Conductor Edward Downes And Wife Joan Die In Swiss Suicide Clinic

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JILL LAWLESS | July 14, 2009 10:34 PM EST | AP

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This undated handout photo made available Tuesday July 14, 2009 shows renowned British conductor Edward Downes. British conductor Edward Downes and his wife have died at an assisted suicide clinic in Switzerland, their family said Tuesday July 14, 2009. The family said Downes, 85, and his 74-year-old wife Joan died Friday "peacefully and under circumstances of their own choosing" at a Zurich clinic run by the group Dignitas. "After 54 happy years together, they decided to end their own lives rather than continue to struggle with serious health problems," the statement said. (AP Photo/Bill Cooper/PA Wire) UNITED KINGDOM OUT NO SALES NO ARCHIVE

LONDON — He spent his life conducting world-renowned orchestras, but was almost blind and growing deaf – the music he loved increasingly out of reach. His wife of 54 years had been diagnosed with terminal cancer. So Edward and Joan Downes decided to die together.

Downes – Sir Edward since he was knighted by Queen Elizabeth II in 1991 – and his wife ended their lives last week at a Zurich clinic run by the assisted suicide group Dignitas. They drank a small amount of clear liquid and died hand-in-hand, their two adult children by their side. He was 85 and she was 74.

The deaths were a poignant coda to Edward Downes' illustrious musical career, and have reignited a debate in Britain about whether people should be able to help ailing loved ones end their lives.

The couple's children said Tuesday that they died "peacefully and under circumstances of their own choosing" on Friday.

"After 54 happy years together, they decided to end their own lives rather than continue to struggle with serious health problems," said a statement from the couple's son and daughter, Caractacus and Boudicca.

"They wanted to be next to each other when they died," Caractacus Downes told London's Evening Standard newspaper. "They held hands across the beds.

"It is a very civilized way to be able to end your life," he added.

Downes' manager Jonathan Groves said the couple were inseparable and would have reached the decision together.

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"Sir Edward would have survived her death, but he decided he didn't want to. He didn't want to go on living without her," Groves said.

One of Britain's most renowned conductors, Downes had a long and eminent career, which included years as head of the BBC Philharmonic and a five-decade association with the Royal Opera House.

In recent years he had become almost blind and nearly deaf, increasingly relying on his wife for support.

Joan, a former ballet dancer, choreographer and television producer, had devoted years to working as his assistant, but she was recently diagnosed with cancer of the liver and pancreas, and given only weeks to live.

Groves said he was shocked by the couple's deaths but called their decision "typically brave and courageous."

The double suicide is the latest in a series of high-profile cases that have spurred calls for a legal change in Britain, where assisted suicide and euthanasia are banned.

Under British law, assisting a suicide is punishable by up to 14 years in prison. But courts have become reluctant in recent years to convict people. No relative or friend of any of the Britons who have died in Dignitas clinics has been prosecuted.

The Metropolitan Police force said it had been notified of the deaths, and was investigating. Charges are unlikely.

Despite evidence of changing attitudes, parliamentary efforts to change the rules have all been defeated – most recently last week, when Parliament's upper chamber, the House of Lords, voted down an amendment that would have relaxed the prohibition on assisted dying.

Sarah Wootton, chief executive of campaign group Dignity in Dying, said the couple's deaths showed the need to regulate assisted suicide.

"This problem is clearly not going to go away," she said.

"People should be able to make such decisions for themselves, but safeguards are the key," she said.

Peter Saunders, of the anti-euthanasia group Care Not Killing, argued that loosening the law could "put vulnerable people, many of whom already think they are a financial or emotional burden to relatives, carers and the state, under pressure to end their lives through a change in the law."

More than 100 Britons have died in Swiss clinics run by Dignitas since the organization was established in 1998. The organization takes advantage of the country's liberal laws on assisted suicide, which suggest that a person can be prosecuted only if they are acting out of self interest.

