Kids recant abuse claims after dad jailed 20 years

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VANCOUVER, Wash. — Former Vancouver police officer Clyde Ray Spencer spent nearly 20 years in prison after he was convicted of sexually molesting his son and daughter. Now, the children say it never happened.

Matthew Spencer and Kathryn Tetz, who live in Sacramento, Calif., each took the stand Friday in Clark County Superior Court to clear their father's name, The Columbian newspaper reported.

Matthew, now 33, was 9 years old at the time. He told a judge he made the allegation after months of insistent questioning by now-retired Clark County sheriff's detective Sharon Krause just so she would leave him alone.

Tetz, 30, said she doesn't remember what she told Krause back in 1985, but she remembers Krause buying her ice cream. She said that when she finally read the police reports she was "absolutely sure" the abuse never happened.

"I would have remembered something that graphic, that violent," Tetz said.

Spencer's sentence was commuted by then-Gov. Gary Locke in 2004 after questions arose about his conviction. Among other problems, prosecutors withheld medical exams that showed no evidence of abuse, even though Krause claimed the abuse was repeated and violent.

Despite the commutation, Spencer remains a convicted sex offender. He is hoping to have the convictions overturned.

Krause declined an interview request from The Columbian in 2005 and could not be reached Friday, the newspaper reported.

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Both children said that while growing up in California they were told by their mother, who divorced Spencer before he was charged, that they were blocking out the memory of the abuse.

They said they realized as adults the abuse never happened, and they came forward because it was the right thing to do.

Prosecutors aren't yet conceding that Spencer was wrongly convicted. Senior deputy prosecutor Kim Farr grilled the children about why they are so certain they weren't abused, and chief criminal deputy prosecutor Dennis Hunter said that if the convictions are tossed, his office might appeal to the state Supreme Court.

Matthew Spencer said his father had ruined the relationship with his mother and he had faults, "but none of them were molesting children."

Friday's hearing paved the way for the state Court of Appeals to allow Spencer to withdraw the no-contest pleas he entered in 1985 and have his convictions vacated. Both children had previously filed statements with the appeals court, but the judges required the hearing to ensure their new testimony held up under cross-examination.

Spencer, 61, hugged his son and daughter afterward while a dozen supporters cheered.

"For so many years, nothing went right," he said. "When things keep going right, I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop."

The hardest thing about his ordeal was missing his children, he said.

"They were my life, and they were taken away from me," he said. "I could serve in prison. ..."

His voice trailed off, and his son came up for one more hug.

VANCOUVER, Wash. — Former Vancouver police officer Clyde Ray Spencer spent nearly 20 years in prison after he was convicted of sexually molesting his son and daughter. Now, the children say it n...
VANCOUVER, Wash. — Former Vancouver police officer Clyde Ray Spencer spent nearly 20 years in prison after he was convicted of sexually molesting his son and daughter. Now, the children say it n...
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Seems that the prosecutors in Clark County, Washington have nothing better to do than spend state tax dollars. Not only did they stand by and allow an innocent man to spend 20 years of his life behind bars but now after a governor commuted the sentence and the appellate court is going to vacate the conviction, they are threatening to take it on to the State Supreme Court! Enough is enough. This will not only cost thousands and thousands of tax payer dollars and for what? Mr. Spencer has served the time and has a governors commutation. You cannot send the man back to prison. Where is the justice in this county. Apparently the corruption did not end in 1985. As a tax payer I am all for a recall on these elected officials. They were incompetent then and they are incompetent now. Step up people and be heard. These tax dollars could better be spent on our schools than trying to cover the butts of the those that belong to the "Good Old Boys Club".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 07/15/2009
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Who were the children living with in Sacramento? Who did the father think was molesting his children? The father says he started the investigation feeling his daughter was being sexually assaulted in Sacramento. Who did he think was molesting his daughter?

Then the investigation turned on to him.

The son said the father had turned the children against the mother, is this the children’s natural mother, his first wife?

So, it is the second wife who had the affair, not the first wife who was the natural mother of the children.

Those gold digging second wives!!!!!!!!!!! Bet she made life a living he** for the first wife!!!!!!!!

Very different from here where the DAD said there was an assault while at his home, never told the mom, and then covered the matter up, with the help of course with county people and a few good church going people.

