Michael Hayden: Congress Was Informed About Surveillance Program

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PAMELA HESS | 07/11/09 09:28 PM | AP

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WASHINGTON — Former CIA Director Gen. Michael Hayden angrily struck back Saturday at assertions the Bush administration's post-9/11 surveillance program was more far-reaching than imagined and was largely concealed from congressional overseers.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Hayden maintained that top members of Congress were kept well-informed all along the way, notwithstanding protests from some that they were kept in the dark.

"One of the points I had in every one of the briefings was to make sure they understood the scope of our activity 'They've got to know this is bigger than a bread box,' I said," said Hayden, who also previously headed the National Security Agency.

"At the political level this had support," said the one-time CIA chief, jumping foursquare into an escalating controversy that has caused deep political divisions and lingering debate on the counterterrorism policies of an administration now out of power.

Hayden was reacting to a report issued Friday by a team of U.S. inspectors general which called the surveillance program in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks "unprecedented." The report also questioned the program's legal rationale and the excessive secrecy that enshrouded it.

Hayden, who in 2001 designed and carried out the secret program, told The AP he is distressed by suggestions that Congress was not fully informed. He said that he personally briefed top lawmakers on the entire surveillance operation and said he felt that they supported it.

The details of the wider surveillance program described by the federal investigative report remain classified. The program included the wiretapping of American phone and computer lines and was intended to detect communications from the al-Qaida terrorist network. That was revealed by the New York Times in 2005 and later confirmed by then-President George W. Bush.

Several Democratic members of the House and Senate expressed surprise and concern Friday about the still-secret surveillance program.

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Hayden asserted that just weeks after Bush approved the activity, senior Republicans and Democrats on the intelligence committees in the House and Senate started getting briefed regularly on its details. He said these sessions happened about four times a year. Hayden also said the number of lawmakers informed was intentionally kept small because the program was highly classified.

On occasion, he said, the briefing audience was expanded to include top members of the House and Senate leadership as well.

Hayden also said that the members of Congress who were briefed were told the average daily level of surveillance activity and the cumulative activity since the program started. And he said the meetings nearly always occurred at the White House, with Vice President Dick Cheney in attendance.

The Bush surveillance program has been contentious since it was first revealed, raising concerns about the extent of secret activities undertaken since the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington and the potential violation of civil liberties. Indeed, the report released Friday said that most of the information gathered under the wider program ultimately did not have any connection to terrorism.

It was so secret that few members of Bush's inner circle were "read in" on program. Even John Ashcroft, who was attorney general at the time, got an accurate description of one surveillance activity only two years after he first certified it as legal. And his initial request to brief his chief of staff and deputy on the program were refused by the White House.

Just what those activities involved remains classified, but the report released Friday pointedly said that any continued use of the information gathered in the secret programs must be "carefully monitored."

Bush authorized the warrantless wiretapping program under the authority of a secret court in 2006, and Congress approved most of the intercepts in a 2008 electronic surveillance law. The fate of the remaining and still-classified aspects of the wider surveillance program is not clear from the report.

In the interview Saturday, Hayden called the program extremely valuable and said that it served as an early warning system to help prevent further al-Qaida attacks.

Some members of Congress are calling for a full independent inquiry and others are urging further congressional investigations.

Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif., told The AP Friday that she was shocked by the report. She said she asked former White House counsel Alberto Gonzales _ after the wiretapping was revealed in 2005 _ whether the government was conducting any other undisclosed intelligence activities. She said he told her there were no additional operations.

Robert Bork Jr., Gonzales' spokesman, said Friday: "It has clearly been determined that he did not intend to mislead anyone."

In a separate but related move, House Democrats are pressing for legislation that would expand congressional access to secret intelligence briefings. The Obama administration has threatened to veto it over concerns about protecting secrecy.

WASHINGTON — Former CIA Director Gen. Michael Hayden angrily struck back Saturday at assertions the Bush administration's post-9/11 surveillance program was more far-reaching than imagined and w...
WASHINGTON — Former CIA Director Gen. Michael Hayden angrily struck back Saturday at assertions the Bush administration's post-9/11 surveillance program was more far-reaching than imagined and w...
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Pelosi just wasn't listening, yo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 07/12/2009
- oakley9 I'm a Fan of oakley9 20 fans permalink