Roughly 100 foreigners – most of them terminally ill – come to Switzerland each year to end their lives. Some are healthy except for a disability or severe mental disorder. Typically they go to a room run by Dignitas, which provides them with a lethal drink of barbiturates. In five minutes they fall asleep – and never wake up.

Other countries, including the Netherlands and Belgium, and the states of Oregon and Washington in the United States, allow the incurably sick to obtain help from a doctor to hasten their death.

Only Switzerland, in a law dating back to 1942, permits foreigners to come and kill themselves. Other organizations provide such services for Swiss residents, but Dignitas is the main organization for foreigners.

Critics accuse Dignitas of promoting "suicide tourism."

Dignitas charges 10,000 Swiss francs ($9,200) for its services, which include taking care of legal formalities and arranging consultations with a doctor willing to prescribe the barbiturates.

Edward Downes is one of the most prominent Britons to have traveled to Switzerland because of its open attitude toward the practice.

He was born in 1924 in Birmingham in central England. He studied at Birmingham University, the Royal College of Music and under German conductor Hermann Scherchen.

In 1952, he joined London's Royal Opera House as a junior staffer – his first job was prompting soprano Maria Callas. He made his debut as a conductor with the company the following year and went on to become associate music director. Throughout his life he retained close ties to the Royal Opera, conducting almost 1,000 performances of 49 different operas there over more than 50 years.

He also had a decades-long association with the BBC Philharmonic Orchestra, where he became principal conductor and later conductor emeritus. In the 1970s, he became music director of the Australian Opera, conducting the first performance at the iconic Sydney Opera House in 1973.

Edward and Joan Downes are survived by their children and grandchildren. The family said the couple had no religious beliefs, and there would be no funeral.

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Associated Press Writers Ernst E. Abegg and Alexander G. Higgins contributed to this report from Switzerland.

LONDON — He spent his life conducting world-renowned orchestras, but was almost blind and growing deaf – the music he loved increasingly out of reach. His wife of 54 years had been diagnosed with ...
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My wife and been married 41 years ,more than a wife my best friend. I know when you someone is married for a long time they become one. I have c.o.p.d. 7years now. 4 years ago I quit all meds .when I did I was doing better. Can't do alot of things I used to do . But I would like to leave this world before she does could'nt face losing her. May they both rest in peace ,how sad this story is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 07/15/2009
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but beautiful, isn;t it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 07/15/2009
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Rest peacefully. The Lord will understand.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 07/15/2009
- JFaye I'm a Fan of JFaye 34 fans permalink

What love... absolute love.

My dad passed away leaving my mom alone ... 55 years of marriage. I recall months after his death and trying to minimize her depression, she said "Half of me is dead." For a while, it seemed all of her became an empty shell. They were like one ... each other's best friend and lovers. Learning to live without her husband was perhaps the most challenging time of my mother's life.

Fortunately, her health is good and now five years later, she has found laughter in her children, grands and great-gran­dchildren.

I will make no judgement about Mr. and Mrs. Downes. They did what they felt best for them... Thank God they knew such an exceptional love.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 07/15/2009
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Did he really left her? Or he just went ahead and prepared a party for their eventual union again? Man's limited knowledge must not second gueststhe creator's infinite knowledge.

Peace.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 07/15/2009
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Agreed.
And isn't it second guessing the creator's infinite knowledge when we make up rules in the name of God which we then insist that everyone obey?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 07/15/2009

He was going blind and deaf - most of the way there. I think that was a factor that was lacking for your mom - hard to reconnect when most of the ways we communicate would be denied to him.

I too make no judgment - not of either choice. Not when someone is that old.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 07/15/2009
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Again, friend, don't be so troubled of things of this earth that you would sacrifice your soul. I think it is normal to be sad if your best friend of years went ahead of you. But come to think of it if your friend led a straight life then wouldn't it nice to think that he/she is somewhere where sickness and hardship is non existent? Life here on earth is nothing compared to eternity in the afterlife.

