Lawmakers Won't Make Obama's Health Care Deadline

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PHILIP ELLIOTT | July 12, 2009 06:55 PM EST | AP

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WASHINGTON — Legislation to overhaul the nation's health systems is unlikely to make it through the House and Senate before the August target set by President Barack Obama and other Democratic leaders, lawmakers said Sunday.

Democrats and Republicans alike said the administration's sweeping health care proposals are moving forward on Capitol Hill but cautioned against rushing into a spending plan that could costs trillions of dollars over the next decade. Obama's health and human services secretary said she remains optimistic Congress would send the White House legislation before the year ends.

"I think everything is on the table and discussions are under way," HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said.

But the White House's strategy to leave the legislative back-and-forth to Congress has produced varying and sometimes contradictory versions of health care legislation _ along with delays. As the Senate turns its attention to Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor's confirmation hearings, the focus will turn away from Obama's top domestic priority.

The administration's Democratic partners in Congress hinted they would not deliver legislation before leaving town for an August recess. Sen. Debbie Stabenow, D-Mich., said Obama should be pleased with lawmakers' progress; Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., said "there really is plenty of time."

And Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., insisted that lawmakers would have the overhaul in place before leaving town in August. He does not, however, expect Obama to sign it before lawmakers return to their home states.

The delay would be a blow to the White House and to Democrats' electoral prospects.

The House and Senate are working toward legislation that would deliver on Obama's popular goals from his presidential campaign, but they are hardly in unison. House Democrats have proposed raising taxes on wealthy Americans to pay for the plan. Democratic leaders, meanwhile, have tried to calm moderate and conservative lawmakers about a proposal that could make their re-election bids more difficult.

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Republicans, seizing on an issue that affects all Americans and has shown a glimmer for hope for an out-of-power political party, have lambasted the proposals as rash and irresponsible. They also see the issue as a way to win House and Senate seats in the 2010 midterm elections.

"I think the bigger issue here is why are we going to increase spending and health care by $1 trillion, $2 trillion, $3 trillion?" said Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H. "Most of which we can't afford, add that to the debt or add it the tax burden of the American people. Why don't we approach this horse from the other end?"

Gregg and other GOP leaders have painted the Democrats' plan as a government takeover of health care delivery systems that leads to rationing of treatment and backlogs at doctors' offices. More broadly, Republicans have tied the plan to out-of-control spending and a bloated federal government.

"There is no chance that it's going to be done by August," said Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz. "President Obama was right about one thing: He said if it's not done quickly, it won't be done at all. Why did he say that? Because the longer it hangs out there, the more the American people are skeptical, anxious and even in opposition to it."

Even lawmakers absent from the Sunday morning news shows found a way to weigh in on the debate. Through his microblogging feed, Sen. Chuck Grassley, the top Republican on the Finance Committee, offered up a Twitter message to the Democrat who runs tax policy in the House, Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y.

"Chr Rangel wealthy 1pc make 27pc of total income pay 40pc of income tax U hv 5pc health care surTax How hi taxes go to satisfy u?Let's talk," Grassley wrote in the abbreviated blast.

Sebelius tried to calm jittery voters who fear Democrats' plan to tax some employer-provided health care benefits as income. She said the details are far from over.

"Well, the House has a version," she said, discounting any version as final. "There are a couple of different proposals being worked on in the Senate."

Sebelius, Stabenow, Conrad and Gregg appeared on CNN's "State of the Union." Schumer appeared on NBC's "Meet the Press." Kyl appeared on ABC's "This Week."

WASHINGTON — Legislation to overhaul the nation's health systems is unlikely to make it through the House and Senate before the August target set by President Barack Obama and other Democratic l...
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- Mas I'm a Fan of Mas permalink
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The miltary health care system (active/retired) is socialized system, works great for them. If a system is in place and works, then the blue print and lesson's learned is available for anyone who wishes to learn. Why keep using the Canada or French or anyone else's system as a talking point. Use the information and handling by our own people as whether it will work or not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 AM on 07/13/2009

I would take a good strong Medicare system pre 'advantage' plan crap anyday!!! VA is awesome also.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 07/13/2009
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 AM on 07/13/2009
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Yeah...

