Morgan Stanley Turns Downgraded CDOs Into AAA Securities

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First Posted: 07- 9-09 08:34 AM   |   Updated: 07- 9-09 08:38 AM

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July 8 (Bloomberg) -- Morgan Stanley plans to repackage a downgraded collateralized debt obligation backed by leveraged loans into new securities with AAA ratings in the first transaction of its kind, said two people familiar with the sale.

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July 8 (Bloomberg) -- Morgan Stanley plans to repackage a downgraded collateralized debt obligation backed by leveraged loans into new securities with AAA ratings in the first transaction of its kind,...
July 8 (Bloomberg) -- Morgan Stanley plans to repackage a downgraded collateralized debt obligation backed by leveraged loans into new securities with AAA ratings in the first transaction of its kind,...
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- Zen0469 I'm a Fan of Zen0469 71 fans permalink
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Who better to package the junk than Morgan Stanley?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 07/09/2009
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 330 fans permalink
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Articles I'd much rather see on the front page:

Iran Security Moves To Crush New Protests
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/10/world/middleeast/10iran.html?ref=global-home

Fewer than expected file for unemployment
http://money.cnn.com/2009/07/09/news/economy/initial_claims/?postversion=2009070909

Sotomayor tough on white-collar criminals
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gQN_YcghxG5TCHtUeLCEOrrHnf3gD99AVC080

Afghan blast takes 25, Mostly chi ldren
http://in.reuters.com/article/southAsiaNews/idINIndia-40927920090709

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 AM on 07/09/2009
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Afghan blast takes 25, Mostly chi ldren is a headline I hope to never see again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 07/09/2009
- Strega I'm a Fan of Strega 388 fans permalink
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sorrowfully agree

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 07/09/2009
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 330 fans permalink
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Perhaps I should have said, up for discussion, rather than see.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 07/09/2009

To ChiGuy: re - "Articles I'd much rather see on the front page:"

You may be right, however since Money, aka our Financial Systems effects and affects all the other topics you listed, hang in there, hold those thoughts, our collective (and individual too) Brains are capable of handling it all....

As for our thoughts on this piece ~
We thought Huff was writing a Travel-ler beware piece, referring to the garbage strike in Toronto, Canada, now in its 3rd week.... Having seen other travel pictures warning about 'piles of garbage'!!!!
Some one at Huff has a nice sense of humour, eh....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 07/09/2009
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Now that I've had a few minutes to calm down it occurred to me that the wealthy were hurt by the economy too.

Can you imagine how all those multi-millionaires must feel as they realized that they may never become multi-billionaires?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 07/09/2009
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Seems like it is well past time for Obama to clean house. When Holder going to indict and jail these Wall street clowns?

it is time to get rid of the Treasury Secretary, Chief Economic Advisor, and federal reserve chairman who are propping these leeches up on the backs of workers. The time is now to get rid of the Sachs apologists and hire some sheriffs to monitor Wall Street.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 07/09/2009

I wholeheartedly agree!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 07/09/2009
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I think no one has suffered more from PTSD (post traumatic scrub disorder) than I. Therefore, I'll be offering Reality-based, Rogerian, RET, and Gestalt classes at this time each day to assist those who need it. Please sign up below if you'd like to be a part of these sessions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 07/09/2009
- ddDinah I'm a Fan of ddDinah 22 fans permalink

You know we've heard HOW the Bush administration and now the Obama administration have kept our country safe, well I would like to ask, who is keeping us safe from the financial terrorists. WHO?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 07/09/2009
- pfc1369 I'm a Fan of pfc1369 103 fans permalink
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Why all the debate about whether or not this is a "Christian nation"?

Is it not run according to the Golden Rule?:

Dem whats got the gold, makes the rules.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 07/09/2009
- PATina I'm a Fan of PATina 229 fans permalink
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Good one!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 07/09/2009
- ddDinah I'm a Fan of ddDinah 22 fans permalink

Now if our Government has done their job, this bunch won't get away with it, if they have put the right regulations and regulators in charge we shouldn't see another mess like the first. If not, well some elected officals had better pack their bags.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 07/09/2009
- BigBagel I'm a Fan of BigBagel 29 fans permalink
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Hey, don't buy the securities and the next time a bank wants a bailout let them go into bankruptcy and go through an orderly reorganization.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 AM on 07/09/2009
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Banks don't go through bankruptcy.
Ever.

They are taken over by the FDIC and either sold or liquidated or a combination of the two.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 07/09/2009
- Chubbster I'm a Fan of Chubbster 34 fans permalink

What kind of fool would buy the stuff? And if they do they deserve all the downside they can get.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 07/09/2009
- PATina I'm a Fan of PATina 229 fans permalink
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The ones who know they will get bailed out by us... because they will be deemed to big to fail.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 07/09/2009

There you have it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 07/09/2009
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New main, btw....and it s*ucks too

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 07/09/2009
- adey I'm a Fan of adey 228 fans permalink
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Already?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 07/09/2009
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believe it or not, yes

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 07/09/2009
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Say, I almost forgot to tell you how much I loved how you were putting down some v*icious t*r0ll in the wee hours of the morning. I can't even remember the name but some of the comments were gems

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 07/09/2009
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 637 fans permalink
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They don't call em masters of the universe for nothin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 AM on 07/09/2009
- GaBu2 I'm a Fan of GaBu2 56 fans permalink
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Can I repackage my downgraded credit rating to a top tier credit rating?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 07/09/2009
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 255 fans permalink
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Stop scru_bbing, Hu_ffpo. Stop the p0lice state stuff or some of us are going to tell O'Reilly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 07/09/2009
- adey I'm a Fan of adey 228 fans permalink
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You vill post vat ve vant you to post!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 AM on 07/09/2009
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 255 fans permalink
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Yes, and it can't be anything that would either expose the dishonesty of our headlines, a pattern with us, or constitute any kind of solution to a problem we want you you to think is beyond human ability to solve. We want you to be as sp00ked (uncomfortable) as possible during your time here. We want you @ngry and even in desp@ir. As in :beside yourself.

In a word, we want clicks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 07/09/2009
- RattleCat I'm a Fan of RattleCat 241 fans permalink
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Ah, so you have an ex on Hu.ff.y's staff also?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 07/09/2009
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 255 fans permalink
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Not an ex but, at the very least, it is someone who either h@tes my gu_ts or is best friends with someone who does.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 07/09/2009
- RattleCat I'm a Fan of RattleCat 241 fans permalink
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I tried to ask this before, and it was not deemed worthy for this grand board.

Now I'm just an old engineer who doesn't pretend to understand all these derivative variations, so I'm hoping we have a professional bond trader here who can help.

This looks to me like MS is taking an existing GW bond pool, currently rated below AAA, and splitting it into two new bond pools. One pool contains only the derivatives that still can be rated at AAA. The other is all the junk.

Is that basically it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 07/09/2009

Yup ...

Its like taking a can of spam, separating the quality meat parts and the snout pigs tail and jowls.

Then repackaging the quality parts as grade "A" ham and the snout and other stuff as "potted" meat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 07/09/2009
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