Michael Hayden: Congress Was Informed About Surveillance Program

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PAMELA HESS | July 11, 2009 09:28 PM EST | AP

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FILE -- In this Feb. 5, 2008, file photo, then CIA Director, Lt. Gen. Michael Hayden, testifies about world threats before a Senate Intelligence Committee on Capitol Hill in Washington. (AP Photo/Kevin Wolf, File)

WASHINGTON — Former CIA Director Gen. Michael Hayden angrily struck back Saturday at assertions the Bush administration's post-9/11 surveillance program was more far-reaching than imagined and was largely concealed from congressional overseers.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Hayden maintained that top members of Congress were kept well-informed all along the way, notwithstanding protests from some that they were kept in the dark.

"One of the points I had in every one of the briefings was to make sure they understood the scope of our activity 'They've got to know this is bigger than a bread box,' I said," said Hayden, who also previously headed the National Security Agency.

"At the political level this had support," said the one-time CIA chief, jumping foursquare into an escalating controversy that has caused deep political divisions and lingering debate on the counterterrorism policies of an administration now out of power.

Hayden was reacting to a report issued Friday by a team of U.S. inspectors general which called the surveillance program in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks "unprecedented." The report also questioned the program's legal rationale and the excessive secrecy that enshrouded it.

Hayden, who in 2001 designed and carried out the secret program, told The AP he is distressed by suggestions that Congress was not fully informed. He said that he personally briefed top lawmakers on the entire surveillance operation and said he felt that they supported it.

The details of the wider surveillance program described by the federal investigative report remain classified. The program included the wiretapping of American phone and computer lines and was intended to detect communications from the al-Qaida terrorist network. That was revealed by the New York Times in 2005 and later confirmed by then-President George W. Bush.

Several Democratic members of the House and Senate expressed surprise and concern Friday about the still-secret surveillance program.

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Hayden asserted that just weeks after Bush approved the activity, senior Republicans and Democrats on the intelligence committees in the House and Senate started getting briefed regularly on its details. He said these sessions happened about four times a year. Hayden also said the number of lawmakers informed was intentionally kept small because the program was highly classified.

On occasion, he said, the briefing audience was expanded to include top members of the House and Senate leadership as well.

Hayden also said that the members of Congress who were briefed were told the average daily level of surveillance activity and the cumulative activity since the program started. And he said the meetings nearly always occurred at the White House, with Vice President Dick Cheney in attendance.

The Bush surveillance program has been contentious since it was first revealed, raising concerns about the extent of secret activities undertaken since the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington and the potential violation of civil liberties. Indeed, the report released Friday said that most of the information gathered under the wider program ultimately did not have any connection to terrorism.

It was so secret that few members of Bush's inner circle were "read in" on program. Even John Ashcroft, who was attorney general at the time, got an accurate description of one surveillance activity only two years after he first certified it as legal. And his initial request to brief his chief of staff and deputy on the program were refused by the White House.

Just what those activities involved remains classified, but the report released Friday pointedly said that any continued use of the information gathered in the secret programs must be "carefully monitored."

Bush authorized the warrantless wiretapping program under the authority of a secret court in 2006, and Congress approved most of the intercepts in a 2008 electronic surveillance law. The fate of the remaining and still-classified aspects of the wider surveillance program is not clear from the report.

In the interview Saturday, Hayden called the program extremely valuable and said that it served as an early warning system to help prevent further al-Qaida attacks.

Some members of Congress are calling for a full independent inquiry and others are urging further congressional investigations.

Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif., told The AP Friday that she was shocked by the report. She said she asked former White House counsel Alberto Gonzales _ after the wiretapping was revealed in 2005 _ whether the government was conducting any other undisclosed intelligence activities. She said he told her there were no additional operations.

Robert Bork Jr., Gonzales' spokesman, said Friday: "It has clearly been determined that he did not intend to mislead anyone."

In a separate but related move, House Democrats are pressing for legislation that would expand congressional access to secret intelligence briefings. The Obama administration has threatened to veto it over concerns about protecting secrecy.