She marries a GAY millionaire republican who ran for Senator.. LOST.. & then she dumps him & becomes a "progressive".

heh!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 AM on 07/13/2009
- knerd I'm a Fan of knerd 21 fans permalink
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LETTER TO NEW YORK TIMES (6/9/09):
If it means raising taxes to pay for universal health coverage, so be it. It seems to me that tax and spend for universal health care coverage is better for America than cutting taxes and being forced to borrow. It would be a sign of substantial progress if politicians could begin to win elections even if they say they support raising taxes.

Private-sector insurance companies are so caught up in making money that they do not want to relinquish control of the health care system. Health care is for people, not profit. If we truly love our neighbors as we love ourselves, we should be willing to pay for health care for all.
_______________________________________________

http://dailyhowler.com/dh061609.shtml

http://dailyhowler.com/dh061809.shtml

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 AM on 07/13/2009
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A short tutorial...

SINGLE PAYER is NOT "Government run healthcare"..

SINGLE PAYER is NOT "Socialized Medicine"...

SINGLE PAYER IS, simply, "We the PEOPLE" insuring OURSELVES.

NO doctors, nurses, medical professional or institutions are overruled or interfered with.. EVER.

ALL this does is get the INSURANCE COMPANIES out of the LOOP.. & along with them.. the PROFIT MOTIVE that drives their decisions regarding YOUR CARE.

Period.

There is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON that ANYONE should succumb to a CURABLE DISEASE in the United States of America.

NONE.

PERIOD.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 AM on 07/13/2009
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That tree would have been cut down.

Funny.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 AM on 07/13/2009
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DEAR THREADNAZI-M0DERAT0RS.....

We are losing some of our BRIGHTEST people because, for some INEXPLICABLE reason, this site has decided to become the exact OPPOSITE of what it started as... a PROGRESSIVE blog... a place for OPEN EXCHANGE.

As peacekitten wrote just a short time ago....

You either believe in free speech or you don't... but you cannot hold your hand out and wait for ADVERTISING money to drop into it, given to you as a "liberal" and staunch defender of “free speech”… while at the same time ARBITRARILY C.ENSORING a website that you claim is open for anyone from the public to participate in.

That means that you don't get to SILENCE people simply because YOU do not like what they have to say.

You can't GAG someone for citing facts and speaking truth that YOU don't want others to know about.... because that makes YOU a HYPOCRITE.

You either BELIEVE in free speech or you DON'T.

You PRACTICE what you PREACH or you DON'T.... and if you don't, you need to expect to be dealt the CONSEQUENCES. ---------------

EXPOSURE.. as an entity that has been CORRUPTED by the same folks that corrupted our NATION.

HYPOCRISY.

This place is NO different than any other, and it should stop MARKETING itself as such....

Just as the republican party should call itself what it is…. just as people who DON'T STAND UP for what THEY BELIEVE IN should at least have the GUTS to call themselves as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 AM on 07/13/2009
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Free speech does not apply in a foreign. There are rules for posting on this site. The FAQ lists them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 AM on 07/13/2009
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It's about the HYPOCRISY.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 AM on 07/13/2009

I like it here, I can call people stuuupid and make fun of what color they are all I want to. its neat

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 AM on 07/13/2009
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WE can call you st00pid, too. Works both ways. We can also make fun of your ignorance.

You are run. I look forward to playing with you. Let the games begin.

Let many flowers bloom.

But when we are not playing, let's converse. I am sure you have good ideas to share, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 AM on 07/13/2009
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That's it....

FANNED!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 AM on 07/13/2009
- kwinyan I'm a Fan of kwinyan 11 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 AM on 07/13/2009
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I like that. Nettles has an amazing voice. And Bon Jovi. Nice.

Thanks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 AM on 07/13/2009
- dteg I'm a Fan of dteg 26 fans permalink
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So what happens if it doesn't get done by August. Is it off the table for the year or what.?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 AM on 07/13/2009
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Then it gets done in September when then return. It is not off the table but people are acting like it is.

