromise would let the ousted president serve out his remaining six months in office with limited and clearly defined powers while Zelaya would drop his aspirations for a constitutional change that might allow him to run for another term. The official agreed to discuss the situation only if not quoted by name because of the sensitive nature of the diplomatic exchanges.

"The possibility of resolving the conflict is starting to form," Rodolfo Irias, a National Party congressman who formed part of a delegation that arrived in Washington, told HRN radio.

In another sign of eased tensions, civil aviation chief Alfredo San Martin said the capital's airport reopened for commercial flights on Tuesday _ reversing an earlier announcement that it would be closed until Friday.

Officials had closed the airport and blocked the runway after Zelaya attempted to fly home on Sunday and police clashed with thousands of protesters in front of the terminal. At least one person was shot to death.

Zelaya's wife, Xiomara, joined a march of about 2,000 supporters at a university in Tegucigalpa on Tuesday. She and her son have been staying at the U.S. Embassy, where she and her son, Hector, took refuge after soldiers escorted Zelaya out of the country in his pajamas.

She will be at the front of every march from now on.

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Associated Press Writers Marcos Aleman in Tegucigalpa and Matthew Lee in Washington contributed to this report.

TEGUCIGALPA, Honduras — Showing more flexibility, Honduras' interim government on Tuesday backed the appointment of a high-profile mediator for negotiations and softened its stance on prosecutin...
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- bbrecht I'm a Fan of bbrecht 18 fans permalink
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Bargaining with terrorists? End the coup now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 PM on 07/07/2009
- apduncan1 I'm a Fan of apduncan1 42 fans permalink
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How pathetic!

What they afraid of? Of a President that might or might not be re-elected?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 07/07/2009

Team Obama is handling this very smartly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 07/07/2009

I am Honduran and it's a complicated situation. Hondurans really don’t like Zelaya and truly want him out of there. But then the whole world is saying put him back in power. So it's a mess and a lose lose situation.

QUE VIVA LA REVOLUCION!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 07/07/2009
- apduncan1 I'm a Fan of apduncan1 42 fans permalink
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BS ... if Hondurans did not like him how come he was elected President?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 07/07/2009
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I have hear (take w/ grain of salt) that he ran as a liberal centrist and took a hard left turn once in office. We have had a few Presidents whose popularity tanked after the honeymoon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 07/07/2009

Zelaya was elected president through the same strategy as the rest of the Marxist thugs who are destroying Latin America. He lied, manipulated, intimidates and committed fraud, he used the CHANGE and YES WE CAN slogans, promised to “help the poor” and to do everything Hondurans could dream of. Chavez, FARC and possibly Iran paid for overwhelming media propaganda on his behalf. So Hondurans were FOOLED by a Marxist, Zelaya, much like Americans were FOOLED by another Marxist, Obama. Fortunately for Hondurans, their Legislative and Judicial branches of power were still functioning and they destituted Zelaya for his crimes agains Hondurans. The law worked in Honduras!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 07/07/2009

Its like Bush... he was elected but there was always drama..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 07/08/2009
- vinny I'm a Fan of vinny 72 fans permalink
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sounded like Zelaya was breaking the law and deserved to be removed from office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 07/07/2009
- Ramirez I'm a Fan of Ramirez 256 fans permalink
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From the Honduran Constitution:

ARTICULO 239.- El ciudadano que haya desempeñado la titularidad del Poder Ejecutivo no podrá ser Presidente o Vicepresidente de la República.

El que quebrante esta disposición o proponga su reforma, así como aquellos que lo apoyen directa o indirectamente, cesarán de inmediato en el desempeño de sus respectivos cargos y quedarán inhabilitados por diez (10) años para el ejercicio de toda función pública.
* Modificado por Decreto 299/1998.
* Modificado por Decreto 374/2002 y ratificado por Decreto 153/2003.

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Translation:

Article 239 — No citizen that has already served as head of the Executive Branch can be President or Vice-President.

