New York Times:
WASHINGTON Since 2001, the Central Intelligence Agency has developed plans to dispatch small teams overseas to kill senior Qaeda terrorists, according to current and former government officials.
Blackwater Hit Squads: What Was the CIA Thinking? - TIME
Blackwater Hit Squads: What Was the CIA Thinking? - TIME
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MinnPost - Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh describes ...
Was The CIA Hiding Cheney's "Executive Assassination Ring"?
MinnPost - Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh describes ...
Was The CIA Hiding Cheney's "Executive Assassination Ring"?
MinnPost - Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh describes ...
Was The CIA Hiding Cheney's "Executive Assassination Ring"?
MinnPost - Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh describes ...
Was The CIA Hiding Cheney's "Executive Assassination Ring"?
MinnPost - Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh describes ...
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If this were Israel, nobody would have any problems with it. 911 changed everything. CIA should have done something like MUNICH!
This is America tho... You know, United States Constitution. The one Republicans accuse Democrats of not honoring..
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SEC. 501. [50 U.S.C. 413] (a)(1) The President shall ensure that the congressional intelligence committees are kept fully and currently informed of the intelligence activities of the United States, including any significant anticipated intelligence activity as required by this title.
Even more specifically. The law demands that the President himself ensure compliance.
Once again for the cherry picking tro//s that are embarrasing America here in public:
The problem is not that there is a will to capture or kill Al-Queda operatives, the problem is, it is not legal for the executive branch to order CIA officials to lie to, or mislead members of congress.
Any questions?
The Bush Adminstration apparently ordered the CIA not to inform Panetta the CIA Director!!!!
It's clear ! People were really placed in horrific positions of silence under threat of what though ... imprisonment ? Libby & che ney outted an agent, ultimately with impunity ! Yet Panetta had to demand anybody having information ah, please give it to me since I'm now the dam n director !!!
Repubs run amok !
Illegal does not even begin to describe these actions!
Are you actually saying that you (never mind the congress) did not know that the CIA was working to eliminate Al Queda leaders. What do you think the preditor attacks in Pakistan are doing?
With the full briefings of appropriate congressional members .. and, I would believe with both nation's approvals !
It may be just me, but something just don't add up right here. I can't understand why this program would need all the cloak and dagger to keep information from Congress if it really had all the intentions laid forth by the many reports. This whole program is suspect IMO. Something is missing beyond the simple legalities of assas.sina
You got it "rogue power" ... little did we know, we were living for at least 7 yrs. under a dictatorship and being told that our "democracy" was being protected and that same democracy was being exported !
Agreed. I do not want any NP to have this much power, not Joe Biden, not anyone.
Once the power is seized, it is nearly impossible to take back. This MUST be investigated and stopped.
Exactly. There is something much worse going on in the background
Well the global world Knows Texas White Male republican are the problem... Men lie forensics does not... Men lied and Lied to Congress and Ruined the Department of Justice--Republican white men from Texas YA'LL
um... what? maybe you should go back to sleep.
Hit squads? I certainly hope it is in our quiver in Afghanistan. At least it's discriminate.
Well a prison can giveback what agents that thought they are above laws .. remember this is the cultivated ego and arroangce of BushCheney Wars..tort
As the norm would have it, repubs are catching he^l trying to explain how they rubberstamped the illegal activities of Bush, Inc. I've heard every lame excuse imagineable ... why, they even use other wrongdoings to justify wrongdoings ! Amazing !
Just wait, when they run out of excuses, they will dig up President Johnson and start with the PeeWee Herman Defense:
"I know you are, but what am I"?
Happens every thread.
It's not even entertaining anymore !
It is well documented that the security processes of al Qaeda make it difficult to penetrate using covert agents.
There are new technologies that can be used to assist.
The technologies and methods of this program seem likely to be the real issues.
These recent media stories are likely to be nonsense concocted to misdirect and to create false and distracting controveries.
They are handed out to media contacts like candy.
The media wraps them in colorful foil and hands them to us.
We eat them up and rave or complain about them.
The trouble is they are made of BS.
Here is the background and legalities of this case.
Truman reorganized the nations intelligence services in 1947. He signed into federal law the National Security Act: http://en.