WASHINGTON — Former CIA Director Gen. Michael Hayden angrily struck back Saturday at assertions the Bush administration's post-9/11 surveillance program was more far-reaching than imagined and w...
WASHINGTON — Former CIA Director Gen. Michael Hayden angrily struck back Saturday at assertions the Bush administration's post-9/11 surveillance program was more far-reaching than imagined and w...
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i think the untold truth in all the info sharing is that --

we never told anything to anyone we thought would not go along with what we were doing.
all they got was broad generalities

we expanded the circle to include yes men , weaklings , and those committed to "the plan"--if they could be trusted to go along -we dressed the windows a little better for them --just to make them feel a little more important and informed.

no one got "the real goods"----that would mean trouble---

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 AM on 07/12/2009
- barksalot I'm a Fan of barksalot 45 fans permalink

The great conspiracy theory rolls on. Bush and Cheney weren't trying to protect your sorry bu.tts they were listening in to steal aunt Maggies pie recipe. I seriously wonder if we would have the USA if it was left to libs to protect?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 AM on 07/12/2009
- barksalot I'm a Fan of barksalot 45 fans permalink

Thanks for adding to my words with a Picture and proving my point. This is exactly what libs want to do in times of strife.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 AM on 07/12/2009

right ------only republicans can make you safe>>only republicans can protect you----what are you going to do for the next 40 years with the grownups in charge

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 AM on 07/12/2009
- barksalot I'm a Fan of barksalot 45 fans permalink

Don't put words in my mouth. I never said only republicans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 AM on 07/12/2009
- dhinds I'm a Fan of dhinds 26 fans permalink

If Bush and Cheney infringed on my rights - including my right to be informed regarding what my government does with the money I provide, I demand transparency and insist on their being brought to justice.

The existence of the USA was consecreted in the Constitution - the USA's Articles of Incorporation. Progressives Protect the Rights established in that document.

The legality of Covert Activities creates a conflict discussed in the following article published in today's NY Times:

www.nytimes.com/2009/07/12/us/politics/12intel.html

Which raises the question of who the USA's enemies really are - those that break the law, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 AM on 07/12/2009
- DBtv I'm a Fan of DBtv 31 fans permalink
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All willfully ignorant bark, no substance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 AM on 07/12/2009
- riverhouse I'm a Fan of riverhouse 48 fans permalink

This needs to be played out in investigative hearings, not via headlines. There are people out there who need to go to prison over this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 AM on 07/12/2009
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 633 fans permalink
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Hayden can pour his little heart out, under oath.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 AM on 07/12/2009
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Without the headlines this will go away. I understand your concerns, but the time is NOW to call and write people that can do what you say you want to happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 AM on 07/12/2009
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Very interesting headlines this weekend.

The CIA is blaming the House for not pulling the plug on illegal wiretapping and previously blamed Nancy Pelosi for not pulling the plug on torture (even though a highly respected former Senator Bob Graham supports Pelosi's story), and now Holder saying that he is leaning towards prosecuting war crimes - again the CIA's backyard. A perfect storm may be brewing here where support for prosecution may come in defense of Congress AND from the AG who should be doing this stuff in any case, but may have lacked the political will before the 60th Senator was seated in the Blue Aisle.

Call your Reps and Senators, call the AG, call the White House....p­ut some pressure on the people that can make prosecution happen. Bush & Co may STILL see the inside of court room for their crimes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 AM on 07/12/2009
- egaeus I'm a Fan of egaeus 8 fans permalink

Why does anyone take seriously anything that a toxic asset like Michael Hayden would say about anything. It seems all anyone has to do is show up in an expensive suit or military uniform and the media take at face value most of what they say. Hayden has no credibility; nor does Cheney or anyone else involved with the Bush administration. The gov't should finish the job begun in the mid 1970s and shutdown the CIA and NSA and any other sanctioned criminal organization whose sole purpose is to start trouble and violate citizens' civil liberties.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 AM on 07/12/2009
- lizr I'm a Fan of lizr 249 fans permalink
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Yeah, no one would ever believe that CIA would l.i.e. :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 AM on 07/12/2009
- WIpatriot I'm a Fan of WIpatriot 36 fans permalink
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The CIA lies about lying to liars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 AM on 07/12/2009
- rsaillant1 I'm a Fan of rsaillant1 25 fans permalink
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We'll have to pay close attention to this issue and especially to
how the parties parse their words....

