Conductor Edward Downes And Wife Joan Die In Swiss Suicide Clinic

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JILL LAWLESS | July 14, 2009 10:34 PM EST | AP

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This undated handout photo made available Tuesday July 14, 2009 shows renowned British conductor Edward Downes. British conductor Edward Downes and his wife have died at an assisted suicide clinic in Switzerland, their family said Tuesday July 14, 2009. The family said Downes, 85, and his 74-year-old wife Joan died Friday "peacefully and under circumstances of their own choosing" at a Zurich clinic run by the group Dignitas. "After 54 happy years together, they decided to end their own lives rather than continue to struggle with serious health problems," the statement said. (AP Photo/Bill Cooper/PA Wire) UNITED KINGDOM OUT NO SALES NO ARCHIVE

LONDON — He spent his life conducting world-renowned orchestras, but was almost blind and growing deaf – the music he loved increasingly out of reach. His wife of 54 years had been diagnosed with terminal cancer. So Edward and Joan Downes decided to die together.

Downes – Sir Edward since he was knighted by Queen Elizabeth II in 1991 – and his wife ended their lives last week at a Zurich clinic run by the assisted suicide group Dignitas. They drank a small amount of clear liquid and died hand-in-hand, their two adult children by their side. He was 85 and she was 74.

The deaths were a poignant coda to Edward Downes' illustrious musical career, and have reignited a debate in Britain about whether people should be able to help ailing loved ones end their lives.

The couple's children said Tuesday that they died "peacefully and under circumstances of their own choosing" on Friday.

"After 54 happy years together, they decided to end their own lives rather than continue to struggle with serious health problems," said a statement from the couple's son and daughter, Caractacus and Boudicca.

"They wanted to be next to each other when they died," Caractacus Downes told London's Evening Standard newspaper. "They held hands across the beds.

"It is a very civilized way to be able to end your life," he added.

Downes' manager Jonathan Groves said the couple were inseparable and would have reached the decision together.

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"Sir Edward would have survived her death, but he decided he didn't want to. He didn't want to go on living without her," Groves said.

One of Britain's most renowned conductors, Downes had a long and eminent career, which included years as head of the BBC Philharmonic and a five-decade association with the Royal Opera House.

In recent years he had become almost blind and nearly deaf, increasingly relying on his wife for support.

Joan, a former ballet dancer, choreographer and television producer, had devoted years to working as his assistant, but she was recently diagnosed with cancer of the liver and pancreas, and given only weeks to live.

Groves said he was shocked by the couple's deaths but called their decision "typically brave and courageous."

The double suicide is the latest in a series of high-profile cases that have spurred calls for a legal change in Britain, where assisted suicide and euthanasia are banned.

Under British law, assisting a suicide is punishable by up to 14 years in prison. But courts have become reluctant in recent years to convict people. No relative or friend of any of the Britons who have died in Dignitas clinics has been prosecuted.

The Metropolitan Police force said it had been notified of the deaths, and was investigating. Charges are unlikely.

Despite evidence of changing attitudes, parliamentary efforts to change the rules have all been defeated – most recently last week, when Parliament's upper chamber, the House of Lords, voted down an amendment that would have relaxed the prohibition on assisted dying.

Sarah Wootton, chief executive of campaign group Dignity in Dying, said the couple's deaths showed the need to regulate assisted suicide.

"This problem is clearly not going to go away," she said.

"People should be able to make such decisions for themselves, but safeguards are the key," she said.

Peter Saunders, of the anti-euthanasia group Care Not Killing, argued that loosening the law could "put vulnerable people, many of whom already think they are a financial or emotional burden to relatives, carers and the state, under pressure to end their lives through a change in the law."

More than 100 Britons have died in Swiss clinics run by Dignitas since the organization was established in 1998. The organization takes advantage of the country's liberal laws on assisted suicide, which suggest that a person can be prosecuted only if they are acting out of self interest.

Roughly 100 foreigners – most of them terminally ill – come to Switzerland each year to end their lives. Some are healthy except for a disability or severe mental disorder. Typically they go to a room run by Dignitas, which provides them with a lethal drink of barbiturates. In five minutes they fall asleep – and never wake up.