Whoever violates this law or proposes its reform, as well as those that support such violation directly or indirectly, will immediately cease in their functions and will be unable to hold any public office for a period of 10 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 07/07/2009
- abouttime I'm a Fan of abouttime 21 fans permalink

Wow! Proposing reform is illegal for the President of Honduras?
So much for freedom of speach.
I support Zelaya for acting on behalf of freedom and democracy.
Hondura's Constitution MUST be changed - fascist oligarchy must be obliterated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 07/07/2009
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If you support overthowing the constitution in Honduras, don't complain about Zelaya's removal as being illegal - you can't have it both ways.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 07/07/2009
- apduncan1 I'm a Fan of apduncan1 42 fans permalink
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Indeed ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 07/07/2009
- zaz33 I'm a Fan of zaz33 32 fans permalink

It seems to me that this may be a win - win opportunity for the US. Since Honduras, like the US, has a one party system it's assured that a corporate friendly right wing government will be elected in the next election. It also appears that the referendum (opinion) to write a new constitution will not happen. This will elliminate the threat of Socialism (sharing) and guarantee the status quo.

By standing with the international community and insisting that Zelaya be returned to power the neo-liberal (free traders) Obama and Clinton can create the allusion that they support democracy. If Zelaya returns to power they win, and if the coup succeeds they win, and opens the door for more military coups against other leftist leaders in Latin America.

It will be some time before the majority poor in Honduras get the opportunity to vote for, and elect their "Chavez" unless they shut down the country like the people of Bolivia did a few years ago.

The battle between capitalism (greed) and socialism (sharing) may be lost in the US but Latin America still has the opportunity to be the beacon for Socialism for the people rather than Socialism for the privileged.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 AM on 07/07/2009
- abouttime I'm a Fan of abouttime 21 fans permalink

Agreed, but socialism is American, just that the progressives in US are determined to make socialism a better tool for helping everyone, not just the wealthy, but everyone. The US has money, but the debt has been passed down to our grandchildren, who will be enslaved unless We, the people take charge as those South have for their own families and countries.
I welcome Latin America's leadership in promoting government for the people! You are the beacon that we in the US need and support!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 PM on 07/07/2009
- Sam1234567 I'm a Fan of Sam1234567 5 fans permalink

Socialism is not American. Socialism stems from Italian/German fascism, hence "National Socialists Party".

Please try reading a history book.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 07/07/2009
- bbrecht I'm a Fan of bbrecht 18 fans permalink
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Oh so let's see... socialism is when corporations rule the country and rob the people blind-- and war = peace too,

Or an army coup = democracy

Can we have our words back please?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:03 PM on 07/07/2009
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"capitalism (greed) and socialism (sharing)"

or

"capitalism (productivity) and socialism (dependency)"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 07/07/2009
- Superb1 I'm a Fan of Superb1 5 fans permalink

I don't know how the US can support this guy. He tried to circumvent the constitution of that country by remaining in office more than his allotted term. I can imagine what would have happened if bush had tried to stay in office more than two terms. The military, the courts and everyone in power is in opposition to this thug. Obama says that the man is against US policy so why are we trying to prop him up?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 07/07/2009
- IndieBlue I'm a Fan of IndieBlue 26 fans permalink

I'm sure we would have said "thanks, but no thanks" at the ballot box, as the Hondurans could have done.
Also, it's not about propping him up, it's about supporting the democratic process in Central America... something we haven't exactly done a whole lot of in our history.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 07/07/2009
- vinny I'm a Fan of vinny 72 fans permalink
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the democratic process includes honoring the other branches of government.