Peace.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 07/15/2009
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When I am no longer mobile, losing my mind, and needing someone to change my diapers...­this is the way I want to go. It's all about quality of life and towards the end, you can't reverse the affects of aging & disease. I think they offer a great service. It's MY LIFE, let me decide when it's my time to go.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 07/15/2009

I totally agree. Eking out the last years of your life hyped up on drugs unable to have any semblance of life is intolerable. I resent politicians who are too gutless to allow me the freedom of deciding when and how I die. That I have to be held hostage to other people's religious beliefs is just not on. Despite all the pro-life babble about how people will be killed for their money, property etc etc it dosen't wash. Laws can be put in place to control the use of euthanasia. Before anyone says 'but there will be illegal procedures' thousands will die etc. There will always someone who will flout the law, so, catch and prosecute them. But let the rest of the population who agree with euthanasia die with dignity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 PM on 07/15/2009
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A good human example of sane folks practicing their right to choose with dignity, the time and place of their exit out of this life when they are at a ripe age and their bodies are close to termination. This is Pro-Life at it's best. The whole experience of living until the end, without the bitterness of intolerable pain and tubes prolonging a brain dead corps.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 PM on 07/15/2009
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I have watched and read several pieces on this clinic and I love them. There are some great videos detailing the whole process. They really handle it well. I hope they are around for me someday. Though if I’m not mistaken the price has gone up since I last read about it. I hope it doesn’t get much more, because no one’s insurance will pay for this!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 07/15/2009
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Your life belongs to you to do with as you see fit. this is nature's approach to life. Why one adult feels they have the right to regulate the choices of another adult is beyond me. When suicide, or drinking, or smoking or hand gliding or wearing seat belt or a helmet, when these choices are taken away from one adult by another, then we presume to be treating all adults like children. No one knows more about my life than me. That is true for every Adult out there. Where people have failed themselves is to allow governments the right to regulate them to the point that we become incapable of taking responsibility for our own life and choices. No the government should not stop people from committing suicide, we are far greater able to make the tough and better choices of our lives than we do when we have governments denying us our choice and freedoms, no matter what we see those to be.

Gypsy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 PM on 07/15/2009
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Friend you're talking about animals' approach to life and not humans. Animals life do belong to them simply because they can't argue otherwise. We can do a lot of things. We can effect positive changes. We're given so much and it would only be fitting to use those gifts the best way we know how to benefit the greatest number of people.

Peace.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 PM on 07/15/2009
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Is suicide really necessary to end suffering and futile medical expense? All one has to do is issue a "do not resuscitate" order and the suffering will end on its own.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 07/15/2009
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Oh, and let them die slowly and maybe painfully. Mm hmm.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 07/15/2009
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Eventually, sure. Months, years, maybe decades later.

One of my neighbors committed suicide last year. He had lived in excruxiating pain for years and could no longer take it. He went into the back yard so he wouldn't leave a mess for his wife to clean up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 07/15/2009
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No, you still get suffering and futile medical expense on the other end of it all.

Besides, what's wrong with self-determination?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 PM on 07/15/2009

No, it won't. Those orders are often neglected, and don't always cover every situation. Terri Schiavo for instance - a feeding tube was initially useful, while she might recover - but once her chances went away, the DNR would not do a thing to have it removed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 07/15/2009
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Kudos to Switzerland and their sensible approach to this. Considering that not a single one of us was asked if we wanted to be born, It should be up to the individual to make the choice of when to end it - for whatever reason. If he or she believes in some god and wants to go when "god" calls, that should be his or her decision. If he or she feels that it is a personal decision, so be it. I hope that when my health fails to a point where I feel it is time to go, that I will have the means to do so. I have seen too many people suffer - my own dad included - because of antiquated laws, religious posturing and so-called moral standards. The latter most often advocated by those with no morals at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 07/15/2009
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Bravehearts live and die beyond the safe boundaries of conformity and the false hopes of religious devotion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 07/15/2009
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Ooooh, I'll be stealing that one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:23 PM on 07/15/2009
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Beautiful statement, BB. May I borrow it?

Since facing the death of a family member who refused treatment for pancreatic cancer and starved herself to death, my conscience has kept me awake nights. Did we try hard eough to change her mind? How was it that none of us could talk her into going on?

