Joe Scarborough, Pelosi Critic, Now Laments Unfair Criticism Of Pelosi

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First Posted: 07-10-09 12:12 PM   |   Updated: 08-10-09 05:12 AM

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MSNBC's Joe Scarborough has made it a regular habit to catch the vapors on air after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi criticized the Central Intelligence Agency. Now he's lamenting that Nancy Pelosi, "a friend of mine from Congress" has "caught a lot of grief" for that criticism. The big takeaway? Starbucks apparently has a Rohypnol Frappuccino.

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From the first word, to the last, I concur with the Washington Independent's Spencer Ackerman:

I carry no brief for Pelosi, and Pelosi could indeed be misrepresenting what CIA actually briefed to her, even though the additional questions about its briefing schedule are numerous. But if Scarborough had bothered reading, say, an acclaimed history of the CIA, he would immediately see that it's extremely well documented that the CIA has often misled Congress about sensitive intelligence programs. Basic due diligence, unfortunately, would get in the way of his preferred storyline, so don't expect anything like this latest self-induced humiliation to prompt an on-air reflection of the way "Morning Joe" operates. The unaccountable ability of some cable TV hosts to just pretend to their audiences like they know what they're talking about is really staggering.

In the first place, I remember how inane it was that anyone in the media was shocked to hear someone suggest that the CIA had been less than truthful. There's a long and proud and bipartisan history of that, and yet somehow Pelosi ended up as an unprecedented and shocking agency critic.

But secondly, there's this whole issue of "TV hosts... pretend[ing] to their audiences like they know what they're talking about." Spencer Ackerman, for example, has been to Iraq, he's been to Afghanistan, he's interviewed David Petraeus, he's up on all the current writing, knows all the major players, and attends every picayune foreign policy conference and congressional hearing that comes along. To the best of knowledge, he's never, ever been zinged by Zbigniew Brzezinski. He's precisely the sort of person that Scarborough could bring onto his show to present insight and information from a highly informed perspective. Yet, to Scarborough, Ackerman is just a Cheeto-eating, basement-dwelling blogger, with no credibility. Oh well, Spencer's not the one literally contradicting himself on cable teevee.

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MSNBC's Joe Scarborough has made it a regular habit to catch the vapors on air after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi criticized the Central Intelligence Agency. Now he's lamenting that Nancy Pelosi, "a fr...
MSNBC's Joe Scarborough has made it a regular habit to catch the vapors on air after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi criticized the Central Intelligence Agency. Now he's lamenting that Nancy Pelosi, "a fr...
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- zukervati I'm a Fan of zukervati 25 fans permalink
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It's the new post-election game with Mika and Joe. Him, the Pelosi defender and her the vanguard for Palin. Both have started to s/u/ck big time - I've quit watching the scratch-my-back duo and have moved on to "thankfully non-Starbucks sponsored" CNN.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 PM on 07/14/2009

cnn had on cheneys ex aide mary matlin stating that obama in trouble- cia leak is all about obama bad ratings

other country first folks claim it is political for pelosi

ohh my goodness

does the destruction ever stop with these people

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:58 PM on 07/13/2009
- Neopolitan I'm a Fan of Neopolitan 4 fans permalink

Scarborough didn't know what he was talking about the first time when he called her a liar and he obviously doesn't have a clue as to the truth now. He wasn't in the meetings when Pelosi was briefed and he doesn't know what Pannetta said. It is amazing how these potato-heads on televison try to connect the dots based on so little information.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 07/13/2009
- Pablo175 I'm a Fan of Pablo175 16 fans permalink

Don't defend Pelosi, she's evil. Her poll numbers are worse than Bush or Chaney. No one believes her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 07/13/2009

how about the clip with Ed when the host stated cheney speaks to cia daily

When Schultz stated he thought Cheney wanted the US to be attacked

the host - mojo- acted like he was shocked then stated cheney speaks to cia daily

please

please

play that clip (Approx 3wks to one month ago)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 AM on 07/13/2009

am looking for the video clip of Joe Scarborough literally jumping on Dylan Ratigan (saw it in one of the Huff Post articles). Does anybody know where I can find it? Thanks for responding

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 AM on 07/13/2009
- mrsbee I'm a Fan of mrsbee 13 fans permalink

The entire crew at Morning Joe should be over at Fox...this show should be replaced by a show with intelligent people as guests and a person with a brain as host ...such as Lawrence O'Donnell.­.. he would be wonderful.­...we should all write to MSNBC and demand it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 PM on 07/12/2009
- Pablo175 I'm a Fan of Pablo175 16 fans permalink

ratings will go to zero.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 PM on 07/13/2009
- Pleneras I'm a Fan of Pleneras 55 fans permalink
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Great statements. I knew she was telling the truth. The CIA's tactic of speaking to one person alone is a future set up for denying anything they want.

