Summer Nelson, 28-Year-Old Babysitter, Arrested For Sex With 14-Year-Old Boy (VIDEO)

A 28-year-old woman, Summer Nelson, has been arrested for having sex with a 14-year-old boy who she was babysitting. Nelson claimed to be in love with the teen, and told his siblings that she was "in love" with their brother. She even went so far as to ask the boy's mother for her blessing so they could be "together as a couple."

According to KXLY.com, Sergeant Dave Beck, a detective with the Post Falls Police Department, said,

She'd be holding his hand, she'd have her hands on his side, when they'd sit together she'd have her hand on his knee, they'd sneak away together and she'd put her sole attention on the oldest child, this boy.

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Comments

[sense11]

Niceeeeeeeeeeee!!!

[BackFromParadise]

The reason why most of these posters are saying it isn't abuse isn't because the victim is a boy. It's because the rapist was a woman. If a 28 year old man was having a relationship with a 14 year old boy it would be abuse. Just like when a woman married for 40 years leaves her husband for a woman it's liberating, but if a man leaves his wife after 40 years for a man there needs to be a witchhunt for men on the "down low". Most of these people on this site only care about the interests of women and for the men, they're sexual fantasies. They project their sexual fantasies onto children and use them to justify it. "Lucky kid" indeed.

[JShankel]

Right on.

[jessicadevyn]

Also on this site if a young woman murders her lover or husband in his sleep or while he is in a drunken stupor he deserved it.

[thegreatgiginthesky]

Wonder if she is related to Half Nelson?

[MeTooInCA]

I was 15 when a 28 yr old family friend did the exact same thing to me. I was young, and confused, and I thought I liked it at the time. I was wrong. I was raped. She told me that we were in love, and I believed it. Just because I thought about sex & wanted it, doesn't mean I was ready for it, especially not with an older woman that was pushing it on me.

Believe it or don't, but I was raped. It's a scar that still hurts me to this day.

[PAposter]

I would suggest anyone that has gone through this experience boy or girl, will have issues dealing with it later, whether they attribute their later problems to this experience of not. As you stated wanting it and understanding it are two completely different things. Again, this is why children have adults around them, to help them think about and understand such decisions. Adults are in no way teaching our kids about love and intimacy when they violate their trust.

[brainpower]

Well put

[Yank in France]

Excuse me, but you are confusing ill-advised sex with an older woman and rape, which is forced sex against your will, often accompanied by extreme violence or at least threats of extreme violence. My first sexual experience was with my babysitter, and I loved it...until her family moved out of the neighborhood. She definitely controlled the relationship and maybe that twisted my views on relationships, but people ended up with twisted views one way or the other anyway.
You need to get over your self-pity; beyond being ridiculous, it is self-destructive in the extreme.

[Josee123]

Actually this is not true. Rape is non-consensual sex. Thus if a person is unable to give her consent, whether there was violence or not, it's considered forced sex and rape.

If an adult is so drunk and wasted that she doesn't really understand what's going on and you have sex with her/him and the next morning he/she accuses you of having raped her, you'll go to jail.

If a child is deemed unable to consent, and you have sex with him/her, you will be accused of rape, whether the child seemed "willing or not".

[PAposter]

"She definitely controlled the relationship and maybe that twisted my views on relationships..."

Enough said!

[MeTooInCA]

@Yank in France - Wow. Interesting comment. I won't spill all the details of my personal life here, but I assure you, the professional therapists that I've seen agree on what it was. Rape. I didn't know what I was doing; I was immature and inexperienced. I didn't understand sex or what it meant. How could I have given my consent?

Also, I'm not talking about someone that was close to my own age (based on your comment about your babysitter's family moving away, it makes her seem closer to your age at the time). It wasn't an experiment or youthful indiscretion. I was preyed upon by an adult woman. I was manipulated and used.

"You need to get over your self-pity; beyond being ridiculous, it is self-destructive in the extreme." - Incredible statement about someone you've never met. All I did was state the most basic facts about what happened in my life, mainly to tell all the posters that think this kid is the luckiest boy around that sex at a young age is not always as glorious as we believe it to be.

[jdiary]

No, I think you're the one who doesn't understand the difference. That is not the legal definition of rape. Violence is not always involved. Secondly, statutory rape just means that a minor is involved - because minors cannot consent. Even if you don't think it's rape, the law does. This is why she was arrested. Whether the boy thinks he enjoyed it or not.

[SparkyAdams]

Lucky little guy!

Case closed!~

[EndRacismNow]

Yeah I wish I had a hot 28 year old babysitter when I was 14 but that is my way of thinking now as an adult male rather than an adolescent. Not sure if it is as bad as when the victim is a girl.

[AhnAmuru]

Whoaah!

Dude, are you just lucky, or what!