Either way, we keep lobbying, calling, e-mailing, and faxing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 AM on 07/13/2009
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Oops. Then it gets done in September when they (Congress) return. It is not off the table but people are acting like it is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 AM on 07/13/2009
- dandypuddin I'm a Fan of dandypuddin 184 fans permalink
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Just until Congress up for re=election get enough lobbyist $$ for their campaigns.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 AM on 07/13/2009
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Congress is trying to put it off to break the momentum of the overwhelming desire of Americans for single payer universal health care.

There is no other reason to put it off.

If it is put off until after their summer vacation, we will then be entering the beginning of the 2010 campaign, it will be too much of a political football to get accomplished. Those running for office will be awash in Big Insurance and PhRma payoffs, and not getting healthcare reform will be spun as a victory for the status quo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 AM on 07/13/2009
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Maybe the lawamakers think Americans have short attention spans, but that won't help the families without insurance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 AM on 07/13/2009
- dandypuddin I'm a Fan of dandypuddin 184 fans permalink
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Why are we allowing our health to be traded on Wall Street for profit?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 AM on 07/13/2009
- dandypuddin I'm a Fan of dandypuddin 184 fans permalink
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This Twitter thing, which I have vehemently objected to, may be an interesting tool. Someone had the idea to twitter the PBS special to every legislator. My question is... how does one twitter?

Link:
http://www.pbs.org/video/video/1178899944/chapter/1/search/billmoyershealthcare

It would be great too, to twitter all the CEOs of all insurance companies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 AM on 07/13/2009

Is the past tense t w a t?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 AM on 07/13/2009
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Ha. I think so. Colbert was on some morning show and used this term and the female anchor blushed, saying she also t w a t t ed? Meredith Viera, I think.

It was funny.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 AM on 07/13/2009
- dandypuddin I'm a Fan of dandypuddin 184 fans permalink
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and someone who does it is a twit I assume?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 AM on 07/13/2009

No that would be twatted.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 AM on 07/13/2009
- kwinyan I'm a Fan of kwinyan 11 fans permalink
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At the very least, twittering would be annoying to the legislators holding out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 AM on 07/13/2009
- mjeffn I'm a Fan of mjeffn 27 fans permalink

Universal Healthcare NOW!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 AM on 07/13/2009
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We have not found life on other planets yet and they may have insurance worked out already.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 AM on 07/13/2009
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Ha.

Maybe they have the cure for all illnesses, as well so we can eat all we want, not exercise and smoke like chimneys.

To space and beyond!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 AM on 07/13/2009
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Music to relax by. Earth wind and fire. Fantasy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SIR0LgdIaY

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 AM on 07/13/2009
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1630 fans permalink
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Yeah. But cut down on offering unsolicited advice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 AM on 07/13/2009
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Shhhhh.

Stop giving advice to people who give advice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 AM on 07/13/2009
- kwinyan I'm a Fan of kwinyan 11 fans permalink
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Nice. I remember them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 AM on 07/13/2009
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I know. I am "ole school" in my music.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 AM on 07/13/2009
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WHY are right-wingers so PETRIFIED to go ON THE RECORD????

C'MON!!!!

If ANY of YOU were dying of a CURABLE DISEASE... would YOU be comfortable in allowing the PROFIT MOTIVE... the "bottom line".. to be part of the decision-making process as to whether or not YOUR life should be saved?

YES?

NO?

Simple question.

SIMPLE ANSWER.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 AM on 07/13/2009
- Melissa I'm a Fan of Melissa 24 fans permalink

Unlike the stimulus package, this one they are going to have to read! What a surprise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 AM on 07/13/2009
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First, what is the fundamental difference between an insurance company's "bottom line" decision and a govt bureaucrat saying "its not in my budget this year?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 AM on 07/13/2009
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INFANTILE EVASION #6.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 AM on 07/13/2009
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Government can be voted out.

