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DAVID ESPO and RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR | July 13, 2009 11:44 PM EST | AP

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President Barack Obama talks about health care reform as he stands with his nominee for Surgeon General, Dr. Regina Benjamin, not pictured, in the Rose Garden of the White House in Washington, Monday, July 13, 2009. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)

WASHINGTON — Moving forcefully on his top domestic priority, President Barack Obama told a powerful Senate chairman on Monday he wants health care legislation ready in the Finance Committee by week's end, according to numerous Democratic officials.

These officials said Obama made his wishes known directly to Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., at a White House meeting attended by administration officials and senior Democratic lawmakers.

It was not immediately clear whether Obama expressed a preference for a bipartisan measure _ which Baucus has been laboring over for months _ or a bill tailored more to Democratic specifications.

Still, the virtual deadline underscored Obama's determination to push initial legislation through both houses of Congress before lawmakers leave the Capitol in August for a vacation.

"Don't bet against us. We are going to make this thing happen," the president told reporters earlier in the day, fresh from an overseas trip that coincided with slippage in momentum for his top domestic priority.

The officials who described the private meeting did so on condition of anonymity, saying they were not authorized to discuss private meetings.

Scott Mulhauser, a spokesman for Baucus, said the senior Democrat "has stressed the Finance Committee will be ready when it has a mark (proposal) that can ensure quality, affordable care for every American, lower costs _ and pass the Senate."

Despite objections from conservative and moderate Democrats, prospects for House action along the president's timetable are better than in the Senate.

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There, majority Democrats are readying legislation, to be introduced as early as Tuesday, that would prohibit insurance companies from denying coverage or charging higher premiums on the basis of pre-existing medical conditions.

The measure would spend billions of dollars subsidizing lower income individuals and families who cannot afford coverage, in an attempt to cut dramatically into the ranks of the uninsured.

To comply with another presidential priority, it would rely on cuts in Medicare and Medicaid to begin slowing the rate of growth in health care spending overall.

The measure is expected to impose a fee equal to 8 percent of a worker's salary on large companies that fail to offer insurance or do not subsidize it at a high enough rate.

Individuals also would have to pay a penalty if they refused to purchase affordable insurance.

Officials announced last week that the measure would include an income tax surcharge on the wealthy, estimated to raise more than $500 billion over the next decade.

Efforts at completing the measure have been slowed in recent days by criticism from moderate and conservative Democrats. Obama met with a delegation of critics on his first business day back at the White House after an overseas trip, and Rep. Henry Waxman of California, one of the committee chairmen involved in drafting the House bill, sat down with them in the evening.

Rep. Mike Ross, D-Ark., head of the Blue Dogs' health care task force, said late in the day that some of the group's concerns were being addressed, but not enough so they could support the House Democrats' bill expected to be released Tuesday.

He noted that more than a half-dozen members of the group have seats on the committee that Waxman chairs, enough to hold up passage.

Across the Capitol, Baucus informed Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, his partner in months of bipartisan talks, of his conversation with the president.

Officials familiar with their negotiations monthslong negotiations said a small number of highly controversial issues remain unresolved.

Among them is the Democratic demand for the government to sell insurance in competition with private industry, a proposal Republican oppose strongly.

Nor is it clear what tax increase would be used to help pay for the legislation. Baucus had made it clear for weeks he would propose taxing the holders of high-cost health insurance policies, but organized labor opposes that and the Senate Democratic leadership stepped in last week to try to kill it.

Fresh from his foreign trip, Obama lost no time signaling his determination to prevail.

"I just want to put everybody on notice, because there was a lot of chatter during the week that I was gone," the president said. "Inaction is not an option."

On Monday, the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee pushed to complete a partisan bill by Tuesday that would create a government-run health plan to compete with private insurers and require employers to provide coverage. Sponsors say the legislation would lead coverage for 97 percent of Americans. Its incomplete price tag is $600 billion over 10 years as the panel _ one of five in Congress working on health care _ is leaving some major cost issues to the Senate Finance Committee.

