Dems Find Supermajority Hasn't Changed Balance Of Power

Washington Post:

Senate Democrats spent their first full day holding 60 votes just as they have spent the previous 2 1/2 years without such a supermajority: scrambling to find Republican support for their key initiatives in order to choke off potential filibusters.

Read the whole story: Washington Post

Comments

[abby4ever]

G0d, Harry, couldn't you hold a position for even 48 hours?

[AmericanWarrior]

It is hard to do that when you have NO BONES... Especially NO SPINE...

[chargerman]

Nothing above the neck either.

[abby4ever]

I really thought he had found some bones, and spine too. Now, according to this article anyway, he's huddled with Repubs seeking votes. If that's true, he is undermining his own command of two days ago.

I say 'undermini­ng'... in truth he is violating the hel_l out of it. No one will ever listen to him again.

Something awful must have happened.

[DrOftrahDivad]

just wait til the truth comes out about Pelosi and CIA

[kitkatborn]

Sam Stein has an article on just this issue.

[AmericanWarrior]

I gotta show love for the Republicans on this. They have deregulated our great country to the ground... Imagine somebody wrecking something for 8 years. The American people spoke loudly and threw most of them out. Now, after only 6 months, they are saying, "You are doing it all wrong... Where are the jobs?...Am­ericans don't need healthcare­..." Fabulous. In 8 years, it can be argued they didn't know their @ss from a whole in the wall... But now, they HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS!!!
Something in that milk, ain't clean...

[Amondale]

You nailed it, but it's going right over their heads because they really do have all the answers as witnessed by our current situations here and abroad.

[chargerman]

Know who started Deregulation? Senator Ted Kennedy with the Airline Industry. Do your homework on this one.

[Amondale]

HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!
[[ gasping for air ]]
LMFAO

[bubbuh]

http://northwestlaw.wordpress.com/2008/09/20/deregulation-a-short-history/
Nixon

[willt7311]

The usual line of 8 years. Like there was no history prior to 8 years ago.

Kind of like those Christians and the 6000 year old earth thing.

[whodoyouvoodoo]

Going Down, Down - Down - Down - Down - Down.....

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 30% of the nation's voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-eight percent (38%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of –8. The President’s Approval Index rating has fallen six points since release of a disappointing jobs report last week

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

[DrOftrahDivad]

just wait til porkulus 2 debate starts
oh yea, dems dont want no stinking debate- just ram it thru like Barry wants
watch the numbers then

[AmericanWarrior]

Who cares about the Rasmussen. Do you realize the Rasmussen was calling the elections about even and on several days just before, had McCain ahead.... No you didn't know that, did you? Or maybe you were crossing your fingers, hoping to die for it to be right...

[abby4ever]

Someone posted this same link yesterday. The part of the article I most enjoyed was this part:

"Forty percent (40%) of GOP voters say that Palin hurt her chances of winning the nomination by resigning as Alaska’s Governor last week."

It helped take some of the sting out of Obama's falling poll numbers, made it easier to bear and all that...

:]

[DrOftrahDivad]

this article is about Dems in congress, not palin

[willt7311]

Many of you dems are going through what we republicans went through years ago.

You thought you bought a cadillac but it is really just a ford pinto that doesn't even run.

The current lot of politicians (both sides of the aisle) have no convictions except the ones that garner votes.

[NWRICK]

Always enjoy the insight, but I must go now.
Have a great day.

[Amondale]

U2

[jazzybo]

http://winograd4congress.com/petitions/contributions.php

[iamvalid]

Well now this is only a rumor, but I like to think it actually happened.

In a seldom used meeting chamber on the capitol grounds, the super majority of 60 democrat senators met in closed session. Republicans got wind of this meeting and sent 8 republican senators to crash the meeting. Words were said and a shouting and shoving match ensued. The aftermath found 60 democrat senators requiring medical care for cuts and lacerations. The 8 republicans responsible for this vicious attack on the 60 beloved democrat senators have yet to be named.

As added insult to the vicious assault, it appears Senator Max Baucus from Montana changed sides and joined in with the 8 republicans when he saw that the democrats had no hope for victory.

[jazzybo]

Blue dog Democrats are being put on notice. This time around voters will not forget.

[DrHuffington]

Yeah, maybe all those leftist libs that are in unemployment lines in California to get their IOU's, will move to the Blue Dog states.

[Amondale]

Amazing what the state did to themselves lowering taxes and such. Now they have no money.

Never saw that one coming.

[willt7311]

The problem is the pandering.

You can't act as if you are here to protect the worker and the unions and then come up with ways to make manufacturing more expensive. People start to notice that you are talking out of both sides of your mouth.

Just ask the republicans.

[Amondale]

It's nice to see trench blogfare is alive and well whenever the liberal blog HP headlines an unflattering story about Democrats. It's like a zapper for tro// bugs and others that have an opposing viewpoint to those of us here in the echo chamber.

Kudos, HP.

[DrOftrahDivad]

hp is a nonpartisan site
trolls are ppl who disagree with you?
hah

[AmericanWarrior]

Super Majority being led by "Man-At-War":

Unfortunately for the Independents, moderate DEM and the American people, we are being led by a Droopy Dog, Barney Fife, spineless twit. Nothing will happen with this guy. Those are the facts.

[willt7311]

Harry or Barry?

[chargerman]

Dingy Harry.

