South Waziristan: Suspected US Drones Kill At Least 45 In Pakistan

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CHRIS BRUMMITT | 07/ 8/09 04:22 PM | AP

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Pakistani police officers stand beside the body of an attacker at the site of a suicide bombing in Peshawar, Pakistan on Wednesday, July 8, 2009. The suicide bomber blew himself up in the main northwestern city of Peshawar, which lies just next to the tribal areas. No one was killed in the attack except the bomber, a police officer said. (AP Photo/Mohammad Sajjad)

ISLAMABAD — Suspected U.S. unmanned aircraft launched two attacks against militants loyal to the head of the Pakistani Taliban on Wednesday, killing at least 45 in the latest in a barrage of strikes against a group also being targeted by the Pakistani military, intelligence officials said.

The convergence of U.S. and Pakistani interests in the South Waziristan tribal region suggests the two uneasy allies were cooperating in the strikes, making it harder for Islamabad to protest them publicly as it has in the past.

The army denied signing off on the attacks and insisted they were hurting its campaign against Pakistani Taliban chief Baitullah Mehsud by alienating local tribes it is trying to enlist in the fight.

Meanwhile, an army spokesman said a Pakistani jet attack wounded the local Taliban commander in the scenic Swat Valley elsewhere in the northwest. Troops have been battling militants in Swat for more than two months, an offensive that has so far failed to net any top insurgent leaders.

The mountainous border region is home to al-Qaida and Taliban leaders who plot attacks in Pakistan and neighboring Afghanistan, which is witnessing an unprecedented level of violence against U.S. and NATO troops.

South Waziristan is the stronghold of Mehsud and his followers, whom the government blames for more than 90 percent of the suicide bombings in Pakistan in recent years. The U.S. State Department says Mehsud is a key al-Qaida facilitator in the region.

Suspected American drones have carried out more than 45 attacks in the region since last August. Although most have targeted foreign al-Qaida militants and those accused of violence in Afghanistan, increasingly they are aimed at the Mehsud network.

The first strike Wednesday took place before dawn. Six missiles were fired at a mountaintop training camp in the Karwan Manza area of South Waziristan, killing 10 militants, Pakistani intelligence officials said on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to media.

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Hours later, 12 miles to the east, missiles hit four vehicles carrying Taliban militants, killing at least 35, including a key Taliban commander, one intelligence official said. Another said 50 were killed.

Independent verification of the targets and casualties was not possible because the region is remote, dangerous and largely inaccessible to journalists. U.S. and Pakistani officials do not publicly comment on such strikes.

On Tuesday, a suspected U.S. missile attack killed 12 militants in South Waziristan, including five foreigners, according to intelligence officials. Another recent strike killed up to 80 insurgents attending a funeral.

The timing is significant because Pakistan's military is also carrying out bombing runs and firing mortar rounds at militant targets in the region as part of efforts to kill or capture Mehsud and his followers. It says it plans to launch a large offensive there soon.

The government routinely protests suspected U.S. missile strikes as violations of Pakistani sovereignty and has publicly asked the U.S. to give it technology to launch its own attacks. But many analysts suspect the government _ which has received billions of dollars a year from the U.S. since 2001 _ supports the strikes, especially those against Mehsud and his Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan.

"They are decrying them on one hand and aiding and abetting them on the other," said Shuja Nawaz, director of the U.S.-based Atlantic Council. "It is helpful for the Pakistanis when the TTP is being targeted. There is obviously much better coordination now."

Speaking after Tuesday's attack, Maj. Gen. Athar Abbas insisted the U.S. help was unwelcome and alienated local tribes it wanted to enlist in the fight against Mehsud.

The United States has been trying to get Pakistan's military to crack down on militants in the border area since the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, but the country's past nurturing of militants to use as proxies in Afghanistan and Pakistan has complicated those efforts.

The Swat offensive began after militants there violated a peace deal with the government and moved into regions close to the capital, Islamabad. The army claims to have nearly cleared the valley of insurgents, killing more than 1,500.

Abbas told a news conference Wednesday that according to "credible information," the leader of the Swat Taliban, Maulana Fazlullah, was wounded in a recent airstrike. Fazlullah's capture or killing would be a major symbolic victory for the army and could ease the fears of some 2 million residents who fled the valley and surrounding districts and have yet to return.

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Associated Press writers Munir Ahmad, Ishtiaq Mahsud and Hussain Afzal contributed to this report from Islamabad, Dera Ismail Khan and Parachinar.