Other countries, including the Netherlands and Belgium, and the states of Oregon and Washington in the United States, allow the incurably sick to obtain help from a doctor to hasten their death.

Only Switzerland, in a law dating back to 1942, permits foreigners to come and kill themselves. Other organizations provide such services for Swiss residents, but Dignitas is the main organization for foreigners.

Critics accuse Dignitas of promoting "suicide tourism."

Dignitas charges 10,000 Swiss francs ($9,200) for its services, which include taking care of legal formalities and arranging consultations with a doctor willing to prescribe the barbiturates.

Edward Downes is one of the most prominent Britons to have traveled to Switzerland because of its open attitude toward the practice.

He was born in 1924 in Birmingham in central England. He studied at Birmingham University, the Royal College of Music and under German conductor Hermann Scherchen.

In 1952, he joined London's Royal Opera House as a junior staffer – his first job was prompting soprano Maria Callas. He made his debut as a conductor with the company the following year and went on to become associate music director. Throughout his life he retained close ties to the Royal Opera, conducting almost 1,000 performances of 49 different operas there over more than 50 years.

He also had a decades-long association with the BBC Philharmonic Orchestra, where he became principal conductor and later conductor emeritus. In the 1970s, he became music director of the Australian Opera, conducting the first performance at the iconic Sydney Opera House in 1973.

Edward and Joan Downes are survived by their children and grandchildren. The family said the couple had no religious beliefs, and there would be no funeral.

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Associated Press Writers Ernst E. Abegg and Alexander G. Higgins contributed to this report from Switzerland.

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It's so great to read about a couple who were so devoted instead of all the people getting divorced, splitting up, or having affairs in Argentina, as the news is saturated with every day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 AM on 07/15/2009
- dmyron I'm a Fan of dmyron 8 fans permalink

The actual question revolves around the notion of the state prohibiting euthenasia. They do not,and will not be allowed, to own me. The necessity of seeking permission, (even for example on the part of a woman seeking a hysterectomy) just makes the state the arbiter of what i will be allowed.NEVER !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 AM on 07/15/2009
- Monrocsol I'm a Fan of Monrocsol 4 fans permalink

I hope I can die in dignity if I choose it. The Unite States is so backward with their pro-life bull crap.

Thank you Dignitas, we could use you here in the USA!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 07/15/2009
- arachne646 I'm a Fan of arachne646 5 fans permalink

Depending on the jurisdiction in the States, it probably varies, but in Canada, it's not illegal to attempt suicide (or maybe it's one of those laws they never prosecute). It's the person who helps you that will be charged if you want death with dignity. The penalties are especially fierce for physicians, or anyone counselling it wholesale, like writing a book, or pamphlet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 PM on 07/15/2009

Nothing is sadder to watch than a person who was so vibrant in his career and in life, to suddenly become incapacitated with illness and blindness. Watching my own father go through this who was a vibrant and prolific sculptor and musician, professor, I know too well, just how hard that is. Watching the mind and body slip away, the talent and life that thier passion gave them is slow torture. Then to watch the love of thier life also slip away, is a pain, no person can fathom, unless you were married to that person for so long. Living and breathing with them, sharing inside jokes only they understood. When I saw this arcticle, I cried. It made me realize how special life is, love is, how we all must take time to appreciate the talents we have and share with the world. We do not know how long we have them, how fast we can lose it all, or how slowly it can be sapped out of us. Life plays cruel jokes on the talented. This couple died the way they chose to live, together. Its scary, romantic, and a lesson for us all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 AM on 07/15/2009
- JoeSchmuk I'm a Fan of JoeSchmuk 14 fans permalink
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"Conductor and wife die in suicide clinic" - Lets work on this header HP. This sounds like they were visiting and slipped on the tiling.

how about - DIRECTOR AND WIFE COMMIT ASSISTED SUICIDE IN CLINIC -

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 AM on 07/15/2009
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I TOTALLY agree...I was shocked when I read the story - it didn't fit the header at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 07/15/2009