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Associated Press writers Erica Werner and Alan Fram contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — Moving forcefully on his top domestic priority, President Barack Obama told a powerful Senate chairman on Monday he wants health care legislation ready in the Finance Committee by w...
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- Roses I'm a Fan of Roses 43 fans permalink
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I have real concerns over this bill, specifically
1) the mandates to buy "affordable" care
2) the fact that "affordable" is not defined well
3) that it does not automatically allow everyone coverage
4)that it is administered by the states but overseen by the federal government
5) that it is not defined who will govern the fining process, and how it will work. Could it lead to jail time? Are the feds going to be involved or local jurisdictions? Is it going to be a misdemeanor or a felony? Aren't our courts and jails overcrowded enough?
6) part of the pay structure is going to be sliding scale. Many people cannot afford even that.
Take some time and read about this bill. Doesn't seem very good.
I do like it that the Congress would have to be covered by the government plan though. Keeps 'em honest.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/7/15/753741/-Senate-HELP-Committee-Passes-Health-Reform-Bill

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/7/2/749196/-My-Thoughts-On-Public-Option-In-The-Senate-HELP-Bill

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:44 PM on 07/16/2009
- weatherwaxx I'm a Fan of weatherwaxx 255 fans permalink

This is an issue that cuts across party lines. 75% of Americans want a national healthcare system.

That doesn't mean no private insurance companies. Look at Canada. Canada has national health, and private insurance companies, too. Same in the UK and many other nations.

What national health means is the END OF CORPORATE CONTROL OF OUR HEALTHCARE.

Of course they're fighting it. The 1/2 BILLION they're spending to fight this could give every American health coverage equal to what Federal employees have. But the insurance industry has its snout in the trough and it doesn't want any competition.

It's time for America to become a world-class country in terms of taking care of its own citizens.

YES, WE CAN.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 07/13/2009

Sounds to me like they're bringing HMO mandates to us. They did this in Massachusetts and the "reform" there is a failure, save one area, insurance company profits. Those have done very well in Mass.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 PM on 07/13/2009
- Roses I'm a Fan of Roses 43 fans permalink
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I don't think most people want HMOs (or Mitt-care).

They want a strong public option, where everyone has access to health care.....n­ot just the poor or indigent or uninsured or aged or disabled..­....but everyone!
They want a strong public option, where everyone is covered despite pre-existing conditions.
They want a strong public option, where coverage stays with you despite moving job to job.

They want it to be paid for by equitable taxes on all strata of society, just like we had in the 1990s.

If we had such a plan there would be fair competition among insurance companies that want to retain customers and the cost of health care and insurance would decline.

http://standwithdrdean.com/faq

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 07/14/2009
- layman I'm a Fan of layman 21 fans permalink

For Sure and without further consideration, to have everybody covered is the riight thing to do, the moral thing to do.

However, the embedded public looters in the system are in the way of progress, The argument right now is not whether to have universal health care or not, but how to keep / rebrand / repackage the traditional public looting health care system in some other form or fashion, so that the same old snake oil will keep selling and prosper, as to please the congressionally blessed public looters, . That's the bottom line.

Whether, anybody receive any health or care, nobody cares.,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 07/13/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 155 fans permalink

I would change that to "not enough people in power care" but other than that your description of the current "health care reform process" is perfect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 07/13/2009
- Roses I'm a Fan of Roses 43 fans permalink
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There are two different "public options" out there....o­ne is a "soft" public option and one is a "strong" public option. Too many people do not really pay attention enough to see that some lawmakers are trying to slip the "soft" public option into the healthcare bill. That is not what most people want. The best example of a "soft" public option is seen by the Senate Help bill. Here is
a description of that

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/7/2/115148/5653?new=true

The "strong" public option is best described by Dr. Howard Dean. Here is a description of that. Most people want something akin to this

http://standwithdrdean.com/faq

So, when you hear lawmakers talk about soft and strong, this is what they are talking about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 07/14/2009
- Tackora I'm a Fan of Tackora 8 fans permalink

As far as your upright devotion to it is concerned Mr. President, I would not bet for it either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 07/13/2009
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oh' it's too expensive! HOW are we EVER going to pay for THIS? - the republicans

they didn't have this attitude when they voted for bush tax cuts for the wealthy.

now that there is talk of repealing those cuts, they call them a tax hike for the wealthy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 PM on 07/13/2009
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How can we stop huge Corporate interests from purchasing our Congressional senators/members?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 07/13/2009
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Um....dump the career politicians?

Just sayin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 07/13/2009
- weatherwaxx I'm a Fan of weatherwaxx 255 fans permalink

Change campaign finance laws and BAN CORPORATE LOBBYISTS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 07/13/2009
- Vote2bfree I'm a Fan of Vote2bfree 14 fans permalink

it is Balls to the Walls time and the American people want the Healthcare system revamped and our "reprentatives" need to stop sucking Insurance Lobbyist teet and do what they are asked/told.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 07/13/2009

It is crazy for any "pro-business" Americans to be opposed to Universal or Single-Payer healthcare since either one would dramatically improve our ailing economy:

(1) Health care bills are the #1 reason for bankruptcy and foreclosure--so health care costs are thereby responsible for a huge share of the loss of wealth in the stock market.