Well after this I can finally exhale. She didn't love us any less, and it was we who didn't want to release her, hoping for her healing and hoping for a miracle. But why was it necessary for her to endure starvation in her final moments? Isn't it a shame?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 07/15/2009
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This is something my husband of 30 years and I have been discussing lately, with some of our parents' generation dying slowly from Alzheimers and other progressive dementias. It is one thing to live with pain or other symptoms which can be controlled through drugs or other supportive care--but long term lack of function like Sir Edward's near total loss of music, or my mother's inability to walk farther than one room to another in an outdoorswoman who loved skiing until her 70's, are imprisonments which no medication can soften.

Isn't it a religious prohibition that motivates and funds the greatest part of "Anti-Euthanasia" groups? Euthanasia is the killing of patients for their own good (decided by someone else) or by the state or other group. Assisted suicide laws must be written to outlaw just what these groups warn against. It's ironic that the Catholic Church and the far right in England and North America were just the groups that were looking the other way, or cheering, when the German Nazi Government were implementing the policies these same groups now worry will occur if assisted suicide is decriminalized in any way. I am not suggesting that suicide is a recommended practise in any circumstance of age or health, but I and my husband would feel more easy about peaceful care at the end of our lives if assisted suicide were available.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 07/15/2009
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It seems, euthanasia has been masked by palliative or hospice care. Often with the latter, patients are provided a massive amount of pain medications for pain management. Over time, these opiates especially compromise the respiratory and cardio systems; overall weakens the patients and they more easily succumb to death. Yes, this care is often encouraged for the terminally ill, but increasingly the chronically ill clinicians quietly cease so-called "heroic" care which primarily stalls death with no known medical cure for debilitating and painful conditions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 07/15/2009
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Typically I tend to stay away from conversations such as this, dealing with such a complex and intimate issue. However, I will say this- if an individual chooses to end their own life in this manner, I cannot agree why this choice would be withheld. Older individuals and individuals suffering from terminal conditions, should have this option available. Of course there's a gray area when it comes to mental illnesses, still, considering that some people simple go in their medicine cabinet, swallowing every pill they can find in order to commit suicide, there should be option available to individuals such as this, to do away with unnecessary prolonged suffering.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 AM on 07/15/2009
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Only God should end life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 07/15/2009
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My goodness! God sure has ended the lives of a lot of innocent people. Especially children. Do you really think he needs to slowly starve them to death? It seems so . . . well . . . unprofessional, don't you think?
I guess it's all a part of HIS beautiful pageantry .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 07/15/2009
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Didn't it ever occur to you that their death meant a life for someone else. Life moves in codes. Very different to crack. You only have your faith to help decipher it.

Peace.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 07/15/2009
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Do you mean God in the form of Cancer, Tuberculosis, Swine Flu, Heart Disease, Commuter train accidents, Plane Crashes, Lighting Strikes etc?

God doesn't seem very helpful in the death department, I'd rather choose my own way of going out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 07/15/2009
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I hear that, especially where children are concerned.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 PM on 07/15/2009
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Particularly for the mentally ill...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 07/15/2009
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My god gave me the brains to choose life and death with dignity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 07/15/2009
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Brain is just a part of you. It doesn't make you whole. Don't let it override everything in your life.

Peace.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 07/15/2009
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Which god? Says who? You?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 07/15/2009
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Hopefully this will be covered in the public option

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 07/15/2009
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I imagine that just before the effects of the barbiturates overcame his consciousness, he must have contemplated the beauty of life.

Because of the stigma attached to suicide, itself a word laden with psychological and psychiiatric connotations as well as religious implications, many who suffer, diseased and frail, forgotten by their families, may approach their end feeling bitter at life for stubbornly refusing to release them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 AM on 07/15/2009

It's not about suicide. Not about the right to die. Nor about the right to help people die.
No, nothing so mundane. It's just a beautiful beautiful love story with death in the tale.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 AM on 07/15/2009
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