Conductor Edward Downes And Wife Joan Die In Swiss Suicide Clinic

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JILL LAWLESS | July 14, 2009 10:34 PM EST | AP

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This undated handout photo made available Tuesday July 14, 2009 shows renowned British conductor Edward Downes. British conductor Edward Downes and his wife have died at an assisted suicide clinic in Switzerland, their family said Tuesday July 14, 2009. The family said Downes, 85, and his 74-year-old wife Joan died Friday "peacefully and under circumstances of their own choosing" at a Zurich clinic run by the group Dignitas. "After 54 happy years together, they decided to end their own lives rather than continue to struggle with serious health problems," the statement said. (AP Photo/Bill Cooper/PA Wire) UNITED KINGDOM OUT NO SALES NO ARCHIVE

LONDON — He spent his life conducting world-renowned orchestras, but was almost blind and growing deaf – the music he loved increasingly out of reach. His wife of 54 years had been diagnosed with terminal cancer. So Edward and Joan Downes decided to die together.

Downes – Sir Edward since he was knighted by Queen Elizabeth II in 1991 – and his wife ended their lives last week at a Zurich clinic run by the assisted suicide group Dignitas. They drank a small amount of clear liquid and died hand-in-hand, their two adult children by their side. He was 85 and she was 74.

The deaths were a poignant coda to Edward Downes' illustrious musical career, and have reignited a debate in Britain about whether people should be able to help ailing loved ones end their lives.

The couple's children said Tuesday that they died "peacefully and under circumstances of their own choosing" on Friday.

"After 54 happy years together, they decided to end their own lives rather than continue to struggle with serious health problems," said a statement from the couple's son and daughter, Caractacus and Boudicca.

"They wanted to be next to each other when they died," Caractacus Downes told London's Evening Standard newspaper. "They held hands across the beds.

"It is a very civilized way to be able to end your life," he added.

Downes' manager Jonathan Groves said the couple were inseparable and would have reached the decision together.

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"Sir Edward would have survived her death, but he decided he didn't want to. He didn't want to go on living without her," Groves said.

One of Britain's most renowned conductors, Downes had a long and eminent career, which included years as head of the BBC Philharmonic and a five-decade association with the Royal Opera House.

In recent years he had become almost blind and nearly deaf, increasingly relying on his wife for support.

Joan, a former ballet dancer, choreographer and television producer, had devoted years to working as his assistant, but she was recently diagnosed with cancer of the liver and pancreas, and given only weeks to live.

Groves said he was shocked by the couple's deaths but called their decision "typically brave and courageous."

The double suicide is the latest in a series of high-profile cases that have spurred calls for a legal change in Britain, where assisted suicide and euthanasia are banned.

Under British law, assisting a suicide is punishable by up to 14 years in prison. But courts have become reluctant in recent years to convict people. No relative or friend of any of the Britons who have died in Dignitas clinics has been prosecuted.

The Metropolitan Police force said it had been notified of the deaths, and was investigating. Charges are unlikely.

Despite evidence of changing attitudes, parliamentary efforts to change the rules have all been defeated – most recently last week, when Parliament's upper chamber, the House of Lords, voted down an amendment that would have relaxed the prohibition on assisted dying.

Sarah Wootton, chief executive of campaign group Dignity in Dying, said the couple's deaths showed the need to regulate assisted suicide.

"This problem is clearly not going to go away," she said.

"People should be able to make such decisions for themselves, but safeguards are the key," she said.

Peter Saunders, of the anti-euthanasia group Care Not Killing, argued that loosening the law could "put vulnerable people, many of whom already think they are a financial or emotional burden to relatives, carers and the state, under pressure to end their lives through a change in the law."

More than 100 Britons have died in Swiss clinics run by Dignitas since the organization was established in 1998. The organization takes advantage of the country's liberal laws on assisted suicide, which suggest that a person can be prosecuted only if they are acting out of self interest.

Roughly 100 foreigners – most of them terminally ill – come to Switzerland each year to end their lives. Some are healthy except for a disability or severe mental disorder. Typically they go to a room run by Dignitas, which provides them with a lethal drink of barbiturates. In five minutes they fall asleep – and never wake up.

Other countries, including the Netherlands and Belgium, and the states of Oregon and Washington in the United States, allow the incurably sick to obtain help from a doctor to hasten their death.

Only Switzerland, in a law dating back to 1942, permits foreigners to come and kill themselves. Other organizations provide such services for Swiss residents, but Dignitas is the main organization for foreigners.

Critics accuse Dignitas of promoting "suicide tourism."