The man needs to make it more clear it was not the natural mother of the children, but the STEP MOTHER.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 07/14/2009
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I tried to post that earlier today and they did not approve it. But the whole story is at the Columbian under the video, there are four links with the story.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 07/14/2009
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Not everyone lies.

People do things for money.

They also do things to cover up,especially in groups where it is typical to cover up assaults. They will cover up assaults and all kinds of things.
People do many things to hide the things they are actually involved in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 PM on 07/14/2009
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here's a partial witness list: goes into court today,

Witness List (Revised) page 1

Steve Garagiola David Morse
WDIV Prosecutor Livingston County
West Lafayette Boulevard Law Center
Detroit, MI 210 S. Highlander Way
Howell, MI 48843
Judge Susan Gaddis
Judicial Center Sheriff Bob Bezotte
204 S Highlander Way Livingston County Sheriffs dep.
Howell Michigan 48843 Livingston County Jail Building
150 S. Highlander Way
G. Scott Romney Howell, MI 48843
Honigman Miller Schwartz & Cohn LLP
2290 First National Building Pamela Maas
660 Woodward Avenue Prosecutor Livingston County
Detroit MI 48226 Law Center
(313) 465-7522 Office 210 S. Highlander Way
Howell, MI 48843
Steven Jentzen
106 S Washington St Susan Hamilton and Staff
Ypsilanti, MI 48197 211 East Grand River
734-482-5466 Howell, Michigan 48843
517-573-5082
Karl V. Fink
Pear Sperling Eggan & Daniels, P.C. Neal Nielsen
24 Frank Lloyd Wright Drive, Lobby D 2000 Grand River Annex
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105 Suite 200
Office 734-665-4441 Brighton, Michigan 48114

Gary McCririe Livingston County Republican Party Genoa Twp. Superintendent Mike Murphy
2911 Dorr Rd. Lana Thesis and Vicki Fyke
Brighton, Michigan 48116 Besty Hundley
Rick Pine
The Former Mrs. Gary McCririe 455 East Grand River Ave.
(When she is located) Brighton, Michigan 48116

William McCririe Janice Skousen
Livingston County Prosecutors Office 30979 Bramley Circle
Law Center New Hudson, Michigan 48178
210 S. Highlander Way
Howell, Michigan 48843

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 AM on 07/14/2009
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Witnesses to what?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 07/14/2009
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I think these guys need to tell what has been going on for the past few years.
They will not be friendly witness, that is for sure----
They like to cook up charges on people, and have false stories run, have peoples lives ruined and their kids, terrorize them ---

Subpoena's are going out tonight and tomorrow for that crew --- it interesting who will refuse to show up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 07/14/2009
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You see I actually understand the fellow getting set up, about crooked cops,and courts.

I understand it very well. I don't hate all men either, even though a few were the ones who set up, that list has a few women who didn't mind going along.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 07/14/2009
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The kid is told not to talk BY the GAL, Mediator,and Arbitrator --- yes, one attorney is all of the listed.

"by" should have been used instead of "my".

by the way, is it legal for a court to appoint the same person as the GAL, Mediator, and Arbitrator?-----

only in this very republican county.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 07/14/2009
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I've read a lot of different theories being posted, i.e. rogue detective, overzealous prosecutor but the X factor in all of this is the mother. Hello??? They were going through a divorce. False claims of sexual abuse, beginning in the 70's and peaking in the 80's, were commonplace. Experts believe this phenomenon was the result of changes to custody laws that promoted the "best interest" of children as opposed to the "tender years doctrine". Under the latter, mothers were disproportionately awarded sole full custody of the children. However, under "best interest" more fathers began seeking joint custody following divorce. To unduly influence the courts in their favor, a large percentage of women began to manipulate and coach their children into bringing false accusations of sexual abuse against their fathers.

The late Richard Gardner, a clinical psychologist in NYC, defined this phenomenon as "Parental Alienation Syndrome". Unfortunately, this condition has not been adopted by the DSM-IV.

I know all of this because my ex accused me of abusing our daughter when we divorced in 2003. The damage to father and daughter is irreparable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 AM on 07/14/2009
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They were divorce, the article reads. Richard Gardner also stated in court in a case the UofM had against him. Gardner stated he believed EVERYONE had pedophilia tendencys.

