Dem Rep: CIA Officials Could Be Charged For Lying To Congress

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First Posted: 07-10-09 12:01 PM   |   Updated: 07-10-09 01:33 PM

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Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.), chair of a key intelligence subcommittee, called for an investigation Friday to determine if the CIA lied to the Congress, citing "systematic deception by the CIA."

In a letter to Rep. Silvestre Reyes (D-Texas), chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, Schakowsky says that such deception amounts to "a possible violation of the National Security Act and, at a minimum, a blatant disregard of this committee's oversight authority."

In an interview with the Huffington Post, Schakowsky added that the investigation could lead to charges against CIA officials being forwarded to the Department of Justice.

"I think it may be illegal that they failed to inform Congress," said Schakowsky, referring to a secret program about which CIA Director Leon Panetta only recently briefed Congress. Schakowsky said she couldn't speak about the program specifically. She could only say that the program was launched shortly after Sept. 11, 2001 and ended the day before Panetta briefed Congress. She said she could not say whether she thought the program itself was illegal.

"On at least one occasion the committee was actually lied to," said Schakowsky, unable to provide details but backing up an assertion made by Reyes earlier in the week. "There is a pattern here."

Schakowsky said that the recent meeting with Panetta was an "incredibly serious briefing." Following the meeting, seven House Democrats wrote a letter to Panetta urging him to retract an earlier statement he'd made, in which he assert that it is not the CIA's "policy or practice" to mislead the Congress. In response, CIA spokesman George Little appeared to concede that the Panetta had told the committee that CIA had, in practice, misled Congress in the past, but that Panetta had been the one to alert Congress to it in the briefing.

"As the letter from these six representatives notes, it was the CIA that took the initiative to notify the oversight committees," Little said.

Little, however, said that such an inference is incorrect. "Director Panetta did not say--and I didn't either--that the CIA misled Congress," he told the Huffington Post.

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The committee members, in their letter, however, insist that he told them the CIA did just that.

Schakowsky wants the CIA assertion tested by an investigation. "We take very seriously this issue of being lied to, being misled," she said.

Meanwhile, President Obama has threatened to veto congressional efforts to expand the number of members who are eligible to be briefed on top-secret matters. Obama's veto threat, it's presumed, stems from a mistrust in the ability of Congress to keep the secret secret.

Schakowsky says the administration position is more politics than substance. "They'd like to control the leaks themselves," she said.

Read the letter:


Representative Silvestre Reyes

Chairman

House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence

HVC-304, U.S. Capitol

Washington, DC 20515

Dear Chairman Reyes:

Over the course of the past eight years, Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) leaders briefing the House Intelligence Committee have purposefully withheld information from Congress dealing with the national security of our country. The systematic deception by the CIA is a possible violation of the National Security Act and, at a minimum, a blatant disregard of this committee's oversight authority.

I appreciate that you have begun taking steps to "gather information on the recent notification" from CIA Director Leon Panetta and that you are considering opening a full investigation. It is clear to me that the revelations Mr. Panetta provided create an imperative for an investigation to begin immediately by either the Oversight & Investigations Subcommittee that I chair or the full committee.

It is inexcusable for the CIA to lie, mislead, or withhold information from the Congress. The Intelligence Committee depends on the presentation of reliable and complete information when deliberating important decisions that impact the national security of the United States. Past practices of the CIA compromise the integrity of this committee and undermine the ability of committee members to fulfill our oversight obligations as members to the Select Committee. To ensure accountability and restore faith in the system, I strongly urge you to promptly launch an investigation into this critical matter.

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Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.), chair of a key intelligence subcommittee, called for an investigation Friday to determine if the CIA lied to the Congress, citing "systematic deception by the CIA." In a...
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Get that bulldog Patrick Fitzgerald to investigate. He has no stake in the outcome and has just about everyone's respect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 07/10/2009
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I would love to see Fitzgerald get another chance, especially with the bad guys weakend just a bit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 07/10/2009
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One has to assume readiing about this, the vast surveillance programs, the "renditions," the torture, and so forth, that Congress has only nominal, but no real, authority. They are only a rubber stamp for the executive branch. In fact, what it appears is that we have government by secret police, who make their own policies with no oversight.

This being so, it means that the secret police agencies, the NSA, CIA, and other related organizations (of which we may have no knowledge) have overthrown the legally elected government in a bloodless coup and now run things. This also implies that those police agencies are traitors, have betrayed the United States, and their agents have committed high treason against this nation.