[PatA]

For the people who talk about older relatives who married at very young ages, there was very likely a reason for that. People didn't live as long in the early 1900s. Men and women died at around 50. ( I had several aunts and uncles die "young").....They did marry younger due to that fact. And girls back then had probably been chopping cotton, taking care of their younger siblings and doing everything there was to do to keep a house. They didn't hang out at the mall, buying clothes and looking for guys. Those kids back then were "grown" alot younger than kids are today.
I work in a library and I can tell you this...I haven't seen one 14 year old, boy or girl, that I would say was at the age of consent and knowledge......

[jessicadevyn]

Exactly! And in the past you pretty much had all the skills you would need to survive by the time you were 10-14 years old. They were adults in every sense of the word. They were not pop music listening, video game playing, snot nosed kids.

[rlugbill]

A minor can't legally consent. So, consent is not a defense. This woman obviously has psychological issues and our society's way of addressing it is to put her in prison for the rest of her life and label her a sex offender. Because of equal protection issues, you can't treat women offenders differently from male offenders.

The psychologist who is interviewed here is also misquoting the research on recidivism and sex offenders. The recidivism rate with sex offenders is actually lower than for other types of offenders. See this link for some info.:

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/press/rsorp94pr.htm

Many of the counselors who work with sex offenders have their own psychological issues, and make it extremely hard for people to get effective treatment. The counselors' own psychological issues interfere with their ability to deliver effective treatment for their clients. Furthermore, because of mandatory reporting laws, you can't just go to a counselor and ask for treatment, because they will require you to admit to it to get treatment and then they are legally required to report it to the authorities.

While I don't think this sort of behavior should be legalized, the penalties should be less severe and treatment should be part of the disposition. But, with the public hysteria over sex offenders, this is unlikely to happen. So, this woman will likely be locked up for a very long time.

[FaceReality2]

"A minor can't legally consent."

A lot of people on this board confuse the age of majority with the age of consent.

The age at which people are deemed to have the capacity to decide whether or not they wish to have sex has, until recently, been much lower than the age at which people are deemed to have the capacity to enter into binding contracts or to vote intelligently.

The push to raise the age of consent to the age of majority has been a very recent phenomenon. A few southern states still place the age of consent closer to what it has been historically, 13 to 14. Does the push to merge the two reflect that we think young people today are less capable of making this decision than they were 100 years ago?

Massachusetts law in 1875 reflected the Common Law age of consent:

"The statute book of Massachusetts makes ten years the age at which a female child is supposed to have discretion enough to part with virtue."

Noted by Lysander Spooner in 1875:

http://www.lysanderspooner.org/bib_new.htm

[madfigs]

And owning slaves used to be legal, so was beating your wife.

Just because it used to be a certain way, doesn't mean it was right.

[BLBass]

I'll repeat that it's absolutely not obvious whether there are any psychological "issues" in this case. Of course it's a possibility, but taking the fact of a relationship with a boy of 14 as the only evidence to reach that conclusion is irresponsible.

You're right that women and men should be treated equally in these matters. The larger problem is that in both cases, the assumption is that the child -- really an adolescent and despite most parents' wishes no longer wholly a child -- cannot have made a valid decision. Probably there is no political will to lower the age of legal consent, and it probably wouldn't be a great idea either. But the young man's (in this instance) consent should still bear some consideration; currently it is almost completely discounted.

[rlugbill]

Yes, the age of consent does vary from state to state- it's not 18 in most places. We have various ages for various legal matters. You can't buy a car legally until you are 18 because the contract isn't legally binding, for example. But, you can be treated as a criminal at a much younger age, depending on the state. The various laws and ages don't make much sense.

I don't know of any state where 14 is considered to be the age of consent now for sex, but there are some states where exceptions are made for younger offenders so that high school dating situations are not considered to be sex offenses. But I think legally there could be no consent in this case because of the age of the victim-14 and the age of the offender- 28.

There could be some sort of middle ground where children in a certain age bracket- say 13 to 16 could be presumed to have not consented but the presumption could be overcome by evidence to the contrary. Or just not to have prosecutions at such ages unless the victim agrees to the prosecution.

You don't think there is something wrong with her psychologically? Pedophilia is a recognized psychological disorder. Help me understand why you think she does not have this disorder.

[alexis d]

Agree totally. People jump to conclusions about how there must be "psychological issues."

1. We don't know anything about the details of the relationship, but I for one, admire the woman's courage in speaking to the mother directly about it. I think that shows openness and sincerity.

2. Sure, there are probably ways she and the 14 year old are a bit off-center about the relationship, but that's no different than when it's two people of the same age cohort. One of the great things about relationships that include sex is that they teach us a lot about emotional stability. Sometimes that process is messy, but I'd argue physical intimacy is a net force for good in that process, not a force for evil.

