Talks Resume In Addressing California's $26B Deficit

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JUDY LIN | 07/11/09 11:41 PM | AP

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Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger talks with reporters during a break in budget meeting with Legislative leaders at the Capitol in Sacramento, Calif., Friday, July 10, 2009.(AP Photo/Rich Pedroncelli)

SACRAMENTO, Calif. — Against a backdrop of IOUs and expanding government furloughs, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and legislative leaders expressed optimism Saturday that they were moving toward a compromise that could end California's fiscal calamity.

Negotiations to close the state's $26.3 billion deficit restarted after two weeks of inaction and partisan bickering. Top lawmakers from both parties said a budget-balancing deal was possible in the coming week.

"I would say we're getting very close to a general framework, but there are still outlying questions," said Assembly Minority Leader Sam Blakeslee, a San Luis Obispo Republican, after emerging from a closed-door meeting between lawmakers and Schwarzenegger.

They negotiated about 2 1/2 hours Saturday before ending talks for the day. They were expected to return to the Capitol on Sunday.

Negotiations centered on the extent of budget cuts _ which are expected to range from $14 billion to $15 billion _ and what other steps might be taken to close the deficit.

The shortfall, which is the difference between the amount of tax money coming into the state and its previously approved spending obligations, amounts to more than a quarter of California's general fund, its main account for paying operating expenses.

Schwarzenegger and Republican lawmakers also want reforms to welfare, pension, health care and in-home supportive service programs. They say preventing waste and abuse will save the state money, which in turn can be used to prevent cuts elsewhere in the budget. The governor's office has estimated its reform proposals will save $1.7 billion this fiscal year alone.

Democrats have criticized the reform proposals as peripheral issues that do not have a direct effect on the immediate budget deficit. They also say Schwarzenegger has overstated the savings.

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"There's a general appreciation that many of these reforms will produce savings, but we want to make sure we approach them in a thoughtful manner," Blakeslee said.

Despite the differences, both Democratic leaders appeared upbeat as they left Schwarzenegger's office after a second round of talks that began Friday night.

Assembly Speaker Karen Bass, who walked out of negotiations earlier in the week, said there did not appear to be any insurmountable obstacles to reaching a deal. She described the talks as complicated.

"I think what has happened over the last 48 hours has been the most productive in the last several weeks," the Los Angeles Democrat said. "We are just not finished." Senate leader Darrell Steinberg, a Democrat from Sacramento, also attended the talks.

Besides the welfare and social service reforms, education funding is one of the key negotiating points. Lawmakers are trying to decide whether it can be cut and, if so, by how much. Funding for K-12 schools and community colleges accounts for roughly half of annual state spending.

The possibility of a breakthrough in resolving California's mammoth budget shortfall comes a week after the state began issuing IOUs to thousands of vendors. State workers also have begun taking three days off a month without pay, cutting the salaries of more than 200,000 government employees by 14 percent.

The state's fiscal picture has become progressively worse since Schwarzenegger and lawmakers passed the budget for the current fiscal year last February during an unusual midyear session.

Personal income taxes declined 34 percent during the first five months of the year, a slide that has accelerated as the recession continues to strangle California's economy.

On Friday, the state controller's office reported the state had spent $10.4 billion more than it collected in the fiscal year that ended June 30. It is now without sufficient cash to cover all of its payment obligations.

If the budget isn't balanced by late August, the state will have to defer payments to its pension funds and may issue IOUs instead of paychecks to state employees.

The unprecedented drop in tax revenue is forcing Schwarzenegger and lawmakers to make difficult choices, with deep cuts proposed to education, health and social service programs.

At the same time, Schwarzenegger and Republican lawmakers are standing fast against additional tax increases, limiting lawmakers' options for closing the deficit.

The two-year budget package approved in February increased sales, personal income and vehicle license taxes, and Republicans say the state's economy cannot absorb additional tax hikes.

While the governor and lawmakers try to reach a compromise, some of the state contractors who are being issued IOUs will have to start scrambling to find banks that will cash the warrants. Bank of America Corp. and other major banks said Friday was the last day they would honor the IOUs, which cannot be redeemed until Oct. 2.