What do we have to fear from "communists," from "terrorists," compared to these most dangerous and tyrannical of criminals who inhabit the halls of power in these secret police agencies? What punishment befits the crime of treason?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 PM on 07/10/2009
- marley22 I'm a Fan of marley22 14 fans permalink
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It's called Unitary Executive Theory. It's been going on for many administrations; Bush's version was on steroids. The problem is reigning it in - no sitting President will agree to reductions in power. What Bush gave himself, Obama now yields.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 07/10/2009
- robadeaux I'm a Fan of robadeaux 11 fans permalink

The "Executive" works for the corporatists... who pay the NSA, CIA, and all of the watchers... it is too late... for real "freedom"... now, you are free to be in debt and work for the enrichment of the oligarchs. And maybe the theocrats... but it's a done deal.
Luckily, some of the better traits of the Humanoid carbon units are denial and self delusion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 07/10/2009

it looks like the floodgates are about to open at the CIA , where a lot of jail time has been piling up for years for the renegade miscreants who seemed to have reveled in being above the law and breaking it with what they thought was immunity. And desecrating it for political and amoral reasons I would assume that there are many honest CIA associates who are gleeful and relieved to see the truth finally come out, after having to suffer for all those years while all of these scandalous shenanigans were being perpetrated in the name of America. And now they are eager to see the bad guys go down and won't hesitate to drop a dime and testify against them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 07/10/2009
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Just maybe that one time the GP should have shut their mouths ,and not criticize Representative Palosi....Pandora's Box can be a bummer.....so interested in attacking....now GOP live with it, and the rumors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 07/10/2009
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The logic doesn't work for me ...

The Bush administration briefed Congress, or at least the "gang of 8", on waterboarding, rendition, warrantless wiretapping, CIA prisons, and we don't know what other operations. They clearly and correctly thought that they could get anything past Congress. They documented their programs and justifications in memos that they knew would become public in later years (yes, some of the justifications were lame, but they were documented for posterity).

My guess is that this was somebody's pet idea that never really worked and never went anywhere, and that Congress wasn't briefed because there really wasn't anything significant to report, and investigations won't go anywhere. Which leads to the question - what do the Democrats in Congress expect to gain by playing politics with the CIA?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 07/10/2009
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And santa claus flies from the north pole every dec 24. it is something, the members briefed were stunnedin to silence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 PM on 07/10/2009
- sviolette I'm a Fan of sviolette 100 fans permalink
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I think Panetta is CIA not congress. He is the one that admitted to the lies and or misinformation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 07/10/2009
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Panetta is a pawn for the Obama administration. He'll say whatever he can to make Bush look bad and Obama look better.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 07/13/2009
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Panetta's big dilemma - and Obama's is their reluctance to prosecute people who were following orders from above. Those unconscionable legal opinions from the Bush administration made people think they had cover.

I say prosecute them all anyway, and the one who were following orders, give them the lightest sentences, or even better, cut deals with them.

Find the ones most responsible and throw the book at them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 07/10/2009
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They didn't cut deals with any Germans or Japanese that were "just following orders". We don't need to cut no stinkin' deals with these criminals.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 PM on 07/10/2009
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The whole point of the CIA is subterfuge and lying. That’s their job. They are career people. Members of Congress come and go. Lying to Congress is really no big thing to these people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 PM on 07/10/2009
- sviolette I'm a Fan of sviolette 100 fans permalink
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May be no big thing but still illegal to lie to congress.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 07/10/2009
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I think the world would applaud us if we rounded up all these Rethug traitors and put them in jail.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 07/10/2009
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So would future generations.

Our children are going to learn about this and know we did not do anything to stop it, or to stop it from ever happening again.

We owe our children and the world this much.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 07/10/2009
- SueInCA I'm a Fan of SueInCA 308 fans permalink
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your mouth to President Obamas ears

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 PM on 07/10/2009
- robadeaux I'm a Fan of robadeaux 11 fans permalink

still, it'll never happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 07/10/2009
- sviolette I'm a Fan of sviolette 100 fans permalink
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Try as you may Pelosi will never take the fall for you neo-con's war criminals.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 07/10/2009

Yeah! Beware the eeeviiilll neo-con! Ahhhhh!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 07/10/2009
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Must-read article about Panetta in a recent New Yorker. You can Google it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 07/10/2009
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Do it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 07/10/2009
- LeeCalif I'm a Fan of LeeCalif 77 fans permalink

Oh, I see. The Congress will go after the renegades in the CIA, but Obama doesn't have the spine
to go after torturers who have drug this country into the mud.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 07/10/2009
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That too is the job of Congress.

Although Obama could try to lead them...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 07/10/2009
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The sad thing is that if the Obama Admin. or congress really do go after the criminals from the Bush Admin, it will open up a can of worms that will tear this country apart, and consume every other issue that Obama wants to do for the country. The truth will eventually come out, but it may take years. History will judge Bush and Cheney et. al. and it will not be kind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 PM on 07/10/2009
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It would rip open the scab over the festering wound that keeps us at each other and unable to move on and be proud of our country again.

Maybe not such a bad thing, that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 07/10/2009
- retromega I'm a Fan of retromega 17 fans permalink

I'd say this letter is hard to disagree with if you want a democratic system of government.