Richard Gardner killed himself by knifing himself to death in his home, was known to be a depressive and other emotional issues. Gardner slashed himself to death.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 AM on 07/14/2009
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No they were not divorced, he was married to his second wife Shirley who was sleeping with Sgt. Davidson, while Ray was sitting in the county jail awaiting trial. Shirley and Sgt. Davidson lived together the first five years Ray was in Prison.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 PM on 07/14/2009
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"I know all of this because my ex accused me of abusing our daughter when we divorced in 2003. The damage to father and daughter is irreparable."

Some fathers do this to their child and turn them against their mothers. Some mothers will turn their children against their fathers.

Some religious cult type religions, will assist in turning the child against their mother, when the religious cult like religion knowingly covers up child sexual abuse and the males in the organization typically go long with the cover up.

Some men hate women so much, they cannot see, it is a 'personality type' which attacks and abuses their spouse.

Decent men do not go for the throat of the their families, destroying everything for money, assets and not to have to pay child support. Until a few men understand this is an issue of an abusive spouse, whether male or female--- the ones which call all women names, blame everything on women, are men with issues, and bias.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 07/14/2009
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Don't drink Koolaid, or beer

Now I understand your posts by reading your Bio

Over cats bio reads
"Raised by poodles in the wilds of Sweden, Overcat walks the earth like Cain in "Kung Fu" searching out truth, justice, and the perfect taco. Overcat's secondary mission is to create a worldwide beer shortage, one glass at a time."

says it all----

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 PM on 07/13/2009
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Says what? That I'm from Sweden? That I like tacos? That I watched Kung Fu when I was a kid? That I enjoy beer?

Oh Goddess forbid that some person who's from Sweden, watched TV as a kid and likes tacos and beer should ever have any point they make considered. Perish the thought.

And you've got a problem with poodles? Off to the re-education camp with you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 PM on 07/13/2009
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The beer got to you, huh?

:-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 AM on 07/14/2009
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Not Goddess, or did you mean Goodness?

mine isn't Goddess it is:

ancestral wisdom of the Pueblo Indians of the American Southwest--

Go back to school and learn the difference between Goddess and Native American.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 AM on 07/14/2009
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...and it's Overcat, not "over cat", and the possessive form uses an apostrophe before the s, hence "Over cats bio reads" should be "Overcat's bio reads". And I didn't really want to pile on, but you probably should've followed that with a colon, you genius, you. Deep thinker. Deeeep.

Seriously, go back to school.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 AM on 07/14/2009
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I understand completely someone can be railroaded. I know courts can play a lot of psychological games which are abusive and will emotionally brake someone down. This a case of a crooked police department, you keep missing the SUPERVISOR who was having the affair.

Many of the posts were attempting to blame everything on women. I know feel well there are some women who are no darn good, as there are men who are no darn good.

If the police were not crooked it would not have happened, as it would not have happened to others, EVEN to some WOMEN.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 07/13/2009
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Our courts are complex.

Look here is what happens the courts make lots of money, court psychologist, FOC, Judges it all come from federal funds and from collecting from the parents.

Again, I am not saying the man may not have been set up, but it was a crooked police department to begin with er........... SUPERVISOR....

have some understanding women are set up also. Kids can be hurt and cops and judges cover .

http://www.batteredmotherscustodyconference.org/

http://www.batteredmotherscustodyconference.org/Media_Breaking_The_Silence_Childrens_Stories.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 07/13/2009
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"THE SUPERVISOR" His name is Detective Sgt. Michael Davidson and the affair was going on while Mr. Spencer was sitting in the county jail awaiting trial. And for the following five years he was living with Shirley Spencer, Ray Spencer's then wife, now ex wife.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 PM on 07/13/2009
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WoW!!! His name was Michael Davidson --- sounds like a man's name to me!!!

but then again, maybe some posters are reading it as Michelle.

