White House Threatens Veto Of Bill To Alter National Security Briefings

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First Posted: 07- 8-09 06:00 PM   |   Updated: 07- 8-09 11:19 PM

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President Obama has threatened to veto a Democratic-backed bill that would likely expand the number of lawmakers who can be briefed by the White House on covert national security operations.

In a statement issued on Wednesday afternoon, the White House Office of Management and Budget said that it does support many provisions in the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2010 currently making its way through the House of Representatives. But it had "serious concerns with a number of provisions that would impede the smooth and efficient functioning" of the intelligence community.

In particular, the administration opposed a provision of the bill that would give Congress greater authority to decide which members are briefed on covert actions. The Intelligence Authorization Act proposed restructuring the "Gang of Eight" briefings, which are currently provided to the House and Senate leaders from both parties and the chairs and ranking minority members of the House and Senate intelligence panels. The House legislation, backed by Speaker Nancy Pelosi (a former intelligence chair herself), would give the intelligence committees, not the president, the authority to determine which members were briefed.

In its statement today, the White House argued that such a change would "run afoul of tradition by restricting an important established means by which the President protects the most sensitive intelligence activities that are carried out in the Nation's vital national security interests."

"If the final bill presented to the President contains this provision," read the critical passage of the statement, "the President's senior advisers would recommend a veto."

The language suggests that the President, at least at this juncture, is looking to bolster his standing with the intelligence community. But it could leave the White House facing a bevy of criticism from progressives. Already there are signs of a coming uproar.

Progressives have expressed strong opposition to the president's handling of other matters involving executive authority -- in particular, his willingness to construct an alternative system of indefinite detention and continue the use of the "state secrets" privilege to avoid turning over information to federal courts.

But the issue of congressional oversight of national security affairs is particularly sensitive. Democrats in Congress have repeatedly protested what they said was a deliberate attempt by former President George W. Bush to keep them in the dark about interrogation policy.

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The provision to change the Gang of Eight structure is an attempt to remedy the situation by expanding the number of lawmakers who have access to national security intelligence. The administration argued that this could be a dangerous infringement on the intelligence community's ability to do its work. But it will likely be hard for progressives to see this as anything other than Obama maintaining a Bush-era system.


Excerpts from Wednesday's White House statement are below.

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STATEMENT OF ADMINISTRATION POLICY


H.R. 2701 - Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2010

The Administration supports House passage of an Intelligence Authorization Act for FY 2010 that would support the Intelligence Community (IC) and the Community's mission to conduct intelligence activities to protect the Nation. The Administration appreciates the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence's inclusion in H.R. 2701 of many provisions submitted by the Administration.

Although the Administration is pleased with the many favorable provisions in the bill, the Administration has serious concerns with a number of provisions that would impede the smooth and efficient functioning of the IC and that would raise a number of policy, management, legal, and constitutional concerns. The Administration looks forward to working with the Congress to address these concerns, some of which are outlined below, in order to enhance the effectiveness and capabilities of the IC on behalf of the Nation.

While the Administration appreciates the funding authorized for critical intelligence programs as described in the classified schedule, it has serious concerns with certain funding reductions and other matters in the classified schedule that will be addressed separately by the Administration.

Report on Covert Actions (Section 321). The Administration strongly objects to section 321, which would replace the current "Gang of 8" notification procedures on covert activities. There is a long tradition spanning decades of comity between the branches regarding intelligence matters, and the Administration has emphasized the importance of providing timely and complete congressional notification, and using "Gang of 8" limitations only to meet extraordinary circumstances affecting the vital interests of the United States. Unfortunately, section 321 undermines this fundamental compact between the Congress and the President as embodied in Title V of the National Security Act regarding the reporting of sensitive intelligence matters - an arrangement that for decades has balanced congressional oversight responsibilities with the President's responsibility to protect sensitive national security information. Section 321 would run afoul of tradition by restricting an important established means by which the President protects the most sensitive intelligence activities that are carried out in the Nation's vital national security interests. In addition, the section raises serious constitutional concerns by amending sections 501-503 of the National Security Act of 1947 in ways that would raise significant executive privilege concerns by purporting to require the disclosure of internal Executive branch legal advice and deliberations. Administrations of both political parties have long recognized the importance of protecting the confidentiality of the Executive Branch's legal advice and deliberations. If the final bill presented to the President contains this provision, the President's senior advisers would recommend a veto.


UPDATE: In a statement accompanying Leon Panetta's confirmation in February, Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wisc., suggested that the CIA Director had pledged to end the "Gang of Eight" briefing structure of the Bush years.

