El Paso Times:
EL PASO -- Two gay men kissed at a Chico's Tacos restaurant, prompting guards to eject them and a police officer to endorse their ouster.
Civil-rights lawyers say the security staff was out of line. Police, though, contend that a business such as a restaurant can refuse service to anybody, any time.
Deborah Calla: The Magic Of Kissing
I was getting my nails done when I saw a couple kissing across the street. As I knew I was going to be hostage to...
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I figured it out. For years some of us have believed and argued that many straight men are threatened by the sight of romantic affection between two men because it may arouse their own hidden homosexual desires and therefore threaten their masculinity. I think the truth is that everyone knows it takes more guts for a man to kiss another man than to punch another man. Some folks just can't stand that, even in the face of public ridicule and scorn, gay people the nation over courageously continue to be true to themselves and to openly love one another. I pity those who place undue emphasis on what is "normal" or "masculine" in our society. To enforce such boundaries on one's self is to deny yourself all the joy and beauty life can offer when other people's opinions are of no concern.
I have plenty of straight male friends that don't care when two dudes are making out in the seat next to them. It's only those that are incredibly insecure and ignorant that have any issue with it.
Hence the words "many straight men", I have many straight male friend who are comfortable with the entire spectrum of human sexuality and don't limit themselves to a narrow idea of masculinity. They tend to be the minority though.
Scary when they would rather fight a a man than love one.
Nice post. I could not agree more.
Yeah that's it!!!!
If you're gay you're gay.
If you find the behavior distasteful, guess what, YOU"RE GAY TOO!!!!
Hahahaah!!!
Maybe you are not gay but just closed minded.
LOL! You pegged 'em.
What a perfect way to distort everything I said. I didn't say you were gay if you were uncomfortable with gay behavior, I simply implied that you were threatened by the courage it takes to be openly gay. But fall back on twisting your opponents words, it always seems to work.
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"Psychoanalytic theory holds that homophobia --the fear, anxiety, anger, discomfort and aversion that some ostensibly heterosexual people hold for gay individuals -- is the result of repressed homosexual urges that the person is either unaware of or denies. A study appearing in the August issue of the Journal of Abnormal Psychology, published by the American Psychological Association (APA), provides new empirical evidence that is consistent with that theory..."
Didn't you know? The whole world is turning gay!
Those who aren't comfortable with the sight of 2 gay men kissing will have to get used to it. Their disapproval will not stop gay men from pursuing equal rights.
Many states and cities have laws on the books protecting their freedom of expression, and freedom from discrimination.
As more people actually see how other civilized societies grant ALL their citizens equal rights (Europe, Canada), a younger generation of Americans will advocate for the moral choice - equality for all, and an older generation partially comprised of immoral bigots will die off.
It's just a matter of time.
Yeah!
Life, Liberty and the Right to Make Out at Taco Stands!!!!!!
Hey, if straights can do it, then I can too.
Absolutely!!! I would love to see more LGBT engaged in PDA.
If for no other reason than to annoy bigo*ted freaks like yourself.
Gay men in this case... LGBT in general though.
And should any gays find themselves emboldened by your call to arms, are in my neck of the woods, and decide to show this filth will have the pleasure of meeting my city's finest. This is inappropriate behavior regardless, but making it public is just disrespectful. Your "right" to gay PDA ends where my right NOT to see it begins!
CLOSE YOUR EYES THEN.
You're a despicable human being. Disgusting.
So if you kissing your (whatever) in public offends me, I should call the police?
Whatcha afraid of, California? Afraid your 'choice not to be gay' didn't take, or something?
Do you really live in California? If so it must be in one the barren craplands that lie outside the major cities. Perhaps you should move to the Deep South where more of your kind reside because your attitude is a good way to get knocked by a hollow in my neighborhood.
Catch my drift?
You have to get your head around the fact that most Americans have no problem with everyone having the same rights under the law.
However, that doesn't mean they want to see two men making out while standing in line at the local taco stand.
Go figure!!
WRONG.
It's a legal issue... when the police arrive, the officers threaten a criminal citation against the gay patrons, citing an outdated state law banning homosexual conduct which WAS OVERTURNED BY THE U.S. SUPREME COURT IN 2003! (Lawrence v. Texas).
Furthermore, officers incorrectly assert that businesses have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason DESPITE a 2003 El Paso City Council resolution which outrightly bans discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.
When did a kiss turn into making out?
Get the facts straight (so to speak)
So you are obviously not including yourself among "most Americans".
Homosexuality is moral? I beg to differ...
Since the morality in this country is based mostly on majority and on the judeo chrtistian ethics, you might be forgiven for thinking in archaic ways. However, in analysis, since God created all, then it cannot be bad unless it causes harm to another or is intrinsically evil, which, again, is based upon the same premise.. By setting yourself up to judge what is moral or letting others shape you so you actually do believe that, you are in fact, not following the real lessons preached in the New Testament, which, Jesus pointed out, was to be the good news.....t
Come on people!
This ain't exactly Rosa Parks, now is it?
it kind of is. If you were discriminated for being who you are, you'd be mad as hell too.
