South Waziristan: Suspected US Drones Kill At Least 45 In Pakistan

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CHRIS BRUMMITT | 07/ 8/09 04:22 PM | AP

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Pakistani police officers stand beside the body of an attacker at the site of a suicide bombing in Peshawar, Pakistan on Wednesday, July 8, 2009. The suicide bomber blew himself up in the main northwestern city of Peshawar, which lies just next to the tribal areas. No one was killed in the attack except the bomber, a police officer said. (AP Photo/Mohammad Sajjad)

ISLAMABAD — Suspected U.S. unmanned aircraft launched two attacks against militants loyal to the head of the Pakistani Taliban on Wednesday, killing at least 45 in the latest in a barrage of strikes against a group also being targeted by the Pakistani military, intelligence officials said.

The convergence of U.S. and Pakistani interests in the South Waziristan tribal region suggests the two uneasy allies were cooperating in the strikes, making it harder for Islamabad to protest them publicly as it has in the past.

The army denied signing off on the attacks and insisted they were hurting its campaign against Pakistani Taliban chief Baitullah Mehsud by alienating local tribes it is trying to enlist in the fight.

Meanwhile, an army spokesman said a Pakistani jet attack wounded the local Taliban commander in the scenic Swat Valley elsewhere in the northwest. Troops have been battling militants in Swat for more than two months, an offensive that has so far failed to net any top insurgent leaders.

The mountainous border region is home to al-Qaida and Taliban leaders who plot attacks in Pakistan and neighboring Afghanistan, which is witnessing an unprecedented level of violence against U.S. and NATO troops.

South Waziristan is the stronghold of Mehsud and his followers, whom the government blames for more than 90 percent of the suicide bombings in Pakistan in recent years. The U.S. State Department says Mehsud is a key al-Qaida facilitator in the region.

Suspected American drones have carried out more than 45 attacks in the region since last August. Although most have targeted foreign al-Qaida militants and those accused of violence in Afghanistan, increasingly they are aimed at the Mehsud network.

The first strike Wednesday took place before dawn. Six missiles were fired at a mountaintop training camp in the Karwan Manza area of South Waziristan, killing 10 militants, Pakistani intelligence officials said on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to media.

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Hours later, 12 miles to the east, missiles hit four vehicles carrying Taliban militants, killing at least 35, including a key Taliban commander, one intelligence official said. Another said 50 were killed.

Independent verification of the targets and casualties was not possible because the region is remote, dangerous and largely inaccessible to journalists. U.S. and Pakistani officials do not publicly comment on such strikes.

On Tuesday, a suspected U.S. missile attack killed 12 militants in South Waziristan, including five foreigners, according to intelligence officials. Another recent strike killed up to 80 insurgents attending a funeral.

The timing is significant because Pakistan's military is also carrying out bombing runs and firing mortar rounds at militant targets in the region as part of efforts to kill or capture Mehsud and his followers. It says it plans to launch a large offensive there soon.

The government routinely protests suspected U.S. missile strikes as violations of Pakistani sovereignty and has publicly asked the U.S. to give it technology to launch its own attacks. But many analysts suspect the government _ which has received billions of dollars a year from the U.S. since 2001 _ supports the strikes, especially those against Mehsud and his Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan.

"They are decrying them on one hand and aiding and abetting them on the other," said Shuja Nawaz, director of the U.S.-based Atlantic Council. "It is helpful for the Pakistanis when the TTP is being targeted. There is obviously much better coordination now."

Speaking after Tuesday's attack, Maj. Gen. Athar Abbas insisted the U.S. help was unwelcome and alienated local tribes it wanted to enlist in the fight against Mehsud.

The United States has been trying to get Pakistan's military to crack down on militants in the border area since the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, but the country's past nurturing of militants to use as proxies in Afghanistan and Pakistan has complicated those efforts.

The Swat offensive began after militants there violated a peace deal with the government and moved into regions close to the capital, Islamabad. The army claims to have nearly cleared the valley of insurgents, killing more than 1,500.