"In his meeting with me and at his confirmation hearing, [Panetta] provide assurances that he will put CIA activities squarely within the law and refocus the brave and dedicated professionals of the Agency on what they do best, and on what we need them for the most," said Feingold. "Congressman Panetta also committed to ending the Bush administration's practice of using 'Gang of Eight' briefings to evade its legal responsibility to brief the full congressional intelligence committees, thereby thwarting oversight."

The statement supports one component of what Pelosi is currently trying to do. But not all of it. Panetta did not, at least according to Feingold, endorse the idea that the Intelligence Committee should determine which lawmakers should be briefed.

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I can see how Obama might be trying to save face with more center-right politicians to keep what some Republican members of Congress argue as a question of security. But just as easily, I see Pelosi is only backing this out of some fear that her ignorance of the CIA's activities has recently been scrutinized in the media. And the notion that the Committee should pick and choose who they inform is dangerous. It's as if the specter of Bush is haunting this debate, because I certainly would have left it up to his crew to endorse the idea that they could pick who they did, or did NOT, want in the loop, and therefore have a greater say over the kinds of approval they could garner from Congress. . .

Though, it's not as if the Bush administration ever gave a damn what Congress had to say.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 07/09/2009
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Obama-Reneg-Orama
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More of same ole same ole Bush or is it really the Council on Foreign Relations which has infiltrated Repub and now Dem parties with intent to subvert the country and Constitution? Obama's brain is Zbigniew Brzezinski who is a warmonger and started the CFR and Trilateral for his master Rockafella. They hate democracy and work to destroy the politics and economy all the while playing the American People as fools.
Are we fools or have we been played by secret cults that infiltrated the Government and planted treasonous people on both sides of the political ticket while disabling the Justice Department and Courts the reason we have no law enforcement for War Crimes, Torture, Financial Crimes, etc.?
To stop the cults is simple www.iviewit.tv/senatecultbill.htm which would try for treason anyone involved in cults with oaths to destroy democracy such as CFR, Skull and Bones, Trilateral Commission and Bilderbergers. Try and Fry as always nooses free @ www.iviewit.tv
We are in the midst of a coup on the US that began with the Business Plot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot Zbigniew now appears weekly on his Propaganda channel and Richard Haas pres of CFR visits once a week with Austan Dean Goolsbee (Skull & Bones) Obama Economic Advisor to brainwash the American Sheep. Turn these tv bobbleheads off, what does Mika have in journalistic integrity, nothing.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 AM on 07/09/2009

How much more of this caving in to the Right are Democratic voters willing to tolerate?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 AM on 07/09/2009

Congress needs to override any Obama veto on this.

Congress must bring the Executive Branch back into compliance with the US Constitution and restore the balance of powers. That is paramount.

If it means a Democratic Congress overriding the veto of a "Democratic" president, then that is what will have to happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 AM on 07/09/2009
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Yes! Imagine the glorious bipartisanship! Imagine the moral high ground we progressives could claim!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 07/09/2009
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Obama's got to veto the bill. If he does anything that the CIA doesn't like, they'll kill him. He knows it. He doesn't want to end up like the Kennedy brothers. Your CIA will kill people that get in its way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 AM on 07/09/2009
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There has been absolutely no evidence to prove the Warren Commission
Wrong on any point. All conspiracy clams were disproved, Jim Garrison
Made up evidence and wasted tax payer dollars. Oliver Stone forgot
To put that reality in the move as he does with most of his movies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 AM on 07/09/2009
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There is no way to plausibly claim that as presently configured, the briefing system successfully fulfilled it's purpose. It did no such thing. We already know that the Bush administration engaged in numerous crimes, and we know that these crimes were unimpeded by the least amount of congressional oversight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 AM on 07/09/2009
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I support the President on this one. The gang of 8 is plenty.
And the President should be the one to make that decision.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 AM on 07/09/2009
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I agree, 8 is definitely enough.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 07/09/2009
- NineLives I'm a Fan of NineLives 6 fans permalink

Barack Obama -- George Bush.

Where's the CHANGE; or better yet, where's the DIFFERENCE?

