California Stations Reject Ad Calling For Pot Legalization

digg Share this on Facebook Huffpost - California Stations Reject Ad Calling For Pot Legalization stumble reddit del.ico.us RSS


First Posted: 07- 8-09 07:02 AM   |   Updated: 08- 8-09 05:12 AM

I Like ItI Don’t Like It
Marijuana

Three television stations in San Francisco and Los Angeles have rejected an ad promoting the legalization and taxation of marijuana, set to run on consenting stations and cable networks in the state beginning Wednesday.

Two ABC affiliates joined one NBC station in the decision to reject the spots. California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, meanwhile, has called for a debate on legalizing marijuana.

"I think it's time for a debate," he said in May. "And I think that we ought to study very carefully what other countries are doing that have legalized marijuana and other drugs, what affect it had on those countries, and are they happy with that decision."

KABC in Los Angeles and KGO and KNTV in San Francisco apparently aren't interested in such a debate. "How can you debate it if they won't air both sides?" wondered Bruce Mirken, a spokesman for the Marijuana Policy Project, which is behind the ad buy that he called "modest but not trivial."

The ad will still be seen on other Bay Area and L.A. stations as well as in San Diego, Fresno, Santa Barbara, Sacramento and elsewhere in the state. "We haven't had any problem with cable, so one way or another we're going ahead," said Mirken.

The respective station managers did not return calls requesting an explanation as to why the ads were rejected.

"Standards rejected the spot. Unfortunately we will not be able to run the creative," wrote Michael Friedman of KNTV, the NBC affiliate in San Francisco, to an MPP representative. Friedman didn't return a call.

At KABC in L.A., the ad was rejected for purportedly encouraging marijuana smoking. Mirken spoke to station manager Arnie Kleiner, who didn't return a call from the Huffington Post. "His feeling wasn't that the ad was promoting a change in the law, but that it was promoting marijuana smoking," said Mirken, adding that Kleiner told him, "I'm not going to advocate the smoking of marijuana. Marijuana is illegal."

Story continues below

The ad makes the case that it shouldn't be. Instead of criminalizing marijuana, it should be taxed to help ease the state government's budget crisis, says a woman in the spot.

"The governor and the legislature are ignoring millions of Californians who want to pay taxes," says the woman. "We're marijuana consumers. Instead of being treated like criminals for using a substance safer than alcohol, we want to pay our fair share."

State Assemblyman Tom Ammiano of San Francisco has introduced a bill that would legalize, tax and regulate marijuana and there is a possibility voters may be asked to weigh in through a 2010 ballot proposition.

Taxing pot could pay for 20,000 teacher salaries per year, the ad claims, by raising $1.3 billion. The source of the revenue figure is Betty Yee, chairwoman of the State Board of Equalization, which oversees taxation.

One way to estimate the revenue that could come in the future from pot is to look at the tax stream that's already flowing thanks to legalized medical marijuana. In the fall of 2006, California clarified to its cannabis dispensaries that they were, in fact, responsible for paying its 7.25 percent sales tax, and had been since 2005. (Depending on the jurisdiction, some clubs are also required to add on a bit for local and county taxes.) Some club owners, backed by Americans for Safe Access, an industry advocacy group, had argued that, as quasi-pharmacies, their businesses were exempt, a line of reasoning dismissed by the state. Others, such as Steve DeAngelo, co-owner of Oakland's Harborside Health Center initially opposed the tax but came to support it, arguing that the perennially underfunded state would get addicted to the tax dollars generated by its pot clubs.

Harborside is charged an 8.75 percent tax, including the local tack-on. With revenue of around $1 million per month, its annual sales-tax bill comes in at something like $875,000 per year. And that's just one shop. Yee told me that there's no way to break out exactly how much money the state is getting from pot clubs because it doesn't require them to state on their tax forms what product they sell. ("Regardless of legal status, anyone can get a seller's permit," she explained.)

