California Stations Reject Ad Calling For Pot Legalization

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First Posted: 07- 8-09 07:02 AM   |   Updated: 08- 8-09 05:12 AM

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Three television stations in San Francisco and Los Angeles have rejected an ad promoting the legalization and taxation of marijuana, set to run on consenting stations and cable networks in the state beginning Wednesday.

Two ABC affiliates joined one NBC station in the decision to reject the spots. California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, meanwhile, has called for a debate on legalizing marijuana.

"I think it's time for a debate," he said in May. "And I think that we ought to study very carefully what other countries are doing that have legalized marijuana and other drugs, what affect it had on those countries, and are they happy with that decision."

KABC in Los Angeles and KGO and KNTV in San Francisco apparently aren't interested in such a debate. "How can you debate it if they won't air both sides?" wondered Bruce Mirken, a spokesman for the Marijuana Policy Project, which is behind the ad buy that he called "modest but not trivial."

The ad will still be seen on other Bay Area and L.A. stations as well as in San Diego, Fresno, Santa Barbara, Sacramento and elsewhere in the state. "We haven't had any problem with cable, so one way or another we're going ahead," said Mirken.

The respective station managers did not return calls requesting an explanation as to why the ads were rejected.

"Standards rejected the spot. Unfortunately we will not be able to run the creative," wrote Michael Friedman of KNTV, the NBC affiliate in San Francisco, to an MPP representative. Friedman didn't return a call.

At KABC in L.A., the ad was rejected for purportedly encouraging marijuana smoking. Mirken spoke to station manager Arnie Kleiner, who didn't return a call from the Huffington Post. "His feeling wasn't that the ad was promoting a change in the law, but that it was promoting marijuana smoking," said Mirken, adding that Kleiner told him, "I'm not going to advocate the smoking of marijuana. Marijuana is illegal."

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The ad makes the case that it shouldn't be. Instead of criminalizing marijuana, it should be taxed to help ease the state government's budget crisis, says a woman in the spot.

"The governor and the legislature are ignoring millions of Californians who want to pay taxes," says the woman. "We're marijuana consumers. Instead of being treated like criminals for using a substance safer than alcohol, we want to pay our fair share."

State Assemblyman Tom Ammiano of San Francisco has introduced a bill that would legalize, tax and regulate marijuana and there is a possibility voters may be asked to weigh in through a 2010 ballot proposition.

Taxing pot could pay for 20,000 teacher salaries per year, the ad claims, by raising $1.3 billion. The source of the revenue figure is Betty Yee, chairwoman of the State Board of Equalization, which oversees taxation.

One way to estimate the revenue that could come in the future from pot is to look at the tax stream that's already flowing thanks to legalized medical marijuana. In the fall of 2006, California clarified to its cannabis dispensaries that they were, in fact, responsible for paying its 7.25 percent sales tax, and had been since 2005. (Depending on the jurisdiction, some clubs are also required to add on a bit for local and county taxes.) Some club owners, backed by Americans for Safe Access, an industry advocacy group, had argued that, as quasi-pharmacies, their businesses were exempt, a line of reasoning dismissed by the state. Others, such as Steve DeAngelo, co-owner of Oakland's Harborside Health Center initially opposed the tax but came to support it, arguing that the perennially underfunded state would get addicted to the tax dollars generated by its pot clubs.

Harborside is charged an 8.75 percent tax, including the local tack-on. With revenue of around $1 million per month, its annual sales-tax bill comes in at something like $875,000 per year. And that's just one shop. Yee told me that there's no way to break out exactly how much money the state is getting from pot clubs because it doesn't require them to state on their tax forms what product they sell. ("Regardless of legal status, anyone can get a seller's permit," she explained.)

However, she did release the tax records of some clubs that had been raided by the federal government, noting that because they employed sizable numbers of people, they also paid state and federal income and payroll taxes. The Compassion Center, licensed by Alameda County, paid $3 million before being shuttered in October 2007 by the DEA. Nature's Medicinal, licensed by Kern Country, paid close to $1 million in 2007, which included $203,000 in state and federal income taxes, $365,000 in payroll taxes, and $427,000 in sales taxes. The Compassion Center employed and provided health benefits to fifty people; Nature's Medicinal twenty-five. (The demise of the latter wasn't universally deplored by the medical-pot community, however: It's alleged affinity for high-powered weaponry didn't jibe with the pacifist vibe the industry espouses.)

Focusing merely on the sales tax misses the broader effect on the treasury, as employees in the expanding industry themselves cough up payroll and other taxes. In the case of Nature's Medicinal, sales tax made up 42 percent of total taxes paid.

Even if that estimate is wildly overblown, the state is clearly already enjoying the tax money it gets from marijuana: a special notice sent to clubs by the Board of Equalization assured sellers they "may decline to provide information on products sold due to concerns about self-incrimination."