Theyare not being discriminated against who they are, but what they did.....bi
If you don't fight for your rights and other peoples rights at every turn, who will fight for yours when they are threatened.
Every example of homophobia and discrimination MUST be challenged. Every example of racism MUST be challenged. Hell... I would fight for your rights if the government started a program to sterilize the ignorant.
Sorry.
I'm not fighting for the rights of homosexual demons to make out in public.
Actually it kind of is. If you were discriminated against for the simple fact of who you are, then you'd be pretty mad too.
What inappropriate behavior did Rosa Parks display?
Now here is a man who should definitely be arrested for kissing his boyfriend in public.
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is that the Man-on-Dog action Rick Santorum was obsessed with?
Yes, I believe that's where it all started.
Who knew homosexual demons like tacos?
To be honest with you I've never seen anyone making out at my local taco joint.
Maybe I just live a sheltered life.
In El Paso, EVERYBODY goes to Chico's. It's a much beloved regional institution, kinda like LA's In-n-Out Burger.
Maybe not so much any more! They are getting TERRIBLE press right now.
grease factories?
Sheltered enough to assume that every time someone LBGT kisses someone, they're 'making out?'
Maybe its just a custom in the homosexual demon community to kiss before eating tacos.
Can somebody comment on that?
My family and I are offended every time we see CaliforniaLove out with his "wife". It's not natural.
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Awesome!
good
You said it.
It really doesn't matter what any of us thinks of this. Either it's against the law or it's not. Based on what others have posted about local and state ordinances, it's not illegal.
Therefore, the OFFICER broke the law.
Whay aren't all you law-and-order "decency" types calling for his arrest?
Because the posters here have a long history of not knowing what they're talking about, that's why.
There are a lot of ignorant homophobes making comments here. I guess you are proud of yourselves.
Well, somebody has to be proud of them, I guess.
I'd like to see a glam remake of "GREASE". Only instead of a heterosexual couple like Danny and Sandy..it would be a homosexual couple. I'd like to see Adam Lambert play the lead.
You're pretty creepy, dude. May you never cross paths with the men in my family..
are you a man or a woman?
What would happen exactly, if citizensrus crossed paths with the men in your family?
Do the men in your family know you are using them to make threats over the internet. That's rather cowardly of you. It gives me insight into your character. Not very pretty.
Just because some hetersexuals do not feel comfortable seeing 2 gay men kiss does not mean they should not have the same right as het. couples to kiss. EQUAL RIGHTS IS NOT UP FOR POPULAR VOTE. I am disgusted when straight couples grope each other in public but I don't call the police.
GROW UP AMERICA.
Your Rights End Where Another Person's Begin
huh? So, are you going to keep me from kissing my husband in public? Try it!
oh look the self loathing closet case is back, feeling extra pathetic today?
You and Sarah Palin apparently like to imagine rights that don't exist.
There is no right out there that protects you from being offended or forces other people to shackle themselves to your psychologi
Basically, you expect, in a fascistic manner, for everyone to tiptoe around you so that you don't have to face your issues.
It's cute, in a very said way that is full of epic fail.
"I was about eight or nine years old when I learned that some people are gay…what I do remember is the clear, smooth, non-judgmental way in which I was told. The scene took place in the den of my family’s Pacific Palisades home. My father and I were watching an old Rock Hudson and Doris Day movie. At the moment when Hudson and Doris Day kissed, I said to my father ‘That looks weird.” Curious, he asked me to identify exactly what was weird about a man and woman kissing, since I’d certainly seen such a thing before. All I knew was that something about this particular man and woman was, to me, strange. My father gently explained that Mr. Hudson didn’t really have a lot of experience kissing women; in fact, he would much prefer to be kissing a man. This was said in the same tone that would be used if he had been telling me about people with different colored eyes, and I accepted without question that this whole kissing thing wasn’t reserved just for men and women” Patti Davis
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What a nice story, thanks for the link.
Awesome!
There is a time and place for everything
Can you phone me next time you and your significant other go out to eat? Or out in town, period. I'm going to be following you to make sure you remember to never show any affection to him/her. No simple peck on the lips, there's a time and place for that and it's not ever outside your bedroom with the curtains closed, twelve padlocks on the door locked, and sound proof walls. Under the covers too, of course.
If I thought you were an adult, I just might, but your instant gratification needs are not mine...Sho
Do you mean the gay guys or the guards?
Oh, lovers been kissing one another on the lips in public since time began.
Does anybody remember the article that was posted here a couple of weeks back, about the gay strip club that wasn't allowing bachelorette parties in the club anymore? I think they said their behavior was inappropriate. It had like 10 comments..
I'm really hoping you know the difference between a strip club and a taco restaurant?
I thought "Taco Restaurant" was just a code word for strip club.
i'm thinking maybe some 'shock and awe'.
what if thousands of lgbt people invaded el paso for some sexy time protest?
lots of public displays of affection.
and of course a parade.
and maybe a dance later that night.
Tourist dollars for everyone but the haters... But would there be enough businesses that aren't?
I think the city's Finest with their truncheons and an outraged public would make short work of you all.
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First Posted: 07- 9-09 11:21 PM | Updated: 08- 9-09 05:12 AM