Michael Hayden: Congress Was Informed About Surveillance Program

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PAMELA HESS | July 11, 2009 09:28 PM EST | AP

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FILE -- In this Feb. 5, 2008, file photo, then CIA Director, Lt. Gen. Michael Hayden, testifies about world threats before a Senate Intelligence Committee on Capitol Hill in Washington. (AP Photo/Kevin Wolf, File)

WASHINGTON — Former CIA Director Gen. Michael Hayden angrily struck back Saturday at assertions the Bush administration's post-9/11 surveillance program was more far-reaching than imagined and was largely concealed from congressional overseers.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Hayden maintained that top members of Congress were kept well-informed all along the way, notwithstanding protests from some that they were kept in the dark.

"One of the points I had in every one of the briefings was to make sure they understood the scope of our activity 'They've got to know this is bigger than a bread box,' I said," said Hayden, who also previously headed the National Security Agency.

"At the political level this had support," said the one-time CIA chief, jumping foursquare into an escalating controversy that has caused deep political divisions and lingering debate on the counterterrorism policies of an administration now out of power.

Hayden was reacting to a report issued Friday by a team of U.S. inspectors general which called the surveillance program in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks "unprecedented." The report also questioned the program's legal rationale and the excessive secrecy that enshrouded it.

Hayden, who in 2001 designed and carried out the secret program, told The AP he is distressed by suggestions that Congress was not fully informed. He said that he personally briefed top lawmakers on the entire surveillance operation and said he felt that they supported it.

The details of the wider surveillance program described by the federal investigative report remain classified. The program included the wiretapping of American phone and computer lines and was intended to detect communications from the al-Qaida terrorist network. That was revealed by the New York Times in 2005 and later confirmed by then-President George W. Bush.

Several Democratic members of the House and Senate expressed surprise and concern Friday about the still-secret surveillance program.

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Hayden asserted that just weeks after Bush approved the activity, senior Republicans and Democrats on the intelligence committees in the House and Senate started getting briefed regularly on its details. He said these sessions happened about four times a year. Hayden also said the number of lawmakers informed was intentionally kept small because the program was highly classified.

On occasion, he said, the briefing audience was expanded to include top members of the House and Senate leadership as well.

Hayden also said that the members of Congress who were briefed were told the average daily level of surveillance activity and the cumulative activity since the program started. And he said the meetings nearly always occurred at the White House, with Vice President Dick Cheney in attendance.

The Bush surveillance program has been contentious since it was first revealed, raising concerns about the extent of secret activities undertaken since the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington and the potential violation of civil liberties. Indeed, the report released Friday said that most of the information gathered under the wider program ultimately did not have any connection to terrorism.

It was so secret that few members of Bush's inner circle were "read in" on program. Even John Ashcroft, who was attorney general at the time, got an accurate description of one surveillance activity only two years after he first certified it as legal. And his initial request to brief his chief of staff and deputy on the program were refused by the White House.

Just what those activities involved remains classified, but the report released Friday pointedly said that any continued use of the information gathered in the secret programs must be "carefully monitored."

Bush authorized the warrantless wiretapping program under the authority of a secret court in 2006, and Congress approved most of the intercepts in a 2008 electronic surveillance law. The fate of the remaining and still-classified aspects of the wider surveillance program is not clear from the report.

In the interview Saturday, Hayden called the program extremely valuable and said that it served as an early warning system to help prevent further al-Qaida attacks.

Some members of Congress are calling for a full independent inquiry and others are urging further congressional investigations.

Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif., told The AP Friday that she was shocked by the report. She said she asked former White House counsel Alberto Gonzales _ after the wiretapping was revealed in 2005 _ whether the government was conducting any other undisclosed intelligence activities. She said he told her there were no additional operations.

Robert Bork Jr., Gonzales' spokesman, said Friday: "It has clearly been determined that he did not intend to mislead anyone."

In a separate but related move, House Democrats are pressing for legislation that would expand congressional access to secret intelligence briefings. The Obama administration has threatened to veto it over concerns about protecting secrecy.

WASHINGTON — Former CIA Director Gen. Michael Hayden angrily struck back Saturday at assertions the Bush administration's post-9/11 surveillance program was more far-reaching than imagined and w...
WASHINGTON — Former CIA Director Gen. Michael Hayden angrily struck back Saturday at assertions the Bush administration's post-9/11 surveillance program was more far-reaching than imagined and w...
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- lungfish I'm a Fan of lungfish 106 fans permalink
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The Intel Oversight Subcommittee has stated emphatically that it was not informed and that Director Panetta has advised them of programs that they were not informed about... Mr. Hayden has a credibility problem and is following the Cheney model... won't work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 AM on 07/12/2009

Doubtless it was mentioned only to the House and Senate majority and minority leaders, people too busy on other matters to ask the necessary questions.