A November 2006 report by the City of Oakland's Measure Z Oversight Committee came up with similar figures. It estimated that Californians consume between $870 million and $2 billion in medical marijuana per year, generating sales-tax revenue between $70 million and $120 million. In 2004, when Oakland's clubs were thriving, it took in, according to city records, $2.3 million in taxes on more than $26 million in revenue. As the feds swept through, that dropped, in 2006, to just $477,000 in taxes on $5.5 million in revenue. Two million dollars pulled from an annual city budget of about $900 million isn't exactly spare change.

Expanding the taxation from medical marijuana to everyone would yield hundreds of millions of dollars more. The National Survey on Drug Use and Health reports that some two million Californians smoked marijuana in the last month. Given that it's a federal-government survey asking people about illegal behavior, the number could be a gross underestimate.
The effort to provide the state government with pot-tax revenue has been a risky one for all involved, but Obama's Justice Department has announced that it will not raid pot clubs that operate within state laws. That wasn't the case under President Bush.

Harborside opened the center in October 2006, on a day that three other clubs in the Bay Area were raided. "We had to decide in that moment whether or not we were really serious about this and whether we were willing to risk arrest for it," said DeAngelo. "And we decided we were gonna open our doors. And we did, and we haven't looked back since. The only way I'll stop doing what I'm doing is if they drag me away in chains. And as soon as they let me out, I'll be back doing it again."

The latter half of this article is adapted from Ryan Grim's new book, This Is Your country On Drugs: The Secret History of Getting High in America. He'll be reading Wednesday evening in New York at The Tank.

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- kindGSL I'm a Fan of kindGSL 15 fans permalink
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We are discriminated against based on race and religion. It is an absolute fact.

For example, the bible verse Exodus 22:18, Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

Look up the book, "Marijuana - The First Twelve Thousand Years" and read about it. You are the one who is not serious, I am very serious.

Here is a link for the book,

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/hemp/history/first12000/abel.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 07/08/2009
- opticsopen I'm a Fan of opticsopen 7 fans permalink

With California's State economic problems the additional tax revenue would have been a big help. So I guess Arnie will have to look to other avenues. May I suggest additional taxes on TV stations?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 07/08/2009

I live in Oakland, CA where marijuana has been essentially decriminalized. A few years ago voters voted to make marijuana-related offenses the lowest priority for our Oakland police force - below jaywalking. This frees up our much-needed police force to focus on other matters that plague our city.

I honestly don't know what all the fuss is about, as stated in the ad, marijuana is safer than alcohol. As my husband says - when was the last time you heard of a guy getting so stoned he went home and beat his wife?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 07/08/2009
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Green Jobs? This is change I can believe in!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 PM on 07/08/2009

Why are people so afraid of something so silly. It's not that big of a deal, why can't people grow up? You drink your beer and watch tv, I'll smoke weed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 07/08/2009
- devildog21 I'm a Fan of devildog21 38 fans permalink

It's ironic that even some police agencies are in favor of legalization. When you consider the turn-around of dollars from wasted on ineffective enforcement, to licensing, sales, taxes, etc., it boggles the mind.

You would think that we learned a lesson from our prohibition years, wouldn't you?

You would be wrong...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 07/08/2009
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The refusal of the networks to air a political ad supporting a bill currently in the Assembly is the result of anti-marijuana bigotry. Marijuana use is a personal choice just like sexual orientation. Keeping pot illegal is an abrogation of our basic human rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

If you want marijuana to be legalized, taxed, and regulated for adults, YOU can make it happen. Tell your legislators to support California Assembly Bill 390. It's easy. Visit yes390.org

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 07/08/2009

Sexual orientation is not very widely considered a "personal choice" and cannot be compared to homosexuality in this manner. A lot of people love pot, but stoners haven't gone through nearly the persecution that homosexuals have. If decriminalization advocates insist on using these hyperbolic false analogies then we don't deserve to be taken seriously.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 07/08/2009

Oops, i meant, pharmaceuticals.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 PM on 07/08/2009
- kindGSL I'm a Fan of kindGSL 15 fans permalink
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It is a religious prohibition.

"stoners haven't gone through nearly the persecution that homosexuals have"

Not true, how many people are in jail right now for gay sex?

Pot?

I think we religious users of marijuana (stoners) are being persecuted a lot more than gays are. Gays don't get arrested or lose their homes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 07/08/2009
- Tazru I'm a Fan of Tazru 64 fans permalink
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Let's have an oppression measuring contest!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 07/08/2009

The President isn't helping the cause by laughing off questions regarding the economic benefits of legalization.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 PM on 07/08/2009
- wadda I'm a Fan of wadda 4 fans permalink

Sure, the legalization and taxation of pot could pay the salaries of 20,000 teachers; but think of how many prison guards would be out of work. In fact it would be hard on the entire prison industry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 PM on 07/08/2009

That's rediculous. It would help to unclog the jails and prisons. The fact that there are so many non-violent drug offenders within the system, causes repeat, violent offenders to be released before they serve their entire sentences. LA County Jail has been a perfect example of that problem for decades.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 07/08/2009
- Tazru I'm a Fan of Tazru 64 fans permalink
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I do not see that as a problem, they could be retrained to do something useful to society. Perhaps I should have said rehabilitated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 07/08/2009

They wouldn't need to be retrained because wadda posted an opinion that is not based on reality. wadda seems to think that non-violent marijuana offenders is what keeps the prison systems running. That is a rediculous notion in which wadda cannot offer any evidence that backs that statement up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 07/08/2009
- iskra I'm a Fan of iskra 130 fans permalink
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Wait, you forgot all the police gear, guns, spy gear, helicopters and other cool stuff the police and DEA get to buy. You would be impacting those industries as well and I'm sure they all buy American.