:-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 07/14/2009
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Well no, assigning responsibility for malevolence on people, in this case two of whom are women - the mother and the prosecutor Krause - isn't "blaming everything on women" in the generic, broadbrush sense of the term that you misapply. 2 bad people, who are female, were instrumental in sending the guy to prison. That's several magnitudes of difference away from your "blame everything on women" open ended, universal condemnation of females that you keep saying is going on. No women I know were involved in this situation, and I know a few or a couple of dozen or maybe a couple of thousand, and I've not tried to put responsibility for this on them, regardless of your assertions. Putting it on cops just sidesteps the factual reality that the mother instigated the charges, perpetuated the charges, manipulated the kids, the cops, the courts and in the end, her ex. And no evidence has come up that some malevolent male hand was guiding her through the process. She chose her actions. She lied about abuse by coercing her kids to lie about abuse. And she wasn't male when she did it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 PM on 07/13/2009
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Part 2

* Spencer maintained his innocence both under hypnosis and sodium Amytal ("truth serum") facts that were never mentioned in court. "I have never observed an individual who can withhold information under the conditions of Amytal and hypnosis," wrote Dr. Lawrence Halpern in a 1986 letter filed with Spencer's first appeal.

* Spencer was taking heavy doses of antidepressants when he entered his no-contest plea. The drugs and depression made it impossible for Spencer to intelligently participate in his own defense, said Halpern, a University of Washington neuropharmacologist who analyzed Spencer's medical records a year after he was sentenced.

* One alleged victim, a 9-year-old boy, denied Spencer abused him for eight months and changed his story only after a Clark County sheriff's detective threatened him with a lie detector test. Once the detective elicited allegations from the boy that he had suffered frequent, violent abuse, the boy was not examined by a doctor.

* Spencer was handed two life terms plus 14 years with no pre-sentence investigation.

* Results from a recent comprehensive psychological exam and a recent polygraph test support Spencer's claims he never sexually abused anyone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 07/13/2009
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Did you know? Part 1

* In eight years in office, Gov. Gary Locke either commuted sentences or issued pardons for 68 people.

* The Washington State Clemency and Pardons Board unanimously recommended to Locke that Ray Spencer's sentence be commuted. The board consisted of a retired King County judge, a retired King County police officer, a Yakima County police chief, a federal public defender and a Seattle attorney.

* Spencer was the only person convicted of a sex offense to be released by Locke.

Irregularities in Ray Spencer Case

Gov. Gary Locke's commutation order and court records refer to several flaws in the case against Ray Spencer, including:

* Spencer's estranged wife had an affair with a supervising detective.

* Detectives withheld medical evidence supporting Spencer's contention that he was innocent.

* A King County deputy prosecutor known for her expertise in child sex abuse recommended dropping the case after the first victim came forward, citing significant problems with the evidence, including "questions about fact vs. fantasy."

* Spencer's court-appointed defense attorney, James Rulli, now a Clark County Superior Court judge, did not attempt to interview the alleged victims until a few weeks before trial even though the case had been initiated eight months earlier. He also didn't interview Spencer's wife, arrange for any defense witnesses, challenge any of the prosecution's evidence or request a hearing to determine the credibility of the child witnesses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 07/13/2009
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this was a corrupt police department, they were involved in each others personal lives, the kids no doubt were getting caught in a pre divorce game one which the father also was involved in. Look to the police supervisor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 07/13/2009

Was this a case of parental alienation? I would love to know. The article leaves much to the imagination. I ll bet there are many in prison on such kind of false allegations. I was almost prosecuted myself and lost custody of my daughter because of her mothers lies.

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the father could have also been involved in parental alienation, by the statement made by the son in the article. Hubbies lie also, especially ones which have been groomed and well informed by their peers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 07/13/2009
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Oh really now, what's the deal? Here is a clear cut case of false accusations induced by a dishonest and vindictive mother, aided and abetted by a "damn the facts" crusading prosecutor, and you and a few others on this board seem absolutely hellbent on talking around the facts with "Hubbies lie also, especially ones which have been groomed and well informed by their peers." and generalities about the pervasiveness of molestation, police corruption, etc. Whether "Hubbies lie also, especially ones which have been groomed and well informed by their peers." is absolutely irrelevant to this situation. Really now, just come out with it, it just slays you and people like you that some male was railroaded because a couple of women used children to manipulate and ruin his life, and they've been exposed. Dance around the facts all you like, but you just can't obscure reality with your braindead mantras and platitudes.

Pathetic. Keep drinking your Koolaid, most decent, intelligent humans will let you have all of it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 PM on 07/13/2009

How many more innocent people are in jail because of ret. detective Krause and those prosecutors? I guess they're out of luck.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 AM on 07/13/2009
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Kids are extremely suggestible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 AM on 07/13/2009
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The Officer was put through a living Hell...Now they decide they lied?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 PM on 07/12/2009
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