This is why it is so important that the Intelligence Oversight committees as a whole hear these briefings.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 AM on 07/12/2009
- filmex I'm a Fan of filmex 7 fans permalink
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Have you ever visited Nuremberg, Mr. Hayden? Don't worry. You will.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 AM on 07/12/2009
- RTIII I'm a Fan of RTIII 84 fans permalink

Let's hope we have our own new "Nuremberg" - and soon!
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 AM on 07/12/2009
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The Hague.

I really hope so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 AM on 07/12/2009
- markhas I'm a Fan of markhas 3 fans permalink

AND HURRY!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 AM on 07/12/2009
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Like Chenny, General Hayden is taking the offensive. Always the best play when you're on the wrong side of history. Maybe they should share a cell together?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 AM on 07/12/2009
- PSM42 I'm a Fan of PSM42 20 fans permalink
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CREEP - WHO ME?
Hayden - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLvIFRNbqOs
G0llum - http://blog.cleveland.com/nationworld_impact/2009/01/large_Michael-Hayden-CIA-Jan15-09.jpg

Shome mishtake shurely. Ed.

"Don't call me Shirley" - Airplane - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGSRmemHxlo

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 PM on 07/11/2009
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You all are aware that President Obama maintains essentially the same wiretap program today?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 PM on 07/11/2009

Yes, and if he doesn't end it, he should be sent to trial too. There is no excuse for him doing so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 AM on 07/12/2009
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Oh, you'll get a lot of fans here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 07/12/2009
- JiminNC I'm a Fan of JiminNC 270 fans permalink
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b.u.l.l.s.­h.i.t

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 PM on 07/11/2009
- darthmaul I'm a Fan of darthmaul 19 fans permalink

Who do we believe? The professional investigators or the former head of the organization that is being investigated?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 PM on 07/11/2009

The CIA are trained professional liars.

But they are supposed to be our liars. They are not supposed to lie to us, only to foreigners.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 AM on 07/12/2009

Hayden. Now there's a guy who's earned America's respect and trust. Why would we doubt his word?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 PM on 07/11/2009
- mari2JJ I'm a Fan of mari2JJ 37 fans permalink

If he was appointed by and worked for G. W. Bush, his word is a lot suspect. I would much rather trust Mr. Holder to get the facts. In the near and far future, we will find all sorts of illegal behavior that the Bush perps have pawned off on us. It will be sad to see just how illegal their behavior was. But I do hope we will throw some of these guys in the slammer if they are found out to have participated in deceptive and illegal activities. I say, "Sic em, Eric Holder. We hired you to get to the bottom of the Bush swill". You have a chance to atone for your Rich fiasco by holding our country to a high standard. Even so, a President has the right to give anyone a pardon. We might not like it, but alas, it is his right and his responsibility.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 PM on 07/11/2009
- RTIII I'm a Fan of RTIII 84 fans permalink

I think Unstuffed was using sarcasm.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 AM on 07/12/2009
- sviolette I'm a Fan of sviolette 80 fans permalink
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He must be feeling the heat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 PM on 07/11/2009
- amdezurik I'm a Fan of amdezurik 35 fans permalink

about time!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 07/11/2009
- Nancy84 I'm a Fan of Nancy84 12 fans permalink

Funny that the two main charactors in this drama, Cheney and Hayden are the two that are making the most noise with their denials.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 PM on 07/11/2009

They are worried we'll sent them to Spandau Prison.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 AM on 07/12/2009
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"And he said the meetings nearly always occurred at the White House, with Vice President Dick Cheney in attendance­."

I believe every word in that statement. The rest, not so much....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 PM on 07/11/2009
- LeeCalif I'm a Fan of LeeCalif 68 fans permalink

Throw this li ars @ ss in prison and throw away the key.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 07/11/2009
- Mozart123 I'm a Fan of Mozart123 4 fans permalink

Don't take him seriously. He's a double for Kurtwood Smith from "That 70's Show."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 PM on 07/11/2009
- Donns I'm a Fan of Donns 7 fans permalink

Hi, I used to be in charge of telling lies - but now I'm telling the truth. Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy are maybe real.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 PM on 07/11/2009
- Poorsarah I'm a Fan of Poorsarah 48 fans permalink
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Somehow, I do not believe him!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 07/11/2009
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