However, she did release the tax records of some clubs that had been raided by the federal government, noting that because they employed sizable numbers of people, they also paid state and federal income and payroll taxes. The Compassion Center, licensed by Alameda County, paid $3 million before being shuttered in October 2007 by the DEA. Nature's Medicinal, licensed by Kern Country, paid close to $1 million in 2007, which included $203,000 in state and federal income taxes, $365,000 in payroll taxes, and $427,000 in sales taxes. The Compassion Center employed and provided health benefits to fifty people; Nature's Medicinal twenty-five. (The demise of the latter wasn't universally deplored by the medical-pot community, however: It's alleged affinity for high-powered weaponry didn't jibe with the pacifist vibe the industry espouses.)

Focusing merely on the sales tax misses the broader effect on the treasury, as employees in the expanding industry themselves cough up payroll and other taxes. In the case of Nature's Medicinal, sales tax made up 42 percent of total taxes paid.

Even if that estimate is wildly overblown, the state is clearly already enjoying the tax money it gets from marijuana: a special notice sent to clubs by the Board of Equalization assured sellers they "may decline to provide information on products sold due to concerns about self-incrimination."

A November 2006 report by the City of Oakland's Measure Z Oversight Committee came up with similar figures. It estimated that Californians consume between $870 million and $2 billion in medical marijuana per year, generating sales-tax revenue between $70 million and $120 million. In 2004, when Oakland's clubs were thriving, it took in, according to city records, $2.3 million in taxes on more than $26 million in revenue. As the feds swept through, that dropped, in 2006, to just $477,000 in taxes on $5.5 million in revenue. Two million dollars pulled from an annual city budget of about $900 million isn't exactly spare change.

Expanding the taxation from medical marijuana to everyone would yield hundreds of millions of dollars more. The National Survey on Drug Use and Health reports that some two million Californians smoked marijuana in the last month. Given that it's a federal-government survey asking people about illegal behavior, the number could be a gross underestimate.
The effort to provide the state government with pot-tax revenue has been a risky one for all involved, but Obama's Justice Department has announced that it will not raid pot clubs that operate within state laws. That wasn't the case under President Bush.

Harborside opened the center in October 2006, on a day that three other clubs in the Bay Area were raided. "We had to decide in that moment whether or not we were really serious about this and whether we were willing to risk arrest for it," said DeAngelo. "And we decided we were gonna open our doors. And we did, and we haven't looked back since. The only way I'll stop doing what I'm doing is if they drag me away in chains. And as soon as they let me out, I'll be back doing it again."

The latter half of this article is adapted from Ryan Grim's new book, This Is Your country On Drugs: The Secret History of Getting High in America. He'll be reading Wednesday evening in New York at The Tank.

Three television stations in San Francisco and Los Angeles have rejected an ad promoting the legalization and taxation of marijuana, set to run on consenting stations and cable networks in the state b...
Three television stations in San Francisco and Los Angeles have rejected an ad promoting the legalization and taxation of marijuana, set to run on consenting stations and cable networks in the state b...
Report Corrections
 
Comments
163
Pending Comments
0
iPhone App Promo

Want to reply to a comment? Hint: Click "Reply" at the bottom of the comment; after being approved your comment will appear directly underneath the comment you replied to

View Comments:
Page: « First ‹ Previous 1 2 3 4 Next › Last » (4 pages total)
- iblogleft I'm a Fan of iblogleft 88 fans permalink
photo

I could write a whole series on the subject, but I think people are starting to understand. This is as much about prioritizing science and education in our decision processes as anything else. This is part of a much larger revolution in the United States, a revolution of critical thinking and harm reduction.

The science is in, the studies are done, the conclusions are here. We already know what the right thing to do is, we just have to make it happen. The fight is not with the studies or the science, it is now a fight against entrenched money interests; Those industries that rely on deception and misinformation to retain control over their commodities, and keep competing commodities away from the consumers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 PM on 07/08/2009
- kindGSL I'm a Fan of kindGSL 15 fans permalink
photo

KGO - call the station: 415.954.7777 press 9 for the station manager.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 07/08/2009
- iplaw I'm a Fan of iplaw 30 fans permalink

I like your strategy:) Give em hell!