[CigarGod]

Very common for girls to fall in love with teachers.
Same with boys.

Can't tell me it isn't a common fantasy of both.

[thefooligan5]

I agree but I wouldn't be surprised to hear that more often boys fall in LUST with their teachers.

[BLBass]

I would be surprised to hear that. I think they might have more potential to ACT on that lust, though.

Women? What were you fantasizing about at 14? A 16-year old with a car, or some handsome teacher? I suspect CigarGod is right.

[jessicadevyn]

I had plenty of "crushes" on my teachers and camp conselours between the ages of 12-14.

It certainly wasn't "falling in love".

[Gudrun]

Or wanting to do the deed with them, yuck!

[FantasticFourFan]

Typical Red-State "values"!

[kasule]

dont be a stereo type man...... is that why ur a fan of that stupid kiddish movie, fantastic four??

[hidenout]

lol

[FantasticFourFan]

Actually I never saw the movie but conservatives stereotype us all the time, it's time they got a taste of their own medicine. Red states have highter divorce rates nad out of wedlock birth rates then blue states.

[thegreatgiginthesky]

Oddly enough any time this kind of stuff happens (see other cases where teachers have slept with students) it always ends up being in some southern state. Must be something in the water.

[PAposter]

It's definitely a cultural difference i cannot identify with.

[mama1974]

Before I read all these posts I was unaware that the end all, be all of the male existence was being raped as a child. I believe that sex with kids is a bad thing and I hope these "men" are childless.

[Josee123]

I know... I still can't believe we can't go pass the "for men/boys, the more sex the better". It seems we haven't learned how damaging that "role model" is.

[Soundofthunder]

Ra p ed? Yes, willing having sex with an older woman is tantamount to r a pe, just as willing sliding down a water slide is being drowned. Fourteen year old girls don't have the impulses that boys the same age do, a fact that some people cannot deal with or simply forget when they get older. It's called human biology, and all the artificial lines drawn in the sand (fourteen is a kid, eighteen is a man) don't make it go away.

SOT

[mama1974]

So everything we know about girls maturing faster is a lie? The rape = a ride on a water slide doesn't address the issue of this woman being an authority figure. But I suppose the whole "thinking with the other head is what men are all about" theory doesn't lend itself to details.

[PAposter]

Please, to suggest 14 yr old girls don't have the same impulses as boys, shows just how naive you are. Which me disregard your opinion completely.

BTW, I wonder how 11, 12 ,13, 14 yr old girls get pregnant?

[PAposter]

I agree...and I hope they don't have access to children.

[PAposter]

I cannot imagine that the authors of these comments are parents of young teenagers.

If a 28 yr old slept with my son when he was 14 yrs old, I would be the one going to jail for @ssaulting that b!tch. It's insane to think that 14 yr boy has the capacity to realize the long-term affects of such an inappropriate relationship.

Someone on an earlier comment offered Ricard Pryor as an example of a man who had been with an older woman when he was a young teenager. I would suggest he is a perfect example of how troubling life can be later in life...and I would also argue that the one suffering would never look back to this experience as the origin of the problem.

[Economike]

I had a 23 year old girl friend when I was 16 and I wouldn't take it back for anything. It's one of my fondest memories.

[DawnLA]

Girlfriend. Not a person in position of power abusing their power.

[thefooligan5]

Oh c'mon. First of all, it is absurd for either side to use one person as a proof of their point of view. But you're looking at the siuation from the point of view of a parent, which albeit is not incorrect but completely neglects to determine the boys position. I'm not sure what sort of boy you were but I can assure you there are plenty of boys who are very much dreaming of this very scenario playing out in real life. Most boys I knew were very sexually studied before they even hit 12 years old thanks to porno and older siblings and the like. At 14, sex was constantly on the minds of many, many boys. Some were having it, others were dreaming about having it and quite often those dreams involved a very hot teacher or a friend's mom or some other older, fully developed woman. So yes, as a father you would have been in your rights to be upset, but that doesn't not mean the 14 year old would have wanted you to come to his defense after all he may have just had one of the greatest experiences of his life until you had to go all 'agro,' as the kids say, on the situation.

[PAposter]

First of all I'm a mother...secondly I understand how young people think, that's why there are responsible adults in their lives, to ensure their safety and guide them appropriately.

However, I'm sure none of this means anything to you, if you find it appropriate for such young people to be having s e x. Is there no wonder so many teenagers get pregnant...they simply do not have the capacity to think things through and consider the ramifications of their actions...and no mature adults to help them consider/reconsider before acting.

[Josee123]

Well... my husband "dreamt" about being super man when he was a kid... he dreamt about it so much that he jumped off the balcony and got hurt.

Just because children "dream" of certain things (helped by the oversexualized media), it doesn't make it right, nor does it mean that it's good for them.