And don't forget big Pharm. Everything from drug testing kits to pain killers would lose out.

Are you trying to destroy an entire economy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 07/08/2009
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Thats not a true economy it is based on debt, meaning we buy the Helicopters and the gear putting us more in debt. Marijuana is a true economy meaning we make real jobs private sector jobs not goverment jobs that produce no profit but to raid state coffers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 07/08/2009
- kindGSL I'm a Fan of kindGSL 15 fans permalink
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You are talking about job growth in the Bush 43 White House. That was it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 07/08/2009
- iblogleft I'm a Fan of iblogleft 86 fans permalink
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The "war on humanity" economy? Absolutely.

It would not eliminate jobs, it would in fact, replace bad jobs with good ones.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 07/08/2009
- alohaz I'm a Fan of alohaz 15 fans permalink
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Maybe we should have more oil spills off the coast. We sure wouldn't those California otter scrubbers to go belly up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 07/08/2009
- MerhabaAbi I'm a Fan of MerhabaAbi 11 fans permalink

True. Incarceration is a for profit enterprise. Not to mention, if smokers aren't prosecuted, you can't take away their voting rights. I don't see Republicans laying down on this one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 07/08/2009
- mirza I'm a Fan of mirza 10 fans permalink

freedom of speech issue----public airwaves

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 PM on 07/08/2009

ABC and NBC can do whatever they want. It only becomes a freedom of speech issue if there's a law against airing legalization advocacy ads.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 07/08/2009

Exactly...There response to you would be that you have the freedom to start your own station.

By the way, nothing is truly free without regulation. There are federal laws that dictate what and when things can and cannot be said or displayed by the media. Just like our right to bare arms is regulated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 07/08/2009
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What was so bad about that commercial, I have seen far worse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 07/08/2009
- kindGSL I'm a Fan of kindGSL 15 fans permalink
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I'm wondering why I keep answering you and it doesn't get posted.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 07/08/2009
- kindGSL I'm a Fan of kindGSL 15 fans permalink
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The woman doesn't look stupid enough to fit their idea of a pothead, they would only run it if she looked lame and stupid because that is the stereotype they are apparently looking for.

This is the fourth time I have tried to rewrite this message to you. Huffpost has some big 'issue' with this idea for some unknown reason.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 07/08/2009
- iplaw I'm a Fan of iplaw 28 fans permalink

Republican Hypocrisy. They say they want government to stay out of our lives, except for what we smoke and who we sleep with. I think recreational pot smoking makes people stupid, but who am I to tell other people what they can do for fun?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 07/08/2009
- PengieP I'm a Fan of PengieP 5 fans permalink
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I agree, smoking pot makes you stupid. Thus it's amazing that Republicans would oppose legalizing pot since it would be likely to to generate more stupid people and thus more Republicans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 07/08/2009
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No, listening to unsubstantiated comments makes you stupid. Pot just makes you lazy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 07/08/2009
- Tazru I'm a Fan of Tazru 64 fans permalink
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Are you sure that is what you are smoking?

I better warn all my friends and the members of my Astronomy Club!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 07/08/2009
- kindGSL I'm a Fan of kindGSL 15 fans permalink
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It makes YOU stupid.

For me it just helps me calm down. I am not a bit stupid and I resent you saying I am.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 07/08/2009
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The right strain of pot is actually a great antidepressant but, BigPharma doesn't want you to know it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 07/08/2009

When there is no logical reasoning behind certain laws and policies then there are certainly entrenched interests in place. I just love seeing the explanations for why pot shouldn't be legalized from police officers, pharmaceutical companies, etc. If they gave their true reasons for not wanting pot legalized they would be laughed at or dismissed outright.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 07/08/2009
- kindGSL I'm a Fan of kindGSL 15 fans permalink
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Real reason = asset forfeiture

It is ethnic cleansing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 07/08/2009
- kindGSL I'm a Fan of kindGSL 15 fans permalink
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Real reason = asset forfeiture

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 07/08/2009
- iplaw I'm a Fan of iplaw 28 fans permalink

Real free speech is only for those in power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 PM on 07/08/2009

When Bill Maher lost his show on ABC he said something to the effect of; We have freedom of speech; But watch what you say.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 07/08/2009
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if KGO is the only one 'abstaining', so to speak, then i would guess that means that the other three or four stations are running it - ktvu, kpix, kron and kntv.

that seems to me a fair representation of society's stance on legalizing. one in every four or five people is an uptight square about it.

we're getting there. great series, ryan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 07/08/2009
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HAH

KPIX/CBS is the only bay area station airing the ad.

oh, well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 AM on 07/09/2009
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