ISLAMABAD — Suspected U.S. unmanned aircraft launched two attacks against militants loyal to the head of the Pakistani Taliban on Wednesday, killing at least 45 in the latest in a barrage of str...
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- Roguewolf I'm a Fan of Roguewolf 36 fans permalink
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Barack Obama said, about our troops in Afghanistan, they are air raiding villages and killing civilians.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 PM on 07/08/2009
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No he didn't. This a lie from a cyber J.h.adist scumm.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 PM on 07/08/2009

Yes he did

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 07/08/2009
- FHTB I'm a Fan of FHTB 79 fans permalink
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Apologist on the loose...ge­t out the RAID can!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 AM on 07/09/2009

Yes I remember that . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrW4fOGIMVY
I think it is war crimes pure and simple . Time to frog march him off to the Hague.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 07/08/2009
- smchp I'm a Fan of smchp 77 fans permalink
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of course all that video does is prove your statement is utter horsesheit!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 07/08/2009
- Onandon I'm a Fan of Onandon 6 fans permalink

Obama
The prince of Pieces....­....of bomb fragment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 07/08/2009

Why is Obama extending his war machine...­..we need to send all these Dems to jail for war crimes....­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 PM on 07/08/2009
- LeeCalif I'm a Fan of LeeCalif 74 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 07/08/2009
- kwinyan I'm a Fan of kwinyan 11 fans permalink
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Accodring to the international media, there were 60 lives lost from today's drone attack. The prior attack on a training camp left 10 fatalities. After the training camp, several vehicles were attacked with some reports estimating 50 deaths. There were 3 strikes within a 24 hr. period leaving up to 120 deaths. On July 7th, there were 16 more in another attack. Friday's left 17. The ante has been upped significantly this past week, like the fear and anger of the South Waziristan population, no doubt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 07/08/2009
- kwinyan I'm a Fan of kwinyan 11 fans permalink
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According.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 07/08/2009
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Sounds good to everyone. Except Ji.hadists­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 07/08/2009
- kwinyan I'm a Fan of kwinyan 11 fans permalink
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It should help play into their hands. The more anger and death, the more to recruit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 07/08/2009

It's unbelievable how minds like yours continue to exist. Nothing but utter nonsense

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 PM on 07/08/2009
- omobob I'm a Fan of omobob 39 fans permalink
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An unmanned drone is "suspected" of killing 45 people. A machine is "suspected" of killing 45 people. Wars don’t kill people, machines do. God help us all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 PM on 07/08/2009
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Good point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 PM on 07/08/2009
- Bcasey11 I'm a Fan of Bcasey11 13 fans permalink
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i can't wait until the pakistan war

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 07/08/2009
- Ramirez I'm a Fan of Ramirez 277 fans permalink
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Kudos to our young president on another successful strike against the Talib. Obama is taking the fight to the enemy and is smoking them where they live.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 07/08/2009
- abouttime I'm a Fan of abouttime 23 fans permalink

Why on Earth do you say the Taliban is our enemy?
Because Unocal said so!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 07/08/2009
- Ramirez I'm a Fan of Ramirez 277 fans permalink
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The Taliban is the embodiment of pure e v i l and they are the enemy of all mankind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 07/08/2009
- antifluff I'm a Fan of antifluff 15 fans permalink

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 07/08/2009
- RnR I'm a Fan of RnR 26 fans permalink

all those civilians are Taliban? Who'd have thought?????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 07/08/2009
- Jonni Rae I'm a Fan of Jonni Rae 20 fans permalink

What civilians? Did you read the article?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 07/08/2009

Oh yeah, and the Russians were a big threat to us back in the day. Oh and the Communists want to kill your children. Oh and African Americans are evil and need to be kept away from the whites.

Over and over again we are fed fears that do not exist. Wake up already.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 PM on 07/08/2009
- abouttime I'm a Fan of abouttime 23 fans permalink

Is Obama INSANE?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 PM on 07/08/2009
- kbkw54 I'm a Fan of kbkw54 57 fans permalink

Obama = Bush

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 07/08/2009
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smart = stoopid?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 07/08/2009
- Jonni Rae I'm a Fan of Jonni Rae 20 fans permalink

No, Bush did not have the guts to finish off the Taliban. He let Bin Laden go, and left the country to the repressive, fanatical, terroist Taliban, who throw acid at girls trying to go to school. Obama is right in this. They have to be brought down. So that civilization, in the most basic sense, can survive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 07/08/2009
- sosi I'm a Fan of sosi 8 fans permalink
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The art of killing has been perfected by US into video games; when will them rooster come home?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 07/08/2009
- JoeBlough I'm a Fan of JoeBlough 60 fans permalink
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After six years, why aren't we better at this war thing? Is it the quality of the people hired?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:11 PM on 07/08/2009
- Mogamboguru I'm a Fan of Mogamboguru 328 fans permalink
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The alternative to waging a war poorly is NOT to wage a war BETTER - but to wage NO WAR AT ALL:

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 07/08/2009
- piloto I'm a Fan of piloto 12 fans permalink
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Thats the real beuty of the drones, blow up the bad guys from Vegas. How many More drones are we getting since we are giving up a Full Third of our Nuke Arsenal? Any new jobs building newer nukes?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 07/08/2009

Or we could let the Taliban overrun Pakistan since that seems like such a good idea

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 07/08/2009
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 07/08/2009
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With the massive amount of bombing raids that are going on (that we don't know about) there are bound to be a minority of them that go haywire.