Budgets can be increased and increases can be planned for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 AM on 07/13/2009
- dandypuddin I'm a Fan of dandypuddin 184 fans permalink
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PROFIT MOTIVE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 AM on 07/13/2009
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Either way you are dealing with constraints based on the amount of money allocated to health care. The difference is the "for profit" motivation vs the government budget. As we all know the budget in a government is what is considered vital and what is considered "pork". We have an overbloated military budget. Yet, Bush was given a blank check for the War on Terror. Did he have to account for his expenditures. No? The congress still is funding the war. Do they ask for any accountability? No.
But it is WE who are the government. They are our representatives. We just don't exercise our authority and our power.
What I'm saying is we are the government. That "bureaucrat" works for us.
The insurance company takes our money and then works for their investors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 AM on 07/13/2009

I guess it all depends on whose life it is. If it is someone poor I don't think they are worth saving at all. What have they done for society?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 AM on 07/13/2009
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Is this satire or a peed into your depraved pathology?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 AM on 07/13/2009
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If this is your judge, then many would have to die as few do anything for "society" and serve their own interests.

Further, what if a person who grew up poor makes a contribution to society later on, e.g., becoming a community organizer, lawyer, state senator, senator and then President of the United States.

Being poor is a temporary condition. It does not determine ambition or contribution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 AM on 07/13/2009
- dandypuddin I'm a Fan of dandypuddin 184 fans permalink
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Mother Theresa was poor. Jesus was poor. Gandhi was poor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 AM on 07/13/2009
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Being poor does not define your society contributions. Many a poor child grows up to make tremendous contributions. President of the United States and soon-to-be Supreme Court justice Sotomayor, to name a few.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 AM on 07/13/2009
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Sam Levinson wrote this about 50 years ago, and every person he refers to in it was the child of poor immigrants to the US:

It’s a free world; you don’t have to like Jews, but if you don’t, I suggest that you boycott certain products that were developed by poor children who grew up to become physicians and researchers, like the Wasserman test for syphilis; digitalis, discovered by a Dr. Nuslin; insulin, discovered by Dr. Minofsky; chloral hydrate for convulsions, discovered by Dr. Lifreich; the Schick test for diptheria; vitamins, discovered by Dr. Funk; steptomycin, discovered by Dr. Z. Woronan, the polio pill by Dr. A. Sabin and the polio vaccine by Dr. Jonas Salk.

Go on, boycott! Humanitarian consistency requires that my people offer all these gifts to all people of the world. Fanatic consistency requires that all bigots accept syphilis, diabetes, convulsions, malnutrition, infantile paralysis and turberculosis as a matter of principle.

You want to be mad? Be mad! But I’m telling you, you ain’t going to feel so good!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 AM on 07/13/2009
- dandypuddin I'm a Fan of dandypuddin 184 fans permalink
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They can't do it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 AM on 07/13/2009

It's actually funny to watch them try.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 AM on 07/13/2009
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I have been denied more services under medicaid than under private insurance. The profit motive was not a factor while I had private insurace but when I went on my FMLA and onto medicaid it became a choice by the government based on cost.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 AM on 07/13/2009
- wisecrack I'm a Fan of wisecrack 10 fans permalink

I had two surgeries under private insurance with the best of care - at almost zero cost.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 AM on 07/13/2009
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INFANTILE EVASION #9.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 AM on 07/13/2009
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1630 fans permalink
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DrOftrahDivad
your the guy that is so proud to go pee on REagans grave right?
tells others what a brave guy you are to do it right?
and you talk about nonsense?
---------------

Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Thanks for reminding me. I need to do that again. Soon.
I would enjoy it even more now that I know how mucg that bothers you. :-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 AM on 07/13/2009
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I'd do it myself.. but after I got out of the service... I SWORE that I'd never stand in LINE again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 AM on 07/13/2009

Do you really do that? Isn't that really wrong to do? You shouldn't do it, it isnt resectful of the departed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 AM on 07/13/2009
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It's better than Reagan ever deserved.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 AM on 07/13/2009
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1630 fans permalink
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The departed are dead. Get a clue.
Now that you know the truth, would you join me? It's great fun.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 AM on 07/13/2009
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1630 fans permalink
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He didn't depart. He's de-ad.
Jeeez!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 AM on 07/13/2009

Actually I would be very glad to do that. Reagan was one fo the most terrific disasters to ever impact this nation. He was a fraud on every level but one, alzheimers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 AM on 07/13/2009
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