Dignitas charges 10,000 Swiss francs ($9,200) for its services, which include taking care of legal formalities and arranging consultations with a doctor willing to prescribe the barbiturates.

Edward Downes is one of the most prominent Britons to have traveled to Switzerland because of its open attitude toward the practice.

He was born in 1924 in Birmingham in central England. He studied at Birmingham University, the Royal College of Music and under German conductor Hermann Scherchen.

In 1952, he joined London's Royal Opera House as a junior staffer – his first job was prompting soprano Maria Callas. He made his debut as a conductor with the company the following year and went on to become associate music director. Throughout his life he retained close ties to the Royal Opera, conducting almost 1,000 performances of 49 different operas there over more than 50 years.

He also had a decades-long association with the BBC Philharmonic Orchestra, where he became principal conductor and later conductor emeritus. In the 1970s, he became music director of the Australian Opera, conducting the first performance at the iconic Sydney Opera House in 1973.

Edward and Joan Downes are survived by their children and grandchildren. The family said the couple had no religious beliefs, and there would be no funeral.

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Associated Press Writers Ernst E. Abegg and Alexander G. Higgins contributed to this report from Switzerland.

LONDON — He spent his life conducting world-renowned orchestras, but was almost blind and growing deaf – the music he loved increasingly out of reach. His wife of 54 years had been diagnosed with ...
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- Scent I'm a Fan of Scent 32 fans permalink

Two people decide - after a full, rich life - to not suffer through the end but leave peacefully.

All I can see in that is love, compassion, and most of all something we are deprived of every step of the way to our so called free market society: free will.

There are two sides to free will:

1. It is what sets us apart, what makes us not only curious but willing to learn and thrive through a better future. Free will makes us decide to help others in need and join others in purpose and joy.

2. It also gives us the freedom to decide to do the exact opposite. And - I am more than sad to note - this side is what America has become today. Both internally and externally. The media no longer give information but filter it so we will believe something we would otherwise not even consider. Politicians tell us they want to make a better world but all they do is destroy and make people ghate each other. Mediacations no longer heal but preserve illness so more medication is needed. Our whole foreign policy is about taking freedom and not supporting it.

And here are two people deciding they want to go out peacefully, together, and of their own free will.

And there are the companies cringing in fear for the profits they make on torturing people as long as there can be money sucked out of their families.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 AM on 07/16/2009
- temenos I'm a Fan of temenos 26 fans permalink
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The choice to end one's life should be personal. Anything else presupposes that the state owns your life. If you ever needed a more perfect example of the ludicrous nature of the laws of man consider that a couple of hundred years ago attempted suicide was a capital offense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 AM on 07/16/2009

When there is a mass rush towards suicide you know that something is very wrong with our society.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 PM on 07/16/2009

Hahaha! Good point!
But attempted suicide was a capital offense because the state was the protector of your soul. After confessing to your crimes under torture, then you could be absolved of your sins and forgiven. You were executed then to deter others least they die and go to hell.
The state is still trying to protect our soul.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 07/16/2009
- boredwell I'm a Fan of boredwell 8 fans permalink
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In the early days before the "cocktail, " I watched many friends die of complications from AIDS. It wasn't pretty. Especially when those without financial resources were shipped off to derelict nursing facilities where they were feared, isolated and basically neglected. Those places, not all of them bad though most marginally just OK, acted like a lethal dose of barbiturates. What was lacking was dignity. Our fear of death should not inform laws that preclude others from assisted suicide. Under such extenuating circumstances, the Downes' decision seems to have been pragmatic. By asserting their independence, they remained a dynamic duo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 AM on 07/16/2009
- ChelseaC I'm a Fan of ChelseaC 215 fans permalink
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I hope Sir Edward and Joan are at peace with the angels now.


I support the right to die.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 AM on 07/16/2009

I don't believe in suicide, but I must say, that is not just romantic in a somewhat macabre way, but the very notion that a country has a clinic that will allow you to kill yourself makes me wonder, "Is this really the freest country on the face of the earth?"
This is probably the cue for the right wing fan atics ask me, "Why do you hate America?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 PM on 07/15/2009
- lbrty 2112 I'm a Fan of lbrty 2112 13 fans permalink

just might be the ultimate romantic statement

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 07/15/2009
- eraofpeace I'm a Fan of eraofpeace 4 fans permalink
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It is heartening to find that so many posters can appreciate the reason for the decision this couple had to make. What is surprising is that so many would chose the same path if they had to! Seems like the old stigmas and taboos are fading and is being replaced by a practical approach to the business of life and death.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 07/15/2009
- KOisGod I'm a Fan of KOisGod 347 fans permalink
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Someday we'll be advanced enough, that we will be able to leave on the hour of our chosing. Until we reach that day, there should be an out for the terminally ill, a humane, sane, agreed upon way to leave the body behind, and return back to our true home in God.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 PM on 07/15/2009
- joeyfoto I'm a Fan of joeyfoto 57 fans permalink
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This is sad and beautiful in a very sad way. If anyone reads my almost 500 posts here, they will see that I have an opinion on a great many subjects. This is a matter where I have a emotional response to the life situation of two, clearly accomplished, beautiful and loving people. However, I have no opinion about their decision to end their lives, because their deeply considered and very personal decision is none of my business.