(2) there would be more innovation in America if entrepreneurs were able to take the financial risk of starting their own small businesses without also taking a big risk with their family's health.

(3) businesses would be better able to afford to hire new employees if they were not burdened by the high employer costs of providing medical benefits.

(4) businesses would be made more globally competitive if the burden of healthcare did not fall on their shoulders,

(5) one-third of HMO costs are due to unwieldy bureaucracy, whereas Medicare bureaucracy costs are under 5%. Universal healthcare is FAR more efficient and burdened far LESS with bureaucracy than profit-seeking, management-heavy HMOs.

(6) businesses would be more productive if people were not forced to stay in jobs they dislike just to maintain health care.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 07/13/2009
- Mugzi I'm a Fan of Mugzi 12 fans permalink

I would hope they would work in a plan that it is not tied to employment. It would help small businesses so they can reinvest their capital...­more product to hire more people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 07/13/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 155 fans permalink

Of course tying health insurance to employment is one of the major mistakes in our current system. And that is EXACTLY what President Obama is basing his "reform" on as well.

We are going to keep everything wrong with the current system and try to "reform" it by throwing taxpayer dollars at it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 07/13/2009
- Chaimirija I'm a Fan of Chaimirija 56 fans permalink
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not really...t­he fees paid by companies not insuring are a joke..much less expensive than paying for insurance

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 07/13/2009
- Roses I'm a Fan of Roses 43 fans permalink
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Really?
I thought his idea for reform (not to say what the Congress will finally morph it into) was to offer a government plan to everyone (even the unemployed) that they could then take job-to-job. He even stated as such and wrote it down. He is letting people CHOOSE an option to stay with their healthcare tied to their employment or to CHOOSE healthcare that is not.
Most people want the choice.

http://standwithdrdean.com/faq

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/7/15/9544/35631

http://spaces.live.com/editorial/en-us/render/msngroupsclosure.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 07/16/2009
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I urge everyone who takes a few minutes to share their thoughts and opinions about stories and blogs here on HP to take 5 or 10 minutes to craft an email regarding Healthcare Reform and send it to their own senators and congressme­n/congress­women.

Single Payer would be first choice but a Public Health Option would at least be a beginning. Urge Democrats to be a united front about this important piece of the economy. Don't let Republicans and Blue Dog Dems highjack this crucial piece of our economic recovery.

Email and call your representatives, please.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 07/13/2009
- Jane48 I'm a Fan of Jane48 15 fans permalink
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Ditto! Do it now!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 07/13/2009
- Jane48 I'm a Fan of Jane48 15 fans permalink
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This is a ruse by the best Congress money can buy.

The only thing that's holding up health care in Congress is...Congr­ess. These health scare policy companies are now spending all their time and money coaxing Congressmen/women. It is all about the money, after all. In fact, right on this comment queue are numerous repugs and paid insurance company bloggers who are just diving in to save the poor, poor, sociopathic insurance executives.

If anyone wants the truth about health care,
go to http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/07102009/watch2.html

It says it all by a former health insurance executive turned whistle blower.

It's really all about the insurance companies' getting hold of all of your /our money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 PM on 07/13/2009
- LeLoup I'm a Fan of LeLoup 30 fans permalink
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Isn't it remarkable, to say the very least, that this former health insurance executive, Wendell Potter, hasn't been seen elsewhere on TV? (Please correct me if I'm wrong; I'd love to see how TV treats what this guy had to say.)

I guess it is not only Congress that is bought-and­-paid-for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 07/13/2009
- LeLoup I'm a Fan of LeLoup 30 fans permalink
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"A more direct role for the president would be fraught with political risks. He'd get the blame if the effort collapses.­"

How much blame do you think the president would get if he allowed this bought-and-paid-for Congress to produce a monstrosity that would only favor the special interest groups that have everything to win from the status quo? He'd be done.

Sorry, but the president has to get very tough and merciless toward everyone who would dare to oppose him on that one. The health care situation in this country is dire, and could get much worse if unemployment rate keeps going up. There are very few forecasters that predict even a stabilization, let alone a drop in the unemployment rate. So, the president can only go "all in" here.

