Biden, Hospital Leaders Announce Pact To Help Cover Uninsured

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DAVID ESPO and ERICA WERNER | July 8, 2009 09:36 PM EST | AP

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Vice President Joe Biden speaks about a White House deal with hospitals to help pay for President Barack Obama's overhaul of health care, Wednesday, July 8, 2009, in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building in Washington. At left is Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius. (AP Photo/Ron Edmonds)

WASHINGTON — An income tax surcharge on highly paid Americans emerged as the leading option Wednesday night as House Democrats sought ways to pay for health care legislation that President Barack Obama favors, several officials said.

As discussed in the tax-writing House Ways and Means Committee, the surtax would apply to individuals with adjusted gross income of more than $200,000 and couples over $250,000, they added.

In addition, key lawmakers are expected to call for a tax or fee equal to a percentage of a worker's salary on employers who do not offer health benefits.

Rep. Shelley Berkley, D-Nev., a member of the panel, said the proposed surtax on high-income taxpayers appealed to her and others as a way to avoid a "nickel-and-dime" approach involving numerous smaller tax increases. She added that other earlier options had fallen away, including an increase in the payroll tax.

Berkley and others cautioned that no final decisions have been made, either by the tax-writing committee or by the Democratic leadership, which hopes to have legislation drafted by Friday and through the House by month's end.

Aside from Berkley, officials discussed the private discussions only on condition of anonymity.

The developments stood in contrast to the Senate, where Democrats edged away from their goal of passing ambitious health care legislation by early August amid heightening partisan controversy over tax increases and a proposed new government role in providing insurance to consumers.

"I think the ultimate goal is to have a bill by the end of this year" that is signed into law by the president, Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., said in an interview with The Associated Press. He said Democrats would make "every effort to stick to the timetable" that included initial Senate action by August.

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Separately, Republicans who met with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said he expressed flexibility on the timetable, indicating he was willing to allow more time before legislation is brought to the floor.

The evident slippage coincided with a formal announcement that the nation's hospitals had agreed to give up $155 billion in projected Medicare and Medicaid payments over the next decade, money than can help defray the cost of the legislation the administration wants.

"Folks, reform is coming. It is on track," Biden said at the White House, urging the Senate to enact legislation by the now-imperiled August goal.

Any failure to meet the goal would be a setback _ but not necessarily a fatal one _ for Obama's attempt to win legislation this year that both slows the growth in health care costs and extends coverage to nearly 50 million Americans who now lack it.

Senior administration officials, including White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, met with Democrats on the Ways and Means Committee as lawmakers narrowed their options.

Officials who spoke on condition of anonymity said other, smaller tax options remained possibilities, depending on the overall cost of the legislation. A few lawmakers are still seeking a tax on soft drinks in the private discussions, and there has been discussion of removing the current tax break that drug companies receive for advertising.

The White House expressed its support for another part of the emerging House legislation, noting that the Congressional Budget Office had said planned changes to Medicare would save more than $500 billion over 10 years. A significant part of that money would come from the steep reduction in subsidies paid to insurance companies that offer private Medicare coverage.

But in a letter to key committee chairmen, Budget Director Peter Orszag urged additional cuts in projected Medicare and Medicaid spending, as well as consideration of a plan to give an independent commission a greater role in setting future payments rates for Medicare health care providers.

Controversy dogged efforts in the House, as well, when Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., said he had been assured by the administration that it was not bound by an $80 billion agreement with the pharmaceutical industry that Obama announced with fanfare at the White House last month.

Waxman, chairman of one of three committees with responsibility for the House legislation, did not say if the same were true of the deal with hospitals. He was interviewed by National Journal magazine.

Across the Capitol, it seemed clear the drive to enact health care legislation was entering a new phase in the Senate, where attention has largely been focused for months on efforts by Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., to forge a bipartisan agreement within the Finance Committee he chairs.

On Tuesday, the Senate Democratic leadership made it clear it viewed a proposed tax on certain health care benefits as unacceptable, at the same time it relayed word that it favors allowing the government to sell insurance to consumers.

Both those positions appeared to undercut much of the work Baucus has been doing. He has said for weeks that any legislation would call for a tax on certain health care benefits, and Republicans are strongly opposed to the idea of government intervention in the private insurance industry.

Baucus told reporters during the day he was "very sensitive to the various concerns that senators have" on taxing benefits, yet added that "by far a better approach is a bipartisan approach."

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Associated Press writers Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar and Alan Fram contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — An income tax surcharge on highly paid Americans emerged as the leading option Wednesday night as House Democrats sought ways to pay for health care legislation that President Barac...
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- youngat80 I'm a Fan of youngat80 9 fans permalink

Each month my Social Security benefit check is reduced about $145.00 to pay for Medicare medical insurance and Medicare prescription drug plan. The prescription drug Plan D is paid to a for-profit insurance company but the government has designated all the details of the policy.
I also pay about $3400. annually for a medicare supplement to a for-profit insurance company that pays the 20% difference between what medicare pays and what medicare approves.
My husband's health care insurance is nearly the same.
We do not have dental insurance, and can afford to see the dentist about every 5 years. Medicare and our supplemental insurance paid for cataract removal and lens implant for my husband last year. Otherwise, eyeglasses are not covered.
I think the best solution to health care needs is for Medicare to offer health care to anyone who pays a premium for the service. That should not cost the exorbinant price we are now paying for limited service. Removing the restrictions on drugs purchased from other countries should cut our drug costs by at least 40%. Restricting advertising of medicines to the general population is another way to cut costs drastically.
Quit trying to figure out how to tax someone else for health care. Call the cost 'premiums' and let the individuals who use the system pay for it. For those living on the poverty level, take the cap off earnings of those paying into medicare.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 07/09/2009