[Tyler-Durden]

this is a great article.

it further supports the fact that WE MUST PRESSURE OUR CONGRESSMEN TO SUPPORT THE PEOPLE, AND NOT CAVE TO CORPORATE LOBBYISTS.

do it people, write your reps. tell them we've had enough pandering to corporations that care only about profits. The threat of "lost jobs" is bogus, as they're cutting jobs already. 5 million jobs lost so far.

[willt7311]

Don't write. Stop voting for candidates that pander instead of lead.

Don't vote for the candidate that seeks to agitate. Vote for the candidate that wants to lead.

[AmericanWarrior]

Can't blame Obama in 6 months, with what has been coming down the pipe for years. I realize that the trolls apologized nor take responsibility for anything. So I'' let you blame who you want... I'll just stick to the facts...Th­ankx.

[kitkatborn]

Yeah, like that's going to help. Putting them on notice of "foreclosure" is more appropos.

[marxmarv]

No, the candidate who WANTS to lead is usually the least fit for the office.

Vote for the candidate who doesn't want to lead but will do it from a sense of duty.

[willt7311]

This problem exists because like all politicians, dems spend too much time pandering for votes instead of leading on issues.

They take on too many special interests and the next thing you know those interests start to clash. Welcome to reality where you can't make all of the people happy all of the time.

[GOPonEllisDee]

You hit the nail right on the head. Agreed.

[VegasBabe]

Your posts are making sense more all of the time lately. R u ok?

[LooktotheLeft]

LOL !

[Amondale]

Agreed. Very nice. Thank you.

[PATina]

That's why the "big tent" needs to go. Too many clashing interests.

[AmericanWarrior]

co-sign. But the majority of the damage has been done by Re Thugs.

[willt7311]

It has been this way for a long time. It goes further back then the last 8 years.

[ethancorso]

Imagine that...Rei­d's 'don't coddle the GOP' grandstanding didn't even last three days.

Heckuva job, Harry!

[NWRICK]

I guess that wasn't a spine after all.
Pity.

[chargerman]

Dingy Harry no spine? Perhaps someone should check what's above his neck.

[DrOftrahDivad]

just wait til we find out Pelosi was lying again afterall

[LooktotheLeft]

Don't try to join in Oprah...no one wants you around

[Stephen C. Rose - Huffpost Blogger]

Washington Post: "Democrats have a large enough majority to pass bills without any GOP support, but they are grappling with internal divisions ...Obama would like at least some Republican backing on key measures ..."

There are several issues here.

First, In terms of health care and other major Obama agenda items, the country favors the Obama proposals. On health care this would include the public option.

Second, if this is the case, Blue Dog Democrats will need to think very carefully about going against the President. They could well be outflanked by Obama-favoring candidates in the future.

Third, the same goes for Repubicans who oppose the President. They face outright defeat at the hands of Democrats whose election will increase the current majority.

The difference between now and the past, when off-year elections went to the party out of power, is that the GOP is bereft of anything but ridicule and negation. They can argue the fiscal POV. But this is dicey because we may need for even further government commitment to move toward a new economy.

All told, the President is being pushed toward more progressive positions. Happily, these are positions he has always held. Both Blue Dogs and Republicans should see that they are potentially the losers if they oppose the Obama Agenda.

[kitkatborn]

My thoughts exactly. Fanned and faved.

[DrOftrahDivad]

'the GOP is bereft of anything but ridicule and negation."

in the face of a pres who is bankrupting us?
who has racked up more debt in 5 mos than all previous pres combined?
uh no
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

[levibatgirl]

Cheeny and st ronnie said deficits don't matter.

You were for them before you were against them.

And I'm guessing you're in denial about the global economic meltdown?

[BlackBuddha]

DrDraftDodger?

there is something pathetic about even wanting to answer ignorance or outright lies.

Money to Wall Street, or bombs is okay you, but not to ensure a healthy workforce?

[Khirad]

I highly doubt (barring sudden, dramatic demographic changes) that my Blue Dog is getting successfully outflanked by anything but a Republican.

[DrHuffington]

"Both Blue Dogs and Republicans should see that they are potentially the losers if they oppose the Obama Agenda."

Isn't this what you DREAM of at night? Why should you want the Blue Dogs or Republicans to be winners? Are you missing GW?

[DrOftrahDivad]

'peace is absence of resistance to socialism'
-Karl marx

[NotGuilty]

Only folks missing GWB are bin Ladin's cadre, pro-lifers and corporatist CEO's.

[fabricnthreads]

Thanks for making these points. The entire country is moving progressive. The 20% conservative base has lost.

People are reawaking to the fact that the greater good means just that - greater than the individual. It is not about money and power. It is about a bigger picture. The planet is dying. People are dying because they can't get healthcare. Wars have been fought for nothing. Money has been sucked out of our economy for a multitude of false reasons.

The social conservatives are now realizing the Republican policies do not support the working people. Who cares about abortion or gay rights if you can't feed your family, pay your mortgage/rent? Republicans have put them out of work, made them sicker than at any time in history.

Conservatives can say whatever they want about the stimulus and government spending. W spent a ton of money and what does this country have to show for it? A lot of dead and maimed servicemen/women and Iraqis, and a whole lot of chemically contaminated sand in the desert, to point out just a few things. At least Obama is spending the money here. Personally, I think he needs to spend more.

There is absolutely no reason for our agenda to stall. Run roughshod over them. Blue Dogs and Repubs deserve to lose. And they will. 70% of Americans support the healthcare agenda. 70% of their states/districts support it, too.

Time to s&1+ or get out of the way.

[HopeGrenade]

Getting GOP support because you want to play nice? F that. Consolidate your own people and stomp all over the remnants of the stupid party.