I'm sure that there will be disagreement, though, with this. Bush did a lot better job of bringing democracy to Iraq than he did preserving democracy in the US.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 07/10/2009
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1041 fans permalink
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He brought theocracy to Iraq, and built a cult following in America...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 07/10/2009
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When did he bring democracy to Iraq? What they have in Iraq is a government that Bush placed in power. It's far from a democracy. Iran has more democracy than Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 07/10/2009
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They don't vote in Iraq?
When f oolish statements like that are made, it really makes all the rest of your statements mute.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 07/10/2009
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Within 24 hours of CIA director Panetta finding out about this secret, About the time it takes him to research, ask questions he turns it over to congress. I tell you this is really hot stuff. So hot even Director Panetta wasn't told. But at least some cia employee/s released these document. Too me this could signal a change of attitudes in the cia. Otherwise, how would they have the guts to do so, knowing the retaliation that can be forthcoming if they had done so earlier.

I think the person worrying the most is Dick Cheney. I think he feels what he thought his click and good buddies in the CIA would continue looking out for him. This secret coming out makes him come to the realization, that his s*** is really finished.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:23 PM on 07/10/2009
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agree with one exception:
the problem wasn't with the career agents. instead, the problem was the previous political appointees.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 07/10/2009
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Career ...... agents?

Perhaps you meant career analysts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 07/10/2009
- sviolette I'm a Fan of sviolette 100 fans permalink
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Think maybe Cheney pi$$ed off someone in the CIA?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 07/10/2009
- SueInCA I'm a Fan of SueInCA 308 fans permalink
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probably true I hope he did a good job of it lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:44 PM on 07/10/2009
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Cheney never liked/trusted the CIA. He continually did end-arounds on them. I guarantee there's no love lost at CIA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 07/10/2009
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Isn't it obvious? The CIA is packed with GOP loyalists and probably has been since Nixon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 07/10/2009
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Yes, please do not forget that Poppy (the first) Bush was the head of the CIA before he was Pres.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 07/10/2009
- SueInCA I'm a Fan of SueInCA 308 fans permalink
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During the Nixon years.............figure that one out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 07/10/2009
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Panetta definitely has his hands full with the CIA after 8 years of bush. Hopefully he'll allow for some accountability.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 07/10/2009
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We need full investigations of the entire Bush administration and all of their 'underlings', and then prosecute everyone found to be involved in criminal activity at the behest of the highest levels of gubment. We will not be a free country until we do. They have already admitted enough to warrant it. I think this current President is trying to protect 'the office', rather than the rule of law. AG Holder should have already arrested them, and be investigating them, thoroughly. Let the chips fall where they may.....,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 07/10/2009
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Republicans on committee obstruct justice exactly the same way they obstruct government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 07/10/2009
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I guess that is why Obama has said to look forward not backward.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 PM on 07/10/2009
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It must tie too many people from our country to other countries.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 07/10/2009
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woo woo

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 PM on 07/10/2009
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You think the jails are overcrowded now? Wait till this is over with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 07/10/2009

If no one is willing to even talk about these possibly illegal programs, how will these programs and the people who instigated them ever be held accountable?

Wouldn't it be refreshing to hear someone put their career in jeopardy for the benefit of our nation and say, "this may cost me my job. It may land me in jail, but the truth has got to be known by the American people. Today at a classified meeting with Director of the (fill in the name of the director of any federal agency) said ___________. The program he described is patently illegal. The American people need to know about it and the people responsible need to be held accountable."

Of course in our world of re-election is more important than anything, that will never happen.
Our elected representatives are scared, weak, cowardly, and only beholden to what they believe are in their own best interests, not the best interests of America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 07/10/2009
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That way if it is not illegal the Supreme Court can tell the member it is ok and they can document the concern without the public knowing the secret. If it is illegal the the .....hits the fan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 07/10/2009
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Why they cut my first post I have no idea. This comment is nothing without the first one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 07/10/2009
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Good post.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 07/10/2009
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Yes it would be refreshing, but sometimes even then it's covered up and never sees the light of day. Like in the case of Former FBI Agent Mike German.

Why the FBI Squelched an Investigation of a Post-9/11 Meeting Between White Supremacist and Islamic Extremists
By Mark Levine, AlterNet. Posted July 9, 2009.

http://www.alternet.org/rights/141161/why_the_fbi_squelched_an_investigation_of_a_post-9_11_meeting_between_white_supremacist_and_islamic_extremists/?page=3

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 07/10/2009
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This is much more than one CIA agent we are talking about. It's about half of the CIA conducting criminal activity, including but not limitted to war crimes, in our name.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 07/10/2009
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Because they are paralyzed by the national security rules and it is considered treason to tell the truth about what they hear.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 07/10/2009
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