SACRAMENTO, Calif. — Against a backdrop of IOUs and expanding government furloughs, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and legislative leaders expressed optimism Saturday that they were moving toward a ...
SACRAMENTO, Calif. — Against a backdrop of IOUs and expanding government furloughs, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and legislative leaders expressed optimism Saturday that they were moving toward a ...
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- Ivar I'm a Fan of Ivar 2 fans permalink

Our gov says "Our wallet is empty, our bank is closed, our credit is dried up." AND WHOSE FAULT IS THAT ARNOLD?? ......YOUR­S!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 07/11/2009
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RINO's act like democrats, and Arnold is a RINO. What California needs is a legislature that is conservative. When the conservatives get the state back in financial order, the Democrats can destroy it again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 07/11/2009
- whoknew--- I'm a Fan of whoknew--- 15 fans permalink

Conservatives mantra was deregulation of financial markets, energy markets, etc. (Remember Enron?) That's what got us in trouble...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 07/11/2009
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As long as Arnold is in Sacramento, NOTHING will be accomplished. Everyone wanted to blame Gray Davis. I am so happy I can say I voted AGAINST the recall and AGAINST Arnold.
Someone below mentioned money to be made on hemp, you're absolutely right.
Too bad that so many people had to vote for Prop 8 also. Look at the money you voted away for California to have made on weddings, parties, businesses. Talk about a stimulous, if you hadn't voted for Yes on 8 money would be flowing like crazy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 07/11/2009
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Ahnold is a joke.

And the joke is old.

Hopefully California learned it's lesson.

You can't just put anybody in office and expect the state not to fall apart.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 07/11/2009
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I KNOW! Of all the Republican Governors that should really resign, this one stays in office. We CAN'T get rid of him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 07/11/2009
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The lesson to be learned is that you cannot tax just the big wage earners to pay for increasing social services, and expect those big wage earners to stick around. You find a feel good social program, you raise taxes to pay for it. A recipe for financial disaster.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:06 PM on 07/11/2009
- jotunloki I'm a Fan of jotunloki 8 fans permalink
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That is NOT what has happened in California. California has propositioned itself into the grave by LIMITING taxes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 PM on 07/11/2009
- whoknew--- I'm a Fan of whoknew--- 15 fans permalink

There is a angle that I have trouble with.

The US government bailed out the banks but the banks are putting a time-line on helping the US government?

Okay....

Maybe Californians should all collectively pull out what little we have left and create a credit union instead of letting these banks who base their decisions on the needs and greed of the investors.

When you invest in a credit union you are the owner, the member.

Also as a non-profit entity credit unions any profits (dividends/lower interest rates) go directly to the credit union members. Any profits a bank has goes to the investors not to the guy who opens a bank account, a loan, etc.

How these banks have gotten us into the financial ditch and also how they are handling themselves in the aftermath can pretty much indicates they are not performing in the consumer and the countries best interests.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 07/11/2009
- researcher I'm a Fan of researcher 110 fans permalink

what happens in calif does not stay in calif

it will be the same in the other states in a few years

ie bankruptcy

ie trillions spent on our wars for profits

one trillion spent in iraq and they hate us

whole new group of potential terrorists

have a happy day america

when the civil war breaks out in iraq then we will take in millions of iraqis

t hen we can raise our own terrorists

oh the price of imperialism

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 PM on 07/11/2009
- kasinca I'm a Fan of kasinca 163 fans permalink
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From what I have read the CA Prop 13 blew $50 Billion Surplus the first ten years after it was passed. To continue down the failed path, blaming everything but the real reason is a form of insanity. It is the same old republican philosophy of we do not want to pay taxes to pay for the services we have and it must be the fault of illegals because I will never admit my responsibility for anything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 PM on 07/11/2009
- Gasparilla I'm a Fan of Gasparilla 30 fans permalink

Then they can repeal Prop 13. The Democrats are in charge of the legislature. They put it on the ballot and the voters repeal it with a simple majority.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 PM on 07/11/2009
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It is the enormous cost of all the services that is the cause of the deficit. Spend money on education (K - 12), elderly, and disabled. Keep the municipal services in place. Get rid of the social programs; they are not needed when you can't afford them. The rest of the people can fend for themselves. It might make it hard for some, but the bottom line is that you can't suck anymore out of the taxpayers. Oh, and as for your comment on republican­s...No one really wants to pay taxes to give to a special interest group. Welfare os one of those special interest groups.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 07/11/2009
- Ivar I'm a Fan of Ivar 2 fans permalink

KASINCA: Prop 13was passed in the 70's. can you explain why or how it now becomes a problem? NO you cant and neither can anyone else withoout an axe to grind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 07/11/2009
- Ivar I'm a Fan of Ivar 2 fans permalink

kasinca: Do you even understand prop 13? From what you say, you do not. Prop 13 has saved many many of the LITTLE guys money. Our (blank blank) governor wil not even sit down and talk unless he can have it his way. Bush & co. cut taxes on the big fish several times. THIS caused the coffers to dry up, NOT prop 13.Studly your history!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 PM on 07/11/2009
- Chbronze I'm a Fan of Chbronze 6 fans permalink