What a shell game.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 07/08/2009
- toggan I'm a Fan of toggan 14 fans permalink

They want to delay legislation until the pressure groups lose steam and influence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 PM on 07/08/2009
- Firbolg I'm a Fan of Firbolg 38 fans permalink
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Or is it that they hoped that everyone in the industry would come to the rescue? PhRMA came up with $80b over 10 years and then hospitals put $155b on the table. Never mind that its out of the pockets of seniors and the poor because its all pretend money anyway. It’s the thought that counts, right?
So now they are waiting for the insurance companies to dream up something and the stage will be set. Insurance carriers could trump PhRMA and the hospitals combined by sacking one CEO. Now that’s a plan I could go for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 07/08/2009

I recognize that my last post could have been a bit misleading. The concept is however correctly. In determining hospital rates, hospitals do calculate expected losses as part of overhead against which rates are then established. Accordingly as the number of uninsured has gone up, and therefore charges which cannot be paid, rates are determined to cover them. Not only that, I have even seen instances when insurance companies overpaid hospital charges due to errors in billing and the hospital never bothered to refund the money to the insurance company. It is all rather unsavory.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 07/08/2009
- wesinohio I'm a Fan of wesinohio 36 fans permalink
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Resolutions to systemic problems won't happen immediately, but good changes are in the offing. I'm happy that our country is now moving in a better direction.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 07/08/2009
- Palemoon I'm a Fan of Palemoon 152 fans permalink
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This is quickly turning into one of the biggest farce's ever!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 07/08/2009

Certainly beginning to rival the last election

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 07/08/2009
- gfm975 I'm a Fan of gfm975 3 fans permalink

This is bullcrap. They can't do anything without giving us different deadlines and a million excuses. They all need to be removed from office... they aren't working for the people, they're all on the take to lobbyists!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 07/08/2009
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I agree. Michael Moore should do a new documentary and expose on Congress. The majority of them are really greedy and unethical. And those that are not..are marginalized by the other legislators.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 07/08/2009
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Spot on! Nobody could do it better.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 07/08/2009
- quidam56 I'm a Fan of quidam56 5 fans permalink

As a former health care giver, I am shocked to see what is called quality health care now in Tennessee and Virginia. http://www.wisecountyissues.com/?p=62 Clearly profit care is more important than patient care.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 07/08/2009

Don't worry about it, Ogumbi will fix it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 07/08/2009
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TWITTER :
HR 676: Single Payer Guaranteed Healthcare

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 07/08/2009

Single payer health care is the most economical. It eliminates the miriad of paper work required by insurance companies for doctors, hospitals, labs, testing facilities, MRI labs-the list goes on . Insurance companies had an increast in profit of over 1080% in the last five years alone. The explantion earlier of how hospital bills are tabulated to cover the cost of the uninsured when we get our bills is right on. That would be eliminated as well, so cost would go down. The only way the people of this country will ever get good medical care with complete coverage, with no refusals because of pre-existing conditions is to completely eliminate the for-profit insurance industry. They work in tandem with pharmaceutical companies here setting drug pricing as well. Anyone who has gone to a pharmacy in a country with single payer care has seen how much more we are paying for pharmaceuticals here. And their health care is very good or they would not be living longer than us or have less infant mortality rates than here. As for taxes- we have more millionaires now than any time in our history. Yet their tax rates are also lower than almost anytime in our history. Check tax rates for higher income brackets during era's when the middle class and the economy was doing well -the tax rate for them was much higher than today. . Catastrophic illness can hit anyone at any time, and is the biggest reason for bankruptsy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 07/11/2009
- WoodyCPM I'm a Fan of WoodyCPM 71 fans permalink

People need to be ready to take to the streets, if and when Congress fails to deliver on a meaningful, workable public option in any health care reform bill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 07/08/2009

Yep!

(I've already started stockpiling cheap petrol for the trip...you just know the price of gas will inexplicably go up if they think tens of thousands of protesters are driving to D.C.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 PM on 07/08/2009
- Bitsko I'm a Fan of Bitsko 480 fans permalink
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Since when did politicians ever get anything right the first time? Good policy takes time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 07/08/2009

how much time in your estimation? this will be the mantra trotted out for the hoped for second term.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 07/08/2009

Among the first Presidents to try to get public health care changed were Roosevelt and Truman. That's enough time, doncha think? They KNOW how to do it- they just need to get the damn lobbyist and for-profit insurance and other for-profit out of the mix, their pockets and the writing of the legislation. And enough of the public behind them raising hell to make them do it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 PM on 07/11/2009
- sosi I'm a Fan of sosi 8 fans permalink
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WH on course to sell US short: Health Deals Could Harbor Hidden Costs
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/08/health/policy/08health.html?hp

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 07/08/2009
- LeeCalif I'm a Fan of LeeCalif 65 fans permalink

This is NOT PUBLIC CHOICE !!!

It is a huge deal with private insurers, who would not agree to it without a big profit.

We are being sold out !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 07/08/2009




Feh...you sound shocked.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 07/08/2009

As an uninsured American with recurrent malignant brain tumor, a diagnosis not sufficiently "bad" to get exempted from NY State's current managed care program, and as someone who might - right now! - have to endure a fourth brain surgery and whatever else, I've decided to swallow my pride and go not only for full-on Medicare, but disability, too! Health insurance costs for the same diagnosis are astronomical. I have suffered enough already and might be on the verge of more suffering. So, you know, right now, I'm thinking, "screw it!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 07/08/2009

My heart goes out to you...fighting a recurring tumor is bad enough...you shouldn't be forced to fight the g.d. corporate medical establishment as well. Good luck.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 07/08/2009

make a wish

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 07/08/2009
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