Abbas told a news conference Wednesday that according to "credible information," the leader of the Swat Taliban, Maulana Fazlullah, was wounded in a recent airstrike. Fazlullah's capture or killing would be a major symbolic victory for the army and could ease the fears of some 2 million residents who fled the valley and surrounding districts and have yet to return.

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Associated Press writers Munir Ahmad, Ishtiaq Mahsud and Hussain Afzal contributed to this report from Islamabad, Dera Ismail Khan and Parachinar.

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Guess what, Obama is already hinting about backtracking on closing GTMO.
So much for that....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 07/08/2009
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Proof? Link?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 07/08/2009
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Read the news dumb/a/s/s

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 PM on 07/08/2009

Whaaa...? Is McNamara still at Defense Dept.? Guess he is still with us, despite the premature obituaries.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 07/08/2009

At this point in time I think it's safe to say that America has killed more innocent people than the so-called ter.rorists (I know this article is claiming otherwise)

It would be interesting to see an actual count, although the US claims that they always get the bad guy so I guess it's OK, regardless of how many women and children we k.ill in the process.

Crazy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 07/08/2009
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Oh I'm so excited Obama is killing folks overseas! (well DUH that is what democrats have done for nearly a century folks, they do slaughter real well, just ask FDR and LBJ!)

I'm going down to my local recruitment office and take photos of pansy butt libs and progressive signing up to go kill people for Obama.

HA HA HA HA HA (waving at y'all with a big bunny ears peace sign)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 07/08/2009
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I take it you are a conservative. But you know what, you're right on this one. There are just as many blind liberals as there are conservatives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 07/08/2009
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Blinded by ignorance of the Corpoarte Main Stream Media who failing to present liberal AND conservative views opposing this Incorporated Slaughter!

US out of Afghanistan and Pakistan, Obama's WARS!

Not in my name!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 07/08/2009
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Yes! Agreed. It has to stop.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 07/09/2009
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flagged

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 07/08/2009
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relax dude. You sound like a 3rd grade tattle-tale.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 PM on 07/08/2009

At this point in time I think it's safe to say that America has killed more innocent people than the so-called ter.rorists (I know this article is claiming otherwise)

It would be interesting to see an actual count, although the US claims that they always get the bad guy so I guess it's OK, regardless of how many women and children we k.ill in the process.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 07/08/2009

How many times did you cut-n-paste this comment?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 PM on 07/08/2009
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At what point were you against it after you were for it. Nov04 maybe?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:21 PM on 07/08/2009

Not quite

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 07/08/2009
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Hope it was on-target. Risky business.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 07/08/2009
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I think it's time for everyone to watch "The Obama Deception".

I didn't want to agree with it at first but it's becoming impossible not to consider this informaion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 07/08/2009
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no one watch this. it's another hack conspiracy documentary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 07/08/2009
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yehweh is right. Don't watch it. You might learn some truth. And that will infect your mind with some insight as to what might really be going on. And we don't want any of that.

Instead of trying to direct people away from this film, why not tell us what you found inaccurate about it first?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 07/08/2009
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Freedom's just a word
When someone takes your word away it's seldom ever heard
So take a sentence full of things you're not supposed to say
Carry on, but don't write it down or you'll be gone

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Love is just a song
When someone takes the song away
you seldom sing along
So take those lyrics serious and sing your life away
Carry on, but don't write 'em down or they'll be gone

All we ever do is talk
We like to ride but we never walk
We make it so easy
We get bored
Why can't anybody see what's good for you is good for me

Peace is just two fingers now
Peace was just a phase
When someone put it on a shirt
you knew to count the days
So take those fingers tape 'em up and shove 'em up your @!$ and carry on
but don't try it now cause peace is gone

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 07/08/2009
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Obama promised he would go after the terrorists in Pakistan that Bush was ignoring.

He is keeping his promise.
Thank you Barack.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:23 PM on 07/08/2009
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co-sign. He is consistent as always.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 07/08/2009

Yeah, just like he was with Ear-Marks, Lobbyists, Transparency, Taxes.... I don't think I like THIS kind of "consistency"...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 07/08/2009
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Yeh, consistant war monger!
US out of Pakistan!
Obama has blood on his hands!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 PM on 07/08/2009
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You are OK with killing innocent civilians as well? Analysts say the ratio since JAnuary has been 50:1

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 07/08/2009
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He has done a few things right but so many more thing so very wrong. 3 Trillion dollars these days?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 07/08/2009
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Why is it when Bush used drones like this and took out innocent people it was a war crime?