Prop 13 was a taxpayer revolt led by Howard Jarvis in 1977 and passed in 1978. It was brought on by large yearly property tax increases. Prop 13 limits property tax increases for property owners or businesseswho stay in the same location. If property is bought or sold it is taxed at the current rate. This proposition causes California to rely more heavily on sales and income tax, a deadly combination during economic hardship.
Another problem California has is the number of unionized employees. From an employee perspective this is great, however this adds a greater amount of payroll and benefit dollars to the bottom line. Over 1 million state and local employees belong to various unions.
Republicans do not have a problem with taxes, we have a problem with a government which invites those who do not contribute to the state to stay. My point is that if Canada were to offer the opportunity for me to make 10 times my yearly wage, with subsidised housing, healthcare, and free education I would probably be on the first bus to Ottawa.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 PM on 07/11/2009
- Chbronze I'm a Fan of Chbronze 6 fans permalink

Proposition 13 was passed in 1978 with a democratic governor, and a democratic congress. 5 years later a Republican governor was elected, yet the legislature has not changed hands. Maybe someone else can explain who spent the money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 AM on 07/12/2009
- Nicon I'm a Fan of Nicon 40 fans permalink
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Marijuana and Hemp are the answers to California's income problem. Between the savings in law enforcement and corrections, and the Taxes from the USA's top cash crop the USA as a whole would be looking at a combined savings and profit of 70 Billion.

Given the fact that Marijuana is harmless, has never caused a human death, and is incapable of doing so... Why continue this foolish prohibition when ending it can fix most of the problems dragging this wonderful country down?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 07/11/2009
- ike39 I'm a Fan of ike39 2 fans permalink

The California budget circus continues down the path to insolvency. One hopes that some type of agreement can be hammered out so that people can once more count on the offices of the state being open for business all week. Absent any agreement the budget battle will get worse, and the citizens of the State of California will continue to be without a real state government. Both parties share the blame for this mess. Both play to their supporters, and not to the citizens of the state as a whole.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:40 PM on 07/11/2009
- kriakria I'm a Fan of kriakria 7 fans permalink
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Real estate and development mogul, David Murdock, who is owner of Castle & Cook and CEO of Dole Foods, with the companies he controls, by 2005 contributed $352,000 to California governor Schwarzenegger. Corporations like Castle & Cook and Dole Foods are opposing changes to state property tax rules that would require corporate landowners to pay their fair share of property taxes – a change that could provide an estimated $5 billion in additional state revenue per year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:34 PM on 07/11/2009
- kasinca I'm a Fan of kasinca 163 fans permalink
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Overhaul Prop 13. It is that simple.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 07/11/2009
- Gasparilla I'm a Fan of Gasparilla 30 fans permalink

Yes it is, if that is the problem. It's not the Republicans who are holding you back. The voters can repeal it with a simple majority.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 07/11/2009
- Ivar I'm a Fan of Ivar 2 fans permalink

Kasinea: Prop 13 was passed many many years ago and the state got along fine. It crashed when George Bush & co. cut taxes on the big fish several times while he was in office. Open y9our eyes and leave prop 13 alone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 07/11/2009
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My workload has been increased by 20% for the same pay. Now by being asked to take furloughs, which will amount to a 17% pay cut, my labor will be worth 37% less. Is that fair? The rich need to start paying their fair share of taxes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 07/11/2009
- researcher I'm a Fan of researcher 110 fans permalink

the rich run this country they are not about to pay thier fair share

you want capitalism you got it

aint it great

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 07/11/2009
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speak for yourself about wanting capitalism

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 07/11/2009
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America is the richest country in the world because of capitalism. You, just like everyone else who has a little personal motivation and integrity, has the opportunity to become rich in this country. If you get rid of capitalism, you lose that opportunity. I am all for people paying thier fair share. Let's begin by making the 40% of working Americans pay the same percentage of taxes as the rich do, and you will see the deficit decrease.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 07/11/2009
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The government of California said we had calculated our state taxes wrong and kept $423 of what they owed us. We called, they agreed they were in error and now they sent us an IOU for the $423. I wonder how many other people they pulled this trick on?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 07/11/2009
- stevi I'm a Fan of stevi 4 fans permalink

As a resident of California, I expect nothing from any of these self-serving clowns in Sacramento. These particular fools have, by legislating self-interest, destroyed one of the most vigorous state economies. Over the last 8 years or so, hummm, 8 years? hummmm. Well, anyway, what Cheney/Enron didn't screw us out of, Arnie and the gang of self-serving legislators, have. They will not be done until schools and pensions are eviscerated, not to mention our police and fire fighting abilities. Since the electorate here only votes for the most popular action hero available, there will not be a solution to our problems any time soon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 07/11/2009
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