Just wondering where DC is these days. All of a sudden he is MIA!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 07/12/2009
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He's hunting with Leon Panetta.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 07/12/2009
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I don't believe a word that comes out of Col. Klink's mouth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 07/12/2009
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Hoooogannn!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 07/12/2009
- Querent I'm a Fan of Querent 69 fans permalink
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The record on all this is pretty clear. Hayden is just another Republican Professional Liar. I hope that when the prosecutions start, his name will be on the list.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:21 PM on 07/12/2009
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Didn't Obama run a campaign on transparency?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 07/12/2009
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President Obama and his COS Emanuel actually have no Constitutional role in terms of investigation and prosecution. The DoJ and Congress are the focal points who are to insure that federal crimes and questionable administration practices are investigated, prosecuted and/or publicly aired. President Obama, from a political standpoint, wants to look forward from the Bush era in order to advance his domestic agenda on behalf of the nation. But some things just have to be legally investigated and resolved in a free and open society. In these cases, transparency lies with others outside the WH.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 07/12/2009
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I don't see how Obama has anything to do with this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 07/12/2009
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I think some are confusing programs and investigations:
a) The IGs' report reveals illegal wiretaps, involving US citizens' mails, phones, and other communications, failed to produce any intelligence. The report declares that the program played a limited role in the FBI's counterterrorism efforts. The CIA concludes that it is difficult to attribute the success of a particular counterterrorism case exclusively to the PSP. Congress is in a uproar because they were not fully informed of all that took place relative to this illegal covert surveillance program. However, Congress also passed that BS FISA 'modernization' law last July, which let Bush-Cheney and the telecoms off the hook.

b) AG Holder is contemplating assigning an independent counsel to look into the administration's widespread torture program after he read reports about the treatment of prisoners at the CIA's "black sites."

c) Rep Schakowski is calling for an investigation into a covert CIA surveillance program that was never briefed to Congress at the guidance reportedly of Dick Cheney. She says the investigation may lead to charges filed with the DOJ. This program did not involve interrogations of detainees or surveillance of U.S.-based communications, according to two former CIA. However, some are saying the program was never implemented, despite Panetta "killing" it.

d) There is a report associated with a Cheney JSOC "Executive Assassination Ring," reported by Seymour Hersh.

e) Then there is Rep Conyers' ongoing investigation into the US Attorney firings. Rove has already reportedly testified under oath.

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Thank you for summing up some of the most important parts. Fanned.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:58 PM on 07/12/2009
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There was a bit more, but had to edit due to word count

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 PM on 07/12/2009
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"One of the points I had in every one of the briefings was to make sure they understood the scope of our activity 'They've got to know this is bigger than a bread box,' I said," said Hayden.

That's what he calls well-informed?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 07/12/2009
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winks and nods are supposed to give them everything they need to know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 07/12/2009
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This is why we in Washington do not expect the truth from Ari Force Generals. Hayden, like cheney, is terrified of criminal prosecution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 07/12/2009
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Hayden must be recalled to active duty and then court martialed for his treason to
the US Constitution, and everything good that America stands for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 PM on 07/12/2009
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Fear. That's a trait I like in my military commanders.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 07/12/2009
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Hey - didn't he play the little tranya-drinking alien on STOS?
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 07/12/2009
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LOL - no, that was Ckint Howard.

But he WAS Charlie Brown's stand-in.

...no, that was also Clint Howard

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 07/12/2009
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want to know_ just e mail me directly_ truth to power abusers all men who used a state stamp to lie_ via e mails

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 PM on 07/12/2009
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 07/12/2009
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Doesn't scan. Better luck next time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 PM on 07/12/2009
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"Most Published" doesn't count if it simply means you post your output all over the web. And I think Shakespeare has you beat by a mile, in more ways than one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 PM on 07/12/2009

TO LIE WITH THE UNMITIGATED GALL OF THESE PEOPLE, IS UNCONSCIONABLY STUPID.
WHAT PLANET OR UNIVERSE ARE THESE PEOPLE FROM, AND DON'T YOU WISH THEY WOULD RETURN TO IT, WHEREVER IT IS?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 07/12/2009

Another story (the IG report) says that this story isn't true and that Cheney ordered that Congress not be briefed and programs kept secret.

Another story (the IG report) said that this isn't true: "In the interview Saturday, Hayden called the program extremely valuable and said that it served as an early warning system to help prevent further al-Qaida attacks."

Another story (the IG report) said that this isn't true: "Robert Bork Jr., Gonzales' spokesman, said Friday: "It has clearly been determined that he did not intend to mislead anyone."

Either Hayden is a liar or everyone else, including the IG are liars. I vote for Hayden.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 07/12/2009
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As long as the documents remain sealed, they have deniability. I guess what we need is to see ALL the documents.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 07/12/2009

"We never briefed the vice president, the president or the Cabinet," said a former senior intelligence official, speaking on the condition of anonymity because the program remains highly secret. He said the program remained in the planning stages and never crossed the agency's threshold for reporting to the administration and congressional overseers.

Congress and the CIA have jousted for decades over the interpretation of the 1947 law creating the agency, which included a provision mandating that the committees be kept "fully and currently informed" of intelligence issues. Even for covert actions, lawmakers on the committees generally must be notified.

But the law also says such briefings should be done "to the extent consistent with due regard for the protection from unauthorized disclosure of classified information relating to sensitive intelligence sources and methods or other exceptionally sensitive matters."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 07/12/2009

So how did Cheney order the CIA to hide a program he didn't know about?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 07/12/2009
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" I am NOT a shill for Cheney! I'M NOT, I'M NOT, I'M NOT!!! And if I have to keep lying to Congress to prove it, I will!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 07/12/2009
- poobah I'm a Fan of poobah 18 fans permalink

A la Oliver North.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 07/12/2009
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