Hayden says, "Congress was well informed..­.."

And Congress complains, "they were not fully informed."

Well informed vs Fully informed..­.plenty of room for argument, and ample
room to tuck away some secrets...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 AM on 07/12/2009
- Bude I'm a Fan of Bude 164 fans permalink
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I'm not sure that the former director needs to be talking to the press.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 AM on 07/12/2009

Point taken! The polemic pattern here is obvious. The NeoCons present Gen. Hayden in medal bedecked uniform (although his responsibility was as a civilian official) to the media whose fact "rebuttals" are tepid statements of policy and practice laced with qualifications such as "usual' and "often" to an amorphous groupings of " congressional leaders", acting upon the legal advice of Attorney General Gonzales whose official opinion was that the President (under his "war powers" authority was total and unrestrained. Gonzales's role in the absurd drama was defended by NeoCon Bork with the defense that his client never intended to mislead anyone. Recall that this entire conflict was initiated ed by the GOP lapdogs who demanded an investigation of Speaker Palosi over her statement--now objectively obvious-- that she had been misled.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 AM on 07/12/2009
- barksalot I'm a Fan of barksalot 45 fans permalink

This has nothing to do with Palosi's statement that she was not informed about water boarding. I wish as much effort was put into running this country as there has been to cover up for this womans lie.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 AM on 07/12/2009

What would you expect this politician/general to say?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 AM on 07/12/2009
- sposton I'm a Fan of sposton 188 fans permalink
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Under my leadership we did indeed commit grave crimes against the Constitution and since I swore to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic, I beg for forgiveness of the American people and I respectfully submit myself to the mercy of the courts of these United States of America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 07/12/2009
- dadw5boys I'm a Fan of dadw5boys 281 fans permalink
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It is becoming Blantantly clear that the Religious Right has control over the Air Force and is trying for control of the other forces as well.

As long as these people remain in power in can influence power we are at risk of losing our country to those who want a religious crusuade !!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 AM on 07/12/2009
- barksalot I'm a Fan of barksalot 45 fans permalink

I'm sure theres an Awacs aircraft circling right now trying to pinpoint your house so the f-16's can make a strafing run. LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 AM on 07/12/2009
- fuzzwald I'm a Fan of fuzzwald 8 fans permalink
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Shouldn't you be getting ready for c.h.u.r.c.­h ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 07/12/2009
- lizr I'm a Fan of lizr 249 fans permalink
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Agreed- people think the dan.ger from the Far Rt. is over but they are sadly misinformed!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 AM on 07/12/2009
- jetphixer I'm a Fan of jetphixer 8 fans permalink

I have said it many times on here wen opression comes to the USA its not alquida or some outside group it will arrive in a flag draped cross.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 AM on 07/12/2009
- grf67 I'm a Fan of grf67 36 fans permalink

Like cheney, hayden lives in fear of a criminal prosecution. Both should be in jail.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 AM on 07/12/2009
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Don't forget Pelosi.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 07/12/2009

Oh the slippery path of Totalitarianism. These bastards badly damaged our brand of Democracy, Don't know if Humpty Dumpty can be put back together again. Hey Obama! Where's the transparency?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 AM on 07/12/2009
- Pleneras I'm a Fan of Pleneras 61 fans permalink
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LIAR. Pelosi is going to get you back for that lie.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 AM on 07/12/2009
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Yes, but apparently it isn't the surveillance program that Panetta was referring to when he briefed the intelligence committees. It was something perhaps far more sinister. Let's hope Congress doesn't hide behind Hayden's word parsing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 AM on 07/12/2009
- Coinyer101 I'm a Fan of Coinyer101 663 fans permalink
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I don't believe you ,Hayden. I think yer a ly ing warcriminal just like most of the rest of Cheeeney's thugsters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 AM on 07/12/2009
- Bude I'm a Fan of Bude 164 fans permalink
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Ya man.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 AM on 07/12/2009
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