Obama the perpetual vacationer in chief does it and it's just fine?

Liberal double standard # 8,333,848,923

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 07/08/2009
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snore

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 07/08/2009
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Let's just call it a voter double-standard, okay? Let's stop acting like alleged liberal voters are any more well-informed than conservative ones.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 07/08/2009
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thats why obamas numbers are sinking faster than the titanic. obama lied to get elected and everything he stood for against bush is now just a policy shift. at least bush had a backbone and fought for america.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 07/08/2009
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um, it appears that all the deaths were "militants" (read freedom fighters). So it appears to be a targeted strike with minimal collateral damage.

Obama-cares about people
illegal potus 43- cares about his big contributors, hates people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 07/08/2009
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Really? So you are going with the Pentagon's version? How naive...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 07/08/2009
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no innocent casualties mentioned in article toolboy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 07/08/2009
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Yeah, that's reserved for the back pages later when it's confirmed that was a routine Pentagon lie.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 07/08/2009

1. No innocent people were killed in this particular strike. Read the article.

2. Where did anybody say this was fine?

Obama is a very middle of the road moderate centrist politician, so of course liberals disagree with him from time to time. He doesn't even support gay marriage or universal healthcare for crying out loud. I think you pathetic yokels have confused intelligence with radicalism. Keep drinking that neoconservative kool aid, you propaganda infested hillbilly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 07/08/2009
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those are awful big words to use when addressing hillbillies

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 07/08/2009
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Obamaisyourtypicalleftistlib. Heisconcernedwithpower,notpeople. Hedoesn'tsupporthomosexualsbecausethemuslimswouldbeoffended andnot easily charmed by his quoting theirholybook. He is for nationalized healthcare becauseitwill givehim power todictatehow people should live their lives.
If hewere a caring individual, his aunt and half-brother would have been well taken careof and not given as an example of his ideaof gov't housing and care.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 07/08/2009
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Assuming we're talking about killing extreme terrorist, please give us an update when we've killed enough to make them reconsider their mind about being extreme terrorists.

I really like the idea that a drone was able to reach and destroy enough to make the news.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 07/08/2009
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Live leak videos yet?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 07/08/2009
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0bama is busy kiIIing people with drones.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 07/08/2009
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Obamainator : Rise of the TrollKillers
be afraid newkidid

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 07/08/2009
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Two million refuges: starving.
Malaria out breaks.
Suffering.

And the war profiteers hide beneath the blood.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 07/08/2009
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over 6,000 He//fire Missiles since 2001 @ $68,000/missile

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 07/08/2009
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By looking at the videos on live leak, they seem to being doing a great job blowing those losers into tiny bits.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 PM on 07/08/2009
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you progressives hate war so much, yet you are nowhere to be found when there is no other way. for instance when we fought vietnam you were all like oh no why do we even need to fight the commies, their not so bad. my anthroplogy instructor is one as is my political science teacher and they are cool peeps. hey dont worry about the 2million poor vietnamese that were killed by those cool communists when we caved to progressive pressure and left.

if bush would have invaded sudan when george clooney was pushing for intervention, would you have supported that? because diplomacy doesnt seem to work, iran, n. korea. last time i checked it was the radical religion of peace that started blowing up innocent people way back in the 90's under clinton. but he didnt think we should press that hard and even turned down osama after the first wtc bombing. sometimes it is neccesary to stand up to the people that would cut your head off with a pocketknife, i.e. daniel pearl. it is unfortunate that innocents are killed but how many jews were lost because the weak kneed europeans would not confront hitler? sometimes you must fight or lay down and let the wolves devour you. by the way thank a vet for your reading this in english.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 PM on 07/08/2009
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what are we doing there?oh i know, got to keep the military industrial complex fed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 07/08/2009
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This is SO WRONG on so many levels. I am all for fighting terrorism, but NOT at the expense fo BECOMING a terrorist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 07/08/2009

Too late

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