- - - - -

What "Change" has so far accomplished?
* Obama: Willingness to construct an alternative system of indefinite detention and continue the use of the "state secrets" privilege to avoid turning over information to federal courts.
* Health Care Reform - "Single-Payer" off the desk.
* Stem Cell Research - Reinstated the Bush Administration Restrictions.
* Big Bank Prevail-7.6 Billion st QT PROFIT - Not loaning money / Low rates=No profit in loaning money.
* New regs for Finance Industry - Developed by the Finance Industry for the Finance Industry.
* Credit Card Reform - Banks won, Congress won, Obama loses, Consumers / Citizens lose.
*Bankruptcy Reform - Banks won, Homeowners / Consumers / Citizens lose.
* DOMA - Obama "flat-out" lied.
* Gays in the Military - Obama continues "Don't Ask, Don't Tell".
* Release of Wiretap Evidence - Obama will not release evidence to allow prosecution of guilty.
* Missing Bush E-Mails - Obama will not release E-Mails to allow prosecution of guilty.
* Detainee & Torture Photos - Obama will not release photos to allow prosecution of guilty.
* Valerie Plame Wilson - Obama will not institute investigation into Cheney's involvement.
* Fuel Cell Development - Obama and Energy Secretary Steven Chu cutting hydrogen fuel cell funding from the fiscal year 2010 budget making the oil cartel very happy.

Time will show Obama to be the big loser.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 AM on 07/09/2009
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If a man does nothing with his life, like you for example, and tells everyone he meets that his failure is because someone else always stood in the way of his success, so he never attempted anything because, why try, you'll just fail, then your reward...

Is that you get to stay who and what you are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 AM on 07/09/2009
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Your accusation is an easy way for you to justify your blind obedience to Obama.

I voted for him, I'm a liberal democrat, and I have never voted for a republican for president in all of the forty-five years that I have been voting.

As far as my personal resume which you have attacked, I'm very happy with the level of education i achieved in my life, my 44 years of marriage, thirty years as a medical professional, and the fact that I don't know you personally.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 AM on 07/09/2009
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Who cares what the white house thinks. You have a veto proof senate now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 07/09/2009
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Veto override is two thirds. What just changed with Franken's swearing-in was that unanimity in the Democratic caucus (like that'll ever happen) would defeat a purely-Republican filibuster.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 AM on 07/09/2009
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In its statement today, the White House argued that such a change would "run afoul of tradition by restricting an important established means by which the President protects the most sensitive intelligence activities that are carried out in the Nation's vital national security interests."

Protects from whom? And who decides if the activites are, in fact, at all in the interest of national security? Run afoul of tradition? What tradition would that be? The one that gave us Iran/Contra? The one that gave us assassination programs? The one that gave us death squads in Central America?

What is wrong with this picture when the people's representatives in a government that's supposed to be of the people, and for the people, are essentially considered an obstacle?

Dammit, it's just another big lie. Congress isn't even allowed to do a vigorous independent investigation of 9/11. Senators or Congressman who trie to bring some measure of accountability and disclosure, as with the Church hearings, are pushed out of government...

This is simply not a democracy anymore by any reasonable measure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 PM on 07/08/2009

For Obama having run as the "change" candidate, he certainly is a fierce defender of "tradition" AKA the status quo. He explicitly defended "tradition" with DOMA and now he's doing it with the CIA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 07/09/2009
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Sadly, you're right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 07/09/2009
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Very true. I voted for him. I had high (and obviously rather unrealistic hopes).

I suspect Obama will be able to quietly slide through and uphold more destructive policies because he is rather likable and eloquent. Many are blissfully blinded by that and are more likely to remain blind to actions of deception.
Sux beyond words.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 07/10/2009
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Yes, time to call it a night, but not before you go outside and look at the moon. Then, thank your god, your mother, your dentist, your accountant, yourself, your whoever got you to where you are (or arent') for simple pleasures.

Signed,
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 07/08/2009
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New main but put on some dark glasses before you click: the letters in the headline on the new thread are about 40 feet high and done in a kind of in-your-face shade of red. Oh, and they are a little misleading, too...but you'd be expecting that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 PM on 07/08/2009
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Time for this d0g to call it a night. Have a good evening and a better tomorrow.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 07/08/2009
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Even the d0gs are leaving.
Geeez.
Night rabid

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 PM on 07/08/2009
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 07/08/2009
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Nite Strega

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 07/08/2009
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I'm listening to it now Strega. It's beautiful. Is this new age?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 PM on 07/08/2009

speaking of youtube, have you watched this? It's just too much - but I gotta say ringing very true, if it isn't coincidental...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 AM on 07/09/2009
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Well time for me to turn in, Good nite all, thanks for the fun evening

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 07/08/2009
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Nitey Naga!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 07/08/2009
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Night!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 PM on 07/08/2009
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Nite. Sweet dreams.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 07/08/2009
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Nite lady!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 07/08/2009
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Sweet dreams.

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