But this is getting crazy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 07/08/2009
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Oh but we are. And getting better. Finally. Just reading Taliban causality lists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 07/08/2009
- Mogamboguru I'm a Fan of Mogamboguru 328 fans permalink
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I need a few thousands war .d.e.a.d. to sit at the peace table!" Barack Obama - or was that Benito mussolini.­..?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 PM on 07/08/2009
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Less Talibs and AQs types, more peace. This is the realpolitik formula that the world agrees on.
And now FINALLY doing something about it.
Read this article carefully as warning, mogsmboguru, lest you feel the call of Jih.ad come upon you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 07/08/2009
- nylibgrrl I'm a Fan of nylibgrrl 21 fans permalink
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People might take you more seriously if you'd stop with the child!sh "if you disagree with me you're a terr0rist" bu//$h!t, ok?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 07/08/2009
- skialethia I'm a Fan of skialethia 164 fans permalink
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Oh he//! Stop this indiscriminate k!illing OBAMA!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 07/08/2009
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But it's not indiscriminate. It targeted precisely at your primitive fundie brethren. Enjoy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 07/08/2009

What's the legal framework to deal with drones that, say, go haywire and kill hundreds? are there precedents? who is to blame?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 PM on 07/08/2009
- abouttime I'm a Fan of abouttime 23 fans permalink

Congress.
Whatever justification Obama has he is violating our Constitution. Congress cannot give blanket authority to the Executive to invade any country he pleases. Congess is ultimately to blame, ... but it is up to We, the people to demand an end to this Slaughter of innocents on behalf of the Corporate fascists whose money is being made off our involuntary servitude!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:11 PM on 07/08/2009
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Congress already gave blanket authority. Back in September 01 there abouts. (im too lazy to luck it up, just trust me)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 PM on 07/08/2009
- piloto I'm a Fan of piloto 12 fans permalink
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They voted, where were you?
Drones don't go "haywire" hence, no president. There is somebody flying them remember. Of course the "haywire" excuse will be used when the political price of doing war becomes too hot for us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 07/08/2009
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So are we going to get Obama outrage? Doubt it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 PM on 07/08/2009
- antifluff I'm a Fan of antifluff 15 fans permalink

So, you will vote them out??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 07/08/2009
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 07/08/2009

I guess HP doesn't want this said, but at this point in time I think it's safe to say that America has killed more innocent people than the so-called terrorists (I know this article is claiming otherwise)

It would be interesting to see an actual count, although the US claims that they always get the bad guy so I guess it's OK, regardless of how many women and children we k.ill in the process.

WAKE UP

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 07/08/2009

Are we going to prosecute the bo admin for this!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 PM on 07/08/2009
- Mogamboguru I'm a Fan of Mogamboguru 328 fans permalink
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If neccessary.

NOBODY is above the law.

And then there is still GWB to go after...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 PM on 07/08/2009
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You must mean bushie and his cohorts, most especially cheney, the ones who started the whole thing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:10 PM on 07/08/2009
- JoeBlough I'm a Fan of JoeBlough 60 fans permalink
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Price of Freedom.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 07/08/2009

Yeah, you just keep repeating that mantra, but the fact is our freedom is not being threatened by anyone but our own government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 07/08/2009
- Jonni Rae I'm a Fan of Jonni Rae 20 fans permalink

If you count Iraq, yes, but this was not Obama's war. Pakistan wants the Taliban neutralized. They were dangerously close to Islamabad, where the nukes are. They approve of the drones. The article says that those killed were "militants" You don't believe it, okay, but it is obvious Pakistan and the US are working together here. We should have destroyed the Taliban after 911, for harboring terrorists, Bin Laden, et. al, and terrorizing their own people, especially women and girls. They are thugs and fanatics. They have been bombing mosques, schools...­why are you in their corner? We are not going against the government of Pakistan. The Taliban and the foreign criminals they host, are responsible for the death of Benazar Bhutto and thousands of Muslims.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 07/08/2009

Oh yeah, and the Russians were a big threat to us back in the day. Oh and the Communists want to kill your children. Oh and African Americans are evil and need to be kept away from the whites.

Over and over again we are fed fears that do not exist. Wake up already.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 07/08/2009
- antifluff I'm a Fan of antifluff 15 fans permalink

Wecouldn't goafterthetaliban witharepublicanpres thatisracist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 07/08/2009
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