"But secondly, there's this whole issue of "TV hosts... pretend[ing] to their audiences like they know what they're talking about."

As I shake my head in wonderment I imagine how many people around the country are doing the same. Do people watch these self proclaimed "know it all's" to know the facts or to make their own conclusions? The problem with Ent News is that it's not news at all and is nothing more than DISCUSSION OPINION TV hosted by some very inadequate people in a very bad way. As soon as people realize this they will stop assuming they're watching THE NEWS and continue to search for the facts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 07/12/2009
- lmab I'm a Fan of lmab 8 fans permalink
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Mourning Joe and Mika.....E­dgar Bergan and Charlie McCarthy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 07/12/2009
- Okieborn I'm a Fan of Okieborn 63 fans permalink

Yes Yes and Yes !!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 AM on 07/16/2009
- Noland I'm a Fan of Noland 12 fans permalink
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Jason...I love you man. Tellin' it like it is. Well done.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 AM on 07/12/2009
- Cat401 I'm a Fan of Cat401 3 fans permalink

What your need to do is write MSNBC about Morning Joke.

The show is horrible..­.I even notice very few black people hasn't been on his show lately. He's rude to his guess, he thinks he knows every thing and he twist words to make this point sounds good. I'm sick of hearing about his book, Regean and when he was in Congress.

Oh by the way, Joe history in Congress isn't good. I don't think he could run for president. His pass will hunt him and he knows it too. Female Intern?????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 07/12/2009
- Noland I'm a Fan of Noland 12 fans permalink
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What the hell are you talking about? What does having black people on the show have to do with anything? He's a Conservative, duh. (Speaking of irrelevancy; how about some Eng101)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 AM on 07/12/2009
- Cat401 I'm a Fan of Cat401 3 fans permalink

It has a lot to do with it. Jon Stewart quote, "White and Bitter like their coffee". Their isn't any diversity on this show. That's what the hell I'm talking about. As far as Eng101...w­hat does that have to do with anything..­.End

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 07/12/2009
- parose10 I'm a Fan of parose10 2 fans permalink

Let's be picky for a moment. Scarborough said that Panetta said it's not the CIA's PRACTICE to lie. Did he really say this? For certain, he said it's not the CIA's POLICY to lie. Well, just because you have a policy, that doesn't mean you always practice it. So Panetta was technically acurate if the policy was not to lie, no matter what the practice was in this poarticular instance. My problem is Scarborough's slight of hand, assumimg I'm correct that he is mis-quoting Panetta. Picky, picky me. But I watch Scarborough a lot and I know he has a history of playing these games.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 AM on 07/12/2009
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parose: Right on! People are 'misled' like this all the time.... it's usually deliberate, since the 'speaker' knows enough to make subtle changes that will not be noticed for the most part.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 07/12/2009

i think the exploitaion of the american people's intellect is shameful

notice how they are all anti-intellect and anti- ivy league schools

this is the new america

they like third world intelligence

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 AM on 07/13/2009
- RJII I'm a Fan of RJII 77 fans permalink
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this is one reason why I don't watch Morning joe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 AM on 07/12/2009
- water57 I'm a Fan of water57 24 fans permalink

Palin and Scarborough 2012, that's ticket

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 PM on 07/11/2009
- ApprxAm I'm a Fan of ApprxAm 8 fans permalink
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STOOOOOOOO­OOP....tha­t'll be too easy!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 AM on 07/12/2009
- alvin12 I'm a Fan of alvin12 6 fans permalink

please, make my day

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 AM on 07/12/2009
- frost12 I'm a Fan of frost12 9 fans permalink

and chris matthews

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 07/12/2009
- water57 I'm a Fan of water57 24 fans permalink

Joe tries to come across as center right of the republican party. He wants to be view as the new face of the party. However, anyone who press Joe on issues will find out, he still has the same republican temperament. Also, Joe wants to be view as a possible candidate for 2012, but Joe does not have the temperament for a long campaign. His best bet is to run as Palin's V.P., which will equal Obama second term.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 07/11/2009

he voted for bush twice

any more?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 AM on 07/13/2009
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