It is interesting that this loving couple chose Bastille Day to end their lives... Jour Bastille Heureux. It is also interesting that Edward and Joan Downes went to Switzerland to exercise this freedom, which would be denied to them in America... the land of the free and the home of the brave. Remember, when ex-President Bush, spoke about America, he said: "They hate us for our freedom." That is laughably and embarrassingly untrue from the perspective of the general standard of liberty that exists in Switzerland and much of Europe. The death, that Americans should be concerned about, is the demise of our rights due to usurpation by an invasive government, that is run too largely by constricted opinions of a minority religion on the appropriate conduct of citizens. OK, I do have an opinion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 07/15/2009
- KOisGod I'm a Fan of KOisGod 347 fans permalink
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Thanks, well said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 07/15/2009

Some have insisted that God forbids this. I think they're wrong on so many different levels:

First - the commandment, when properly translated is, "Thou shalt not murder" - soldiers are allowed to kill in a war of self defense, if you are being attacked, you may kill in self defense - murder is prohibited, not killing - even if you stretch the word "kill" to include suicide - which is a very long stretch.

Second - my grandmother, mentioned some pages ago, who starved herself to death - was a lifelong Catholic, extremely devout. She and her husband served the church their entire life, she had the counsel of a priest through her life and death. She obviously didn't think she was committing a sin - I think I'll take her decades of life and belief and experience to mean she knew what God wanted as well or better than those here with a different perspective.

Third - as my grandmother, as so many people illustrate - religions differ on this, even different priests give different answers. To believe that your one answer is not only right, but so right that you can choose for everyone else, is unbelievable hubris!

Finally - If your God would condemn someone to eternal damnation for this - that's no God I am willing to respect nor obey. Vicious tyrants who send people to eternal torture for refusing to live in agony should be resisted - and if I were to believe that

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:03 PM on 07/15/2009
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It is my belief that spiritually, all that matters is intent...
And anything done out of real love & compassion is desirable. Suffering is not praiseworthy -- especially if there is no lesson to be learned in its aftermath.

So, in a case like this, believers with a superficial understanding of the Law of Love might argue that this is wrong, but how can it be, when both love & life are supposed to be eternal...

Assisted suicide/euthanasia and abortion are arguably based on the same ignorance about the natural of life on planet earth and the importance of physicality...

But I have hope that one day, we'll allow each other the true freedom that comes from truly loving and RESPECTING life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 07/16/2009
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The only reason suicide is a taboo is because the holy rollers discovered that many sheeple were offing themselves to get there quicker after hearing about heaven and its wonders, . So they quickly added a taboo against the act.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 07/15/2009
- hemnebob I'm a Fan of hemnebob 2 fans permalink

wow...
that is very interesting and quite logical.

aren't we the greediest little creatures?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 07/16/2009

Our entire society is suicidal. Thats why we mess up everything so bad. This is why we created the concept of heaven so that we believe we can have way out of the devastating nightmare.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 07/16/2009
- Boadicea I'm a Fan of Boadicea 68 fans permalink

Bravo! Bravo!

Our human egos are in the way of a sensible approach to death.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 07/15/2009
- carolo I'm a Fan of carolo 8 fans permalink
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Good for them. They decided to die together and with dignity instead of laying in some nursing home with people changing their diapers. People have a choice in how they live their lives and should have a choice in how they end it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 07/15/2009
- Pettit I'm a Fan of Pettit 2 fans permalink

What a beautiful story!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:37 PM on 07/15/2009
- Tulka2 I'm a Fan of Tulka2 298 fans permalink
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When we have universal health care, then we can consider access to suicide, but not before. It would be too easy to segue into "Oh, Dad, don't you want to leave a little money for the kids? Your bank account is getting really low and we don't have the money to support you."

It is appealing to think of ending in this dignified, Old Roman style. My dogs have had enviable deaths like this. They went in painless peace surrounded by beings who loved them. Just like abortion, this needs to be in the hands of loving families. Do you want government to have any kind of say-so? (Yikes. Solent green.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 07/15/2009
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