I have mixed feelings about this issue. On one hand when a person is in terrible pain and know that there is no cure there should be a way the person can say enough is enough. On the other hand I wonder if I could really do it knowning suicide is against god's law. Saying all that this country would allow an animal to be put to sleep if the animal is in pain. I just don't understand that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 AM on 07/15/2009
- rebopine I'm a Fan of rebopine 2 fans permalink
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Ambiguous headlines (or, maybe it's poorly written ones) seem to be popping up all over Huff post lately. HP, What's up with this disturbing trend?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 07/15/2009
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A very thought provoking article along with a beautiful tribute to the couple. May they rest in peace.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 AM on 07/15/2009
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To all those who cry for "more life", I say this: MORE life does in many cases not correlate with LONGER life.

Read a book instead of watching American Idol and you have more life right there. That's the way to do it, and not the way those poor z0mbies are hanging on tubes until the moment when their frail bodys finally get their way after all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 AM on 07/15/2009
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One day even the most idi0tic Christian will come to realize that this is indeed a very dignified way of dying, unlike those z0mbies hanging on tubes to the last minute of their "life".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 AM on 07/15/2009
- wietog I'm a Fan of wietog 25 fans permalink
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Hear hear.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 AM on 07/15/2009
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Don't you think those hanging in tubes are serving their purpose? It can be an inspiration for a cure, an inspiration to keep on living or what have you. Imagine our loss had Prof Stephen Hawking just ended his ordeal because of the challenges he had to face in his lifetime.

Peace.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 AM on 07/15/2009
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Would you have forced him to live and do his research, even if it had been against his own will? Intriguing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 AM on 07/15/2009

yeh, but it's not about "us" , is it...

their call...not yours....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 AM on 07/15/2009

If Hawking had chosen to end his life I would have accepted it as his choice.

But he did not. It's his choice. It is not mine. Obviously he believed that his discomfitures could be overcome enough to still treasure his life.

There are many people so in pain and so sickly this is not the case.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 AM on 07/15/2009
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Hanging on to tubes and serving the purpose of paying pharmaceutical companies, hospital and medical personnel. The individual should decide if they want to postpone death, for that's all it is. But one should not be condemned to a "life sentence" if the quality of life is so eroded that living equals torture.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 AM on 07/15/2009

Sick. You must live in agony without a redeeming moment, for as long as your torture can be prolonged, because someone thinks maybe you'll be an inspiration. Sick, sick, sick, unalterably sick.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 07/15/2009
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agreed. in general, i don't believe suicide is such a dark idea anyway. i absolutely love my life and accept the struggles, but there is something powerful about someone making a decision to end it if they want to. of course, i am agnostic so that's probably why i think that. as you say, most people are killing themselves slowly by wasting life, so isn't it just better to get on with it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 AM on 07/15/2009
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Being agnostic doesn't equate to being irrational. Give yourself more credit.

Peace.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 07/15/2009
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"Peter Saunders, of the anti-euthanasia group Care Not Killing, argued that loosening the law could "put vulnerable people, many of whom already think they are a financial or emotional burden to relatives, carers and the state, under pressure to end their lives through a change in the law.""

They are a financial or emotional burden to relatives, carers and the state, under pressure to end their lives. But the pressure comes from within themselves. Many ill people feel that they are a financial or emotional burden to relatives and that is why they choose to end their lives. But why shouldn't they have a right to end their lives?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 AM on 07/15/2009

I think that we cannot have this discussion in the US until we have health insurance for all and that coverage is complete for catastrophic illness or injury.

Under today's system I would be offered euthanasia instead of chemo simply because it is the financially "rational" thing to do.
Nope, I won't even entertain debating this until it becomes a true debate of ethics rather than finances.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 AM on 07/15/2009
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You know, this is a great point, one I had not really considered. Sudden medical emergencies or unexpected illness can throw someone into financial ruin unbelievably quickly.

Thank you for this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 AM on 07/15/2009

excellent point....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 AM on 07/15/2009
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I may not agree with their choice, but I respect their right to make that choice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 AM on 07/15/2009
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Well said. If only just ten percent of Americans were as tolerant as you, we'd have virtually no problems.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 AM on 07/15/2009
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I just re-read the article and noticed their children's names: Caractacus and Boudicca.