note Zelaya accepted ballots from Chavez and was going to hold a national referendum w/o the consent of the people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 07/07/2009
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Dude, you're assuming the Honduran ruling elite are not corrupt, and follow the letter of the law. Since when does that ever happen down there?? You answered your own question when you said this: "The military, the courts and everyone in power is in opposition to" Zelaya. Yep, "everyone in power" is opposed to Zelaya, and you're not asking yourself if those same ones in power are truly acting in behalf of the Honduran people?!
That, my friend, is the real question.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 07/07/2009
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I am fairly sure there are no white hats in this fight, but as I understand it, the Congress is elected, and the Supreme Court is elected by the Legislature, so arguing that Zelaya has some special status in this fight because he is elected is questionable. As in the U.S., I expect that the those in charge are influenced by many forces (lobbyists, business interests, etc.), but the element that SHOULD hold the whole thing together and give some freedoms to the people is the constitution. Unfortunately, this has become about personalities and ideologies than supporting the Honduran constitution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 PM on 07/07/2009

Can someone please explain to me why the administration is supporting this guy?
Was the "coup" illegal or was it sanctioned by the Supreme Court of Honduras...thus making it constitutionally legal.
If he failed to implement 80 or so legislative laws, shouldn't he be removed by his people?
If he intended to posit a referendum for another term, is there not a constitutionally valid means of doing it? Did he follow that path? Shouldn't it be voted on? The Hondurans could have very well kicked him to the curb via the polls, no?
I am lost.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 AM on 07/07/2009
- IndieBlue I'm a Fan of IndieBlue 26 fans permalink

1. Because he's the democratically elected president of his country.
2. Any time a democratically elected leader is deposed by the military, such an act is illegal, regardless of how the country's Supreme Court feels (unless Honduras has some pretty wacky laws).
3. If he can't get his legislative agenda passed then perhaps the people of Honduras should be able to vote him out. Of course we have no such provision in our Constitution. At any rate, should the US Army be able to forcibly remove any US President for failing to get his agenda through our Congress?
4. Yes. Unclear-some say yes, some say no. It was about to be (hence the coup). Yes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 07/07/2009
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I am not sure why we are not playing the 'honest broker' in this one.
I am concerned that the administration sided with Zelaya because the UN and OAS climbed on board with him - I think the U.S. should lead, not follow.
The changes Zelaya proposed are unconsititutional (as determined by the legitimate Supreme Court) - there is no constitutional means of changing the term limits of the President.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 07/07/2009
- PR one I'm a Fan of PR one 24 fans permalink
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July 7 2009. Let's see how many times the names of the far right Boogeyman Chavez, and Castro are posted in the HuffingtonPost.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 AM on 07/07/2009
- Ira7 I'm a Fan of Ira7 10 fans permalink

Okay--I'll start:

They're not boogeyman--they're just egomaniacs and dictators who have ruined their countries. Of course, they've also meddled immensely in Honduran affairs against the wishes of the rightful admininistration, the President of which is just ONE part of.

Three cheers to Honduras, and why the Administration is supporting this guy is beyond me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 AM on 07/07/2009
- IndieBlue I'm a Fan of IndieBlue 26 fans permalink

It's not about supporting him. It's about supporting the democratic process. We shouldn't be supporting the military overthrow of (truly) democratically elected governments

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 AM on 07/07/2009
- zaz33 I'm a Fan of zaz33 32 fans permalink

Ira7 - Chavez still has an approval rating above 60% with his people.

I think Obama is at 55% now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 07/07/2009
- Shawn828 I'm a Fan of Shawn828 3 fans permalink
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They are men who tried to change the same dynamic that had been in place for decades - a connected few get to rule and draw virtually all the riches, a select few get to rise above class and get enough of the good life to say there is a path to rise up, and the great majority get ignored and blocked in efforts to better their life because they don't have the money and connections. Do thew efforts to equalize go to far on occasion? Sure. But in the same vein many of the efforts against those who try to improve themselves and those around them (union organizers, social workers, activist priests) are subject to harassment, incarceration, murder, etc. I've never forgotten the president of Guatemala being called a good man when he was directing a campaign of geneocide against the indigenous population.

Chavez and Castro are only two men. They don't lead Bolivia, Colombia, Argentina, Peru, El Salvador, Chile, etc. These nations have called it a coup, and they should know better than anyone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 PM on 07/07/2009
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