TITLE 50 > CHAPTER 15 > SUBCHAPTER I > § 403–1Prev | Next § 403–1. Responsibilities and authorities of the Director of National Intelligence
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(a) Provision of intelligence
(1) The Director of National Intelligence shall be responsible for ensuring that national intelligence is provided—
(A) to the President;
(B) to the heads of departments and agencies of the executive branch;
(C) to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and senior military commanders;
(D) to the Senate and House of Representatives and the committees thereof; and
(E) to such other persons as the Director of National Intelligence determines to be appropriate.
If what you offer is accurate, I don't see anything remotely giving a secret ad hoc president the authority to dictate to anybody NOT TO INFORM APPROPRIATE CONGRESSIONAL MEMBERS !
That is right out of the Cornell Law Library.
But this activity would be a Title 10 activity and not Title 50.
Find a link and post it up. We want to see it.
Title 10: Scholarships and work-study for pursuit of graduate degrees in science and technology.
What are you even talking about?
Why wasn't Panetta told? He was CIA Director for over 4 months before he found out.
Why did Cheney order people inside the CIA to hide the program from the CIA Director, and from Congress?
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How did Panetta eventually find out about this program? Who at the CIA is still taking orders from Cheney?
If ad hoc president ch eney had such a great "legal" idea, why didn't he inform the congress yes, and the people of this nation ... suddenly, this is all being characterized as necessary for our safety ... really ... what we got were red, yellow & green lights & duck tape !
Agreed! If I were Panetta, some heads would roll over this one! Hard to believe the arrogance of these people!
It has been reported that Cheney still talks to his buddies at the agency on a daily basis. I would like to know who they are.
This makes no sense. CIA drones routinely kill scores of civilians while trying to kill "high value al Qaeda targets".
More likely one of these "teams" mistook Barry Jennings for a terrorist:
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This is one of the very few intelligent ideas they had.
They should have and we should now use this approach to "hit" select locations and wipe them out around the world.
You might want to start with getting the permission of those soverign nations you intend to "hit" people in !
uh, you mean like Bam bam didn't with Pakistan?
And you would be OK with other Nation's using this same excuse to come into America and ki.ll people to provide for their own "National Security"?
Cool.
Snap !
1) this isn't against another nation, it's against stateless actors 2) yes, if our security depended on it, I say do it and if another nation does it here they will pay a heavy price 3) news flash: I prefer protecting the US to giving a crap re other nations' reciprocity claims
I guess that depends. If they are targetting homegrown terraists like Dubya....
Cheney needs to face charges of breaking the law. He did not have the authority to hide information from congress, and he overstepped his role as VP (breaking ties/stand-in if president is incapacitated). An investigation is warranted, and if this information is proven correct, then legal action should be taken.
Of course, if this were to ever happen, he would just disappear to an undisclosed location with his buddies from the middle east or Halliburton.
what law did he break?
Check post from rich misty, who posted the information.
Well the program, was never really a program, but in a primary form of a plan and SHOT down by the CIA, Liz Cheney is the focus, so MEDIA can probe for info, you think.
Did anyone catch Liz Cheeeeny on MSNBC?
The reason the CIA can't inform Congress on national security programs is because Democrats can't be trusted with national security secrets.
Why is MSNBC giving her a platform? This is not the first time they have giving almost the entire show over to her like this.
That's cheney excuse for breaking the law?
weak...
This is precisely how it's done .. people are too gullible !
just trying to educate the uneducateable
If that is your intention, you'd better get educated yourself first !
Perhaps you need to accuse Panetta of being a world class L I A R in order to begin educating !
Yup, that's exactly what we are doing with you.
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It took me a few minutes... But the law is very clear.
Why do Republicans support breaking the law, and why do they support criminals.
we support breaking the law because, as I said below, it's fun and gets up dimocraps' noses - it's the same reason we support criminal activity
Why is Pat Buchanan on MSNBC. Why has Dan Senor (the new PNAC) become a regular on MSNBC?. Why did I see Tim Griffin (Rove protege and knee deep in the fired attroney scandal) on the Ed show last night? So many questions, no answers.
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First Posted: 07-13-09 11:25 PM | Updated: 07-14-09 07:25 AM