CIT Group: Washington Considers If Lender Is 'Too Big Too Fail'

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First Posted: 07-14-09 01:11 PM   |   Updated: 07-14-09 01:14 PM

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The CIT Group is one of the nation's biggest lenders to small businesses. But a debate is swirling in Washington over whether it is large enough -- or important enough -- to save.

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The CIT Group is one of the nation's biggest lenders to small businesses. But a debate is swirling in Washington over whether it is large enough -- or important enough -- to save. Get HuffPost Bus...
The CIT Group is one of the nation's biggest lenders to small businesses. But a debate is swirling in Washington over whether it is large enough -- or important enough -- to save. Get HuffPost Bus...
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- GreyWolfSC I'm a Fan of GreyWolfSC 8 fans permalink

If they need a bailout, they've already failed. So, no, they are not to big to fail and cannot have any more of our money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 PM on 07/15/2009

What would these guys do to the small business owner.....take him to court...liquidate his business......kick him out on the street........and leave him without a dime......lets use a little of their own medicine on them.........take our losses ......and auction them off to the highest bidder.........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 AM on 07/15/2009

Since the morality question has already been breeched and trampled into the dirt, we must consider the pragmatic question: How are we going to keep funding billions to pay off bad loans of financial institututions? Setting the precedent was in itself poor decision making. Continuing the practice may save the banks and break the American government. About half of the big banks are failing, contrary to the dishonest reporting. They must fail or our Republic will fail. Why? Our currency will be of the same quality as the Weimar Republic. We would follow that failure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 07/14/2009

Be sue to give them enough for monthly bonuses and exotic junkets!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 07/14/2009
- mjtaylor22 I'm a Fan of mjtaylor22 38 fans permalink
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they not lendign anyway, take em over if you must but break them the heck up
just like wamu etc etc....all htis free for all money becasue of too big to fail crap.......
re instate glass stegall asap and jail former senator gramm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:23 PM on 07/14/2009

The next headline will read bigger bank agrees to buy CIT for pennies on the dollar if they get bail out money. DUH. Why do you think the government ran the mafia out of this country. They didn't like the competition.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 07/14/2009
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TOO BR0KE to stay in ONE P1ECE!

TOO BIG to stay in ONE P1ECE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 07/14/2009

Since they are tooooo big to fail, let's hold off on helping them and see if this statement is true or not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 PM on 07/14/2009
- hearmeout I'm a Fan of hearmeout 13 fans permalink
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What's another bailout amongst friends?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:24 PM on 07/14/2009
- doogiedude I'm a Fan of doogiedude 8 fans permalink

It is interesting "a debate is swirling in Washington" regarding whether CIT Group is too big to fail, while no debate appears to be swirling about whether state governments are too big to fail.

I'm not saying state government should or should not be bailed out, I just find it interesting this "too big to fail" issue only seems to come up when the entity in question is a bank.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 07/14/2009
- spinns17 I'm a Fan of spinns17 35 fans permalink

maybe they should hire bush and paulson.they know how to handle money.lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 07/14/2009
- itolduso I'm a Fan of itolduso 30 fans permalink

Our leadership is force-feeding the wrong end of the animal. Money is the 'fertilizer' of our economy...piling it up in the marble vaults of our biggest banks does none of us any good. That money needs to be spread out on the ground, down here, where 'real crops' grow. Put it straight into the hands of those who build, and teach, and heal, and repair. Give it to those who serve, and create, & protect...and pretty soon we'll start growing into the country we used to dream of being.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 07/14/2009
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Glass-Steigel them!

Divide them up and get rid of the JUNK at the expense of the Stakeholders!

Bye Bye TOO-BIG-TO-FAIL!

With $32 TRILLION of Toxic Derivatives Hidden "Off-BALANCE-SHEET" why save them or any of these WS MAMMOTHS who have OUT-LIVED their TIME! Only We11s has a tolerable amount of such DEBT!

When did it sound like a good idea to have "OFF-BALANCE-SHEET" accounting? Wasn"t this an invention by the ENR0N Accountants Arthur Anderson to hide the corrupt practices of ENR0N? Why is the ENR0N L00PHOLE still legal? AND Why is Wall Street still using it to hide their FAKE ACCONTING?

A Federal Agency in our Government, the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, OCC, issues a quarterly Report that has the following info:

1 JPM0RGAN C $81 TRILLION in Toxic Derivatives
2 B 0F AM $78 TRILLION
3 G0LDMAN SA $48 TRILLION
4 M0RGAN STA $39 TRILLION
5 C1T1GROUP $32 TRILLION
6 WE11S F@RG $5 TRILLION

http://www.occ.gov/ftp/release/2009-72a.pdf
It is on page 23!

Return Democracy to our Congress and our Country for the first time since Jackson!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 07/14/2009
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Wilbur Ross, one of the super-rich Timmy picked for his PPIP program, in a RARE MOMENT of FULL HONESTY on CNBC last Monday, said,

"This is the largest TRANSFER of DEBT from the PRIVATE Banks to the Government in History and it will take MANY YEARS."

So are they going to gradually weigh down Americans with 50 years of GDP Growth ($700 Trillion) that will take 200 years to work OFF?

Close the Zombie BANKS, FD1C and C0NGRESS!

Wilbur Ross is also implying it is the Greatest transfer of wealth from the American People/Government to Wall Street over MANY YEARS as a corollary!

Thanks Wilbur for the RARE MOMENT of FULL HONESTY from Wall Street!

CNBC has the video interview with Maria!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 PM on 07/14/2009
- mjtaylor22 I'm a Fan of mjtaylor22 38 fans permalink
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u da man mr taylor, glass stegall them, break em up
into lil pieces
too big to fail, sounds likethat should only be a shareholder issue to me..
teh govt could set up a facility to take over the loan servicing etc, and maybe we could get some more of our darn money back..............

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 07/14/2009
- dnddays I'm a Fan of dnddays 6 fans permalink
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They should change their name to Goldman Sachs if they need money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 07/14/2009
- Sundialsvc4 I'm a Fan of Sundialsvc4 139 fans permalink

I will be very frank: "these organizations are eyeballs-deep in financial crime." Their business model cannot succeed, and furthermore it facilitates crime. This crime has consumed them from within, as crime always does when it is unchecked.

This company, and all companies like it, must be dismantled ... it cannot be "insurance, banking and finance at the same time." Its dealings must be thoroughly reviewed, and many criminal charges must be filed as a consequence thereof.

We do not have a choice in this matter; nor should we entertain any. We should not throw billions or trillions of dollars of public money into a criminal throat. We should not "look the other way" when we plainly know that trillions of dollars' worth of so-called "derivative securities" were sold and known to be an outright and complete fraud. We should not accept usury. We should not permit transaction accounting that is designed to maximize fees-and-penalties, this being a direct breach of fiduciary duty to the account-holders. ALL of these things are CRIMES, and ladies and gentlemen, all 306 million of us (and that's just in the USA) are the PLAINTIFFS.

When you look at "the economic downturn," think ... "actual damages." Think ... "an intentional tort." Think ... "this is the direct consequence of myriad illegal acts." Think ... "this is what happens when you see crime (and high crime) and do not swiftly and decisively stop it."

No. Not in this country.

No.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 PM on 07/14/2009
- doneflyin I'm a Fan of doneflyin 29 fans permalink

Yes, agree 100%! I'm a fan.

So many crooks and so little time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 07/14/2009
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