Furthermore, anyone who listen to Wendell Potter on Bill Moyers will have the definitive confirmation that everything bad we knew about the health care insurance industry is true. This insider demolish every myth the insurance industry has been propagating for decades; myths that were swallowed hook, line and sinker by so many gullible dimwitted pedestrians in this country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:03 PM on 07/13/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 155 fans permalink

The President WILL be held responsible especially since he's the one who killed single payer before he "turned it over" to congress.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 07/13/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 155 fans permalink

We're not "overhauling" the health care system. We're not reforming it either. As plans currently stand under the "public option" we will mildly tweak a few pieces and provide one more government prop to the private health insurance system that has failed us for 40 years.

This is less than a new coat of paint. More like cleaning the gutters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 07/13/2009
- Chaimirija I'm a Fan of Chaimirija 56 fans permalink
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What I would like to see is the cost of premiums with all preExisting conditions included..­..not that I'm a cynic, mind you, but since everyone will be mandated to have health insurance, just curious.


PS: looks like it is a minority of us who keep pointing out that the COST of health care is the real problem...­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 07/13/2009
- Ramirez I'm a Fan of Ramirez 263 fans permalink
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From Glenn Reynolds:
*********

Lots of people are beginning to question the cost of President Barack Obama's healthcare "reform" plans, and with good reason. (Just compare the original projections for Medicare with what it wound up costing in reality).

But there's another cost that isn't getting enough attention. That's the degree to which a bureaucratized healthcare system will squash medical innovation just as we reach a point where dramatic progress is possible. To see how important that is, I don't have to look any farther than my own family.

Perhaps our medical history is more involved than most, but probably not by a lot. And yet many members of my family are living better, happier lives -- or, heck, just living -- because of medical innovations made in recent decades, innovations that probably wouldn't have been made under a government-run health system. And as medical technology progresses by leaps and bounds, the next few decades are likely to see much greater progress, unless it's throttled by bureaucrat­s....

read the whole thing at:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/OpEd-Contributor/The-hidden-cost-of-national-health-care-7952906-50469092.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 PM on 07/13/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 155 fans permalink

The only "innovation" in health insurance is coming up with new reasons to deny claims.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 07/13/2009
- escribacat I'm a Fan of escribacat 301 fans permalink
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Are you actually implying that those health care insurance giants are not bureaucracies? Ever worked for a big corporation? I guess not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 07/13/2009
- CRA1 I'm a Fan of CRA1 5 fans permalink

what is she trying to say?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 07/13/2009
- Jane48 I'm a Fan of Jane48 15 fans permalink
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I'd rather have my government--of the People, for the People, and by the People as my bureaucrats ...

rather than some sociopathic insurance company bureaucrat ! Duh!

As we have it, the sociopathic insurance company bureaucrats has already made our so-called health care twice the price of every other first world country. They have already created by their costs 47 Million Americans without health care and another 40 Million Americans under-insured. What a terrifically disastrous scenario these companies have brought into reality for way-too-many distraught Americans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 07/13/2009
- weatherwaxx I'm a Fan of weatherwaxx 255 fans permalink

And what is the insurance industry paying you to troII here?

Are you seriously saying that the only medical innovation occurs in America? That ALL the other developed nations--which, incidentally, have medical research institutions as well as national healthcare--can do something America can't?

75% of Americans know that it is PAST time to stop treating our healthcare as a commodity to be exploited, and to stop throwing sick people away to die when they run out of money.

I've lost at least two friends to treatable heart conditions because either they couldln't get coverage or were denied treatment.

America needs to take back control of its own healthcare. And the simplest way to do that is to stop letting insurince companies practice medicine without a license.

Go plmp your corporate view somewhere else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 PM on 07/13/2009
- Jane48 I'm a Fan of Jane48 15 fans permalink
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This is a ruse by the best Congress money can buy.

The only thing that's holding up health care in Congress is...CONGR­ESS. The Un-surance companies are now spending all their time and money coaxing Congressmen/women. IT IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY AFTER ALL...the insurance companies' PROFITS. In fact, right on this comment queue are numerous repugs and paid insurance company bloggers who are just diving in to save the poor, poor, sociopathic insurance executives.

If anyone wants the truth about health care,
go to http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/07102009/watch2.html

It says it all by a former health insurance executive turned whistle blower, VP for Cigna, Wendell Potter.

It's all about the insurance companies money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 07/13/2009
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