Anyone who would chose those names would have no qualms whatsoever about boldly entering the next great adventure together.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 AM on 07/15/2009
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lol...my ribs.

Peace.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:21 AM on 07/15/2009
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A beautiful and sad story. Peace to them both and the children they left behind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 AM on 07/15/2009
- XCITIZEN I'm a Fan of XCITIZEN 72 fans permalink
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Shocking as I find this, I have not lived the lives they lived. I am not shocked by assisted suicide, and in fact I support it, but I was initially shocked to find they chose to die together, when one was still in sustainable health. I'm amazed, and their courage is stunning to me. But I still am shocked. Really a surprise. As a kid, I saw the movie Soylent Green, and I vividly remember the euthanasia scenes from the movie. Maybe that is what has caused the cognitive dissonance. People going to a clinic to end their lives together. Wow. I guess it's the ultimate civil liberty - to have the right to choose one's own death.

But still, anyone who is suicidal and who is reading this - please don't end your life. Examine the circumstances, and get help if you need it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 AM on 07/15/2009
- ReelBusy I'm a Fan of ReelBusy 34 fans permalink
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I am against suicide as a personal choice for me.
And I have never "respected" the choice when made by others I have met or known throughout my life.

85 years of age, blind and deaf, facing the imminent pain filled loss of his wife of 54 years.
The context and love involved in their choice here has touched me in a way I had not expected.

I still feel I will not make that choice but will I rethink my personal judgments of those who have.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 AM on 07/15/2009
- psbintl I'm a Fan of psbintl 19 fans permalink
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Beautifully stated!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 AM on 07/15/2009

85 years old, blind, deaf (and a musician his entire life), without his wife - to use the term "sustainable health" is kinda a cruel joke at that point, isn't it? He cannot talk to nor see his grandchildren or children. He cannot interact, cannot communicate. Even his music has been taken away from him.

The body could go on - but with what cost!

I too do not support suicide of a healthy person with any opportunity for a good life. Depression, temporary setbacks - no reason to take a permanent solution to a temporary problem - not to mention the affect it has on all those who know and love you (your friends, your children are more likely to suicide if they've had someone they know do it - and it's a wound they never get over, even if they don't suicide later). But this is not a young person - he's at the end of his life no matter what. This is not someone in decent health - he's blind and cannot hear. In that kind of case - he should get to make the decision.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 07/15/2009

Beautiful life. Dignified death. You can't ask for much more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 AM on 07/15/2009
- MsLiz I'm a Fan of MsLiz 112 fans permalink
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Sure beats leaving a bloody mess for someone to clean up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 AM on 07/15/2009
- gawd I'm a Fan of gawd 14 fans permalink

I hope the end of my life can be this peaceful.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 AM on 07/15/2009
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That, my friend, is why we say our prayers. Since only he who has given us life is the only one that can take it back we can only pray that he give us a graceful exit.

Peace.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 AM on 07/15/2009
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Suicide is one of the many ways God can take us back.

We all live in God and there is nothing outside of God.

So every decision we make, whether it is to embrace life as an atheist, to have a late-term abortion or to end one's own life, it's all within God.

Who are you to say it's not?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 AM on 07/15/2009

and why are you so sure this isn't one of those graceful exits...

men wrote the words in the bible you know....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 AM on 07/15/2009
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Well, clearly we don't have to do as you said and pray that he gives us a graceful exit. Now why does he have to do everything for us? Is he that much of a control freak? These two certainly weren't passive about waiting on him to "take it back". They both handed it over very gently. Some fling it back, or trample all over it and kick it back. You continue praying. Not these two.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 AM on 07/15/2009

My entire childhood was spent listening to this type of wistful and ultimately empty horseblindery.

God wants you to think, act and BE, man.

What God would want his followers to sit around basking in the sunshine of their surety like grazing bovines certain their master is benevolent?

God wants balls, man, not platitudes.

Jesus called for active compassion, for practical solutions to suffering and injustice.

Death with dignity is certainly one of those, despite the cries of horror regarding dogma crossing.

Jesus had no tolerance for dogma.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 07/15/2009
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