I will go farther and commit to boycotting KGO and KNTV until they air the commercial!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 07/08/2009
- kindGSL I'm a Fan of kindGSL 15 fans permalink
photo

NBC KNTV San Francisco

848 Battery St
San Francisco, CA 94111-1504

(415) 276- 1111

You can only leave messages at this number, but I did mention to them they are discriminating against us as a race and religion, and it is a conspiracy the news media is in on.

I think it is important to inform people when you discover they are doing something wrong or breaking the law.

Reverend Sister Lauren Unruh
THC Ministry

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 07/08/2009
photo

By claiming that smoking weed makes you part of any race or religion you are doing all of us an extreme disservice. If marijuana users and/or advocates ever wish to be taken seriously as a voting bloc then we must begin to act seriously.

With friends like these...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 07/08/2009
- washlib I'm a Fan of washlib 37 fans permalink
photo

Harborside gets it right! Providing a sacred medicinal herb can be done in a professional and compassionate way, it needs no seedy connotations for provisioning.

Thankyou for showing the RIGHT way of treating patients, with respect, responsiveness and compassion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 PM on 07/08/2009
- Macready I'm a Fan of Macready 64 fans permalink

if pot is legalised it gets it out of the hands of the drug pushers .. . . and the state gets revenues it worked in Amsterdam . . . give it a try . . . . because the teenagers will find a way to buy it anyway . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 07/08/2009
- TheFobster I'm a Fan of TheFobster 10 fans permalink

RE-legalize it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 07/08/2009

In the bigger picture, like at least 5000 years of recorded use.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 07/08/2009

I'm for gay marriage, against the war in Iraq, against the death penalty...but I'm not for legalization of marijuana and I think these ads will send a poor message to teenagers about marijuana. Our schools are messed up enough as it is without making even more kids into stoners. We don't need to encourage any more substance abuse just to make tax money. I'd like to see more stations not playing these ads, or least, if they play the ad, they can follow it with an anti-drug message aimed at kids.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 07/08/2009
- Tazru I'm a Fan of Tazru 63 fans permalink
photo

Our schools are mess up because of the 30 years of faith-based anti-science programs in those schools. We tried it your way for 30 years, NOW it is time for us to really come to our sense and teach Science and Critical Thinking Skills in the classrooms.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 07/08/2009
photo

Exactly!
Don't blame a plant for Human failure.
Choice, consequence, and responsibility.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 AM on 07/08/2009
- Tazru I'm a Fan of Tazru 63 fans permalink
photo

Schools should be for promoting Life-Long Learning and curiosity. Knowledge should be free, and open-source. These conditions enable Informed Consent on many important issues in life. As an example consider any power tool or motorized vehicle, aren't people who know how these devices operate in a better condition to use them safely? I want commercial pilots to know how to fly the plane, having confidence will not do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 07/08/2009
photo

Perhaps you have not heard about tobacco taxes, or alcohol taxes?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 07/08/2009
photo

Alcohol is legal, yet not legally available to teens. Why can't marijuana be treated the same way? MJ is illegal now, yet plenty of kids are able to get their hands on it - as well, plenty of kids are able to drink even tho they are below the legal drinking age.

Although I have to concede, alcohol advertising has been removed from network TV, so the TV stations are at least being consistent in that respect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 AM on 07/08/2009
- KillTheTV I'm a Fan of KillTheTV 6 fans permalink

True but that doesn't keep them from airing all the ads for pharmaceutical companies. Tit for tat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 07/16/2009
- washlib I'm a Fan of washlib 37 fans permalink
photo

marijuana, with a proven track record of health benefits(ie. vs. nausea, inflammation, pain, bronchitis, etc), is NOT a drug, it IS a sacred medicine. For those of us who battle chronic pain on a daily basis, marijuana truly is a miracle, without the side effects and liver damage of "safe" pharma drugs. Anything that causes a change in consciousness can be abused(heck even paint thinner), but it's up to adults to be responsible and treat the medicine with respect.