I'm sorry but in 99.9% of the cases, having sex at 14, whether the kid "dreams about it" or not, does not make it right. A 14 year old cannot realize the consequences of unsafe sex, the traumatizing experience of an unwanted pregnancy and its consequences, etc, etc.

And that babysitter should know better than try to have sex with a child who obviously cannot give his consent in the same way a fellow adult would.

[jessicadevyn]

Yes, sex is on the minds of many kids but that doesn't mean that they are ready for sex, in particular, with someone much older and in authority than they are.

Lil Wayne admitted on the Jimmy Kimmel show that when he was 11 years old he lost his virginity to his 14 year old babysitter. He admitted the experience was very damaging to him but Kimmel couldn't admit it.

[sallythewerewolf]

Really! And if she has a baby by him, he and his family are stuck with crazy Li'l Miss Aqualung the rest of their lives. Wonderful. I'd ask anyone who says it's "no big deal" to imagine being stuck with her in one way or another. And then there's VD...

[Josee123]

I don't know why but I have a hard time wrapping this thing around my head.
And when I think about this issue, I realize how so many biases and societal constructs come into play.

For e.g. I see people heresaying "it's not such a big deal", "the boy was capable of consenting", or "woo hoo I want a baby sitter like that".

Now imagine that instead of being a FEMALE baby sitter, it was a MALE baby sitter who did this to the boy (and try to take all religious ideas aside). Would people be saying the same thing?

I feel that if a 28 year old MALE babysitter had sex with a 14 year old boy, I would automatically say "abuse!". However, in this case, I think... "did the boy have the capacity of consent", and I don't jump automatically into the "abuse" wagon. Now... why is that? If someone's deemed to have the capacity to consent, then it doens't matter if the person is having sex with another male or with a female. However, it makes a difference in my own "gut feeling" and I can't pinpoint exactly why. The same way that if it was the other way around (a MALE baby sitter having sex with a 14 year old girl) I would immediately say "abuse!".

I think there need to be a lot of discussion and research done on what does "consent mean", when is "consent achieved", and when is someone capable of consenting.

[PAposter]

In all three instances I have a problem with the 14 yr old having the same capacity as the 28 yr old when it comes to consent...most 14 yr olds can be convinced of anything, and most 28 yr olds are aware of that.

I am outraged that anyone thinks it's okay for me to leave my child with an adult I trust, only to find that this adult has convinced or allowed my child to engage in !ntercourse. It would be devastating to say the least.

[BLBass]

I agree it's not ok for a trusted adult to convince a child to have sex. To allow it -- presumably from a standpoint of mutual affection -- is another matter entirely. Your reaction has more to do with a view of sex as a dangerous thing, from which we (and especially our children) need protection, than with honestly assessing the potential situation. I don't say this is a conscious viewpoint of yours, nor if you do that it's wrong for you to hold it. I do say it's inappropriate for you to impose that view on your child without discussing his/her thoughts on the topic. Certainly by the age of 14 that conversation should at least have begun!

[thefooligan5]

No, people would not be answering the same because instead of asking "What is 2+2?" you are asking, "What is 2x2?" - in other words, two completely different questions which many people, such as yourself, try to blur into one. Double standards exist and always will because truths are not so easily thrust upon a varied group of people let alone opposite sexes. Yes, the book of law will always do so and try to find some concensus or compromise on which to enact a law, but speaking outside of the law, two different scnarios require to be studied differently and judged accordingly.

[PAposter]

What's different about any of the scenarios offered?

[Josee123]

Why is it so different?

If someone has capacity to consent, then it's capacity to consent, whether the consent involves men or women. If there are some kind of double standards, then we should recognize them and realize that are not based on sound reasoning and just leave them aside.

[BLBass]

I think even if you took away the age difference or any other power imbalance most people would feel similarly conflicted, because they would agree instinctively but realize the inherent injustice of the "gut" feeling that men = bad, women = good. (I'm saying that your inner conflict is a good sign! It's a problem with no easy answer and to be breezily certain about it would be stupid.) Those immediate reactions of "it must be abuse" you mention are symptomatic of socially ingrained bad attitudes toward sex and/or men.

This last is a deeper problem in our society, not simply in cases of potential sexual abuse. Many divorce proceedings, for example, unfairly restrict or eliminate fathers' access to their kids because of prejudice about the sexes' behavior and values.

And I do hope nobody tries to use this point to suggest I'm some chauvinist nut. That would be disingenuous and oversimplifying a complex issue.

[DavidGetsInvolved]

My aunt and uncle had over 50 years of a very happy marriage with the same 14 year difference in age. (she was older) ....I think the issue obviously is the fact that the "male" is 14 years old. ...in 2 years, he'd be legal age of consent in many parts of the world...my uncle was 16 when he married a woman 14 years older...and it never