Cigarettes, Alcohol, processed sugar..are all DRUGS. They provide almost zero benefit to humanity, and cause much pain and suffering due to their effects on the human body. And yet they are sold and taxed...why is that? One answer-corporatism. You have been brain washed by 70yrs of propaganda by pharma, timber, cotton, energy producers who fear hemp/mj due to it's incredible benefits to humanity (and thereby cutting into THEIR profits)

Please learn more about this wonderful sacred herb, and let those ADULTS who wish to partake of it's benefits live freely and happily with their medicine of choice. Legalization does NOT send a bad message, only that 20% of American Citizens will no longer be victimized because of it's corporatist inclusion as a scheduled drug. Legalization has shown actually to DECREASE the overall usage, especially among the young who no longer see it as a form of "rebellion".

peace

The time for full legalization of MJ has come, and no one can stop it. The people have spoken.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 07/08/2009
- Tazru I'm a Fan of Tazru 63 fans permalink
photo

Aye, Rasta-scotti !

Ahm a wee bit multi-cultural an aw. Pass round the Quaich!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 07/08/2009
- Hank007 I'm a Fan of Hank007 88 fans permalink

Statistically, LESS young people smoke in countries where cannabis is decriminalized or legalized. This a fact popularly ignored by people wanting to debate this on philosophy, not fact. It is prohibition and a lack of regulation that drives underage use.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 07/08/2009
photo

Can the Government outlaw greed?
Would people still be greedy if there were a law against it?
Pot should be legalized.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 AM on 07/08/2009

I like that terramartom...

Prohibition on Govt. GREED, not WEED! start making the picket signs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 PM on 07/08/2009
- kappa08 I'm a Fan of kappa08 85 fans permalink
photo

BUT...they have no problem running ads for "legalized" drugs with 3 minutes of side affects....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 07/08/2009
photo

The side affects can actually KILL you, and do!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 AM on 07/08/2009
- Giac Belli I'm a Fan of Giac Belli 3 fans permalink
photo

What do you mean ? Explain yourself
If you can ....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 PM on 07/08/2009
- kindGSL I'm a Fan of kindGSL 15 fans permalink
photo

Not only that but those drugs are often for the same things you could use pot for and it is COMPLETELY HARMLESS.

Pot drug warning:

* May make you drowsy, do not operate heavy machinery while under the influence. *

There that's it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 07/08/2009
- kindGSL I'm a Fan of kindGSL 15 fans permalink
photo

Wouldn't you love to se the side effects of pot?

May make you drowsy, use caution when driving or using heavy machinery.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 07/08/2009
- YewNeekId I'm a Fan of YewNeekId 26 fans permalink

No gay marriage, no ads for pot, no money in the state treasury.

CA is getting awfully Republican.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 AM on 07/08/2009
- fcsakes I'm a Fan of fcsakes 92 fans permalink
photo

Did any of these stations run ads pushing for denial of human rights to gays?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 07/08/2009
- Mexitli I'm a Fan of Mexitli 10 fans permalink
photo

Does anyone watch KABC aka channel 7?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 AM on 07/08/2009
- fumes I'm a Fan of fumes 91 fans permalink
photo

better than cotton..

and better than beer!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 AM on 07/08/2009
- joocee102 I'm a Fan of joocee102 3 fans permalink
photo

True. When was the last time we heard a vehicle death related accident blamed on pot? NEVER!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 07/08/2009
- washlib I'm a Fan of washlib 37 fans permalink
photo

i find these comments to be a bit misleading. I do not recommend to anyone that they smoke potent mj and drive. It can easily lead to accidents, just as alcohol does. Just because you haven't heard of any mj related incidents does not mean that it hasn't happened...

Treat your medicine(s) responsibly and be safe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 07/08/2009
- jdlund I'm a Fan of jdlund 7 fans permalink

I would also point out that this is slightly a meaningless campaign. California cannot outright legalize marijuana. Even if the drug is grown and sold domestically the Supreme Court has already said that Federal regulations of marijuana applies to intrastate commerce because it is reasonably related to interstate commerce. Federal laws trump state laws. Thus if marijuana is to be legalized it has to be done on the federal level not the state level. Regardless of the weird limbo that medical marijuana is currently in when it comes to federal regulation versus state regulation there is no such ambiguity when it comes to complete legalization.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 07/08/2009
- AlexFTW I'm a Fan of AlexFTW 19 fans permalink
photo

That does not make the campaign meaningless. First and foremost, people should be educated about the subject and then press their representatives to act. Eventually, if enough states act, the issue will becoming pressing on the federal level. This is how you work a grassroots campaign (no pun intended). Not by throwing up your arms and saying "Welp, the law's the law! Can't change it! " That's how a democracy is supposed to work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 07/08/2009
- ShoreSage I'm a Fan of ShoreSage 2 fans permalink

And your point is? Laws change over time as attitudes change. Campaigns for legalization have increased dramatically over the last decade as at least 13 states have adopted medical mj laws and the Obama administration as said it is not going to waste fed dollars chasing down medical mj clinics. Now there are moves on for outright legalization in state legislatures and governor's mansions. Ultimately, Congress may get on board too. So "meaningless" may not be an appropriate description of the campaign. You may not have been around for Prohibition, but unlike Meaghan McCain, you may have learned about it. It seems to me that alcohol was outlawed for a dozen or so years and now we have competing beer commercials on the Super Bowl. I am sure some Prohibition advocates thought that repeal efforts were a meaningless campaign, ya think?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 07/08/2009
- washlib I'm a Fan of washlib 37 fans permalink
photo

Bull, when the states LEAD, the feds follow. Seldom does the Fed EVER lead in legislation for citizens, it is grassroots organization and truth-filled propaganda that will sway the hearts and minds of America. Then the fed will jump on board.

Ambiguity in state/fed rights is fought on the ground every day for many different reasons. This is no different, and many lives have been destroyed or lost over this benign sacred herb.

The CITIZENS are the final arbiters of values and laws, and it's up to the lawmakers to f-ing LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE, not to their corporatist contributors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 07/08/2009
- Hank007 I'm a Fan of Hank007 88 fans permalink

Watch the feds roll in to stop a state law from being followed, and watch a popular president get voted out in 4 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 PM on 07/08/2009
- kindGSL I'm a Fan of kindGSL 15 fans permalink
photo

You are wrong.

The federal law is unconstitutional because it is religious discrimination against my sacrament, states have the right to regulate it, not the fed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 07/08/2009
photo

Just want you to know, you're insane. Marijuana is in no way, shape, or form a religious sacrament, and the only thing you're accomplishing through your argument is discrediting yourself and the entire decriminalization movement.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 07/08/2009
photo

Should a referrendum come about in California next year, organizing nationally to fund pro-legalization advertizing there would be a goal worth pursuing; when the first crack in this conservative wall of disinformation surfaces, it will most likely be in California.

Every person in this country who supports legalization and could spare a buck or two to finance a strong ad campaign should do so, as it would eventually benefit us all. And such an opportunity would demonstrate nationally just how much real support there is for legalization.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 07/08/2009
- mouselion I'm a Fan of mouselion 123 fans permalink
photo

From the short video, Harborside Health Center is very impressive. We need more organizations like that in states with legalized medical marijuana.

Full-out cannabis legalization is a tall order, even in CA, but sooner or later, it's going to happen. 1.3 Billion dollars is nothing to scoff at, especially with states and fed in such a financial crunch. Other states need to be thinking about this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 AM on 07/08/2009
photo

Indeed; low-THC marijuana [hemp] farming could be a true non-drug issue, farm industry economic boom all its own, producing real jobs in the real economy [as opposed to the pathetic Wall St. bubble reinflation efforts we're seeing now].

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 07/08/2009
- Enid I'm a Fan of Enid 9 fans permalink

A true green economy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 07/08/2009
Page: « First ‹ Previous 1 2 3 4 Next › Last » (4 pages total)
Comments are closed for this entry

 You must be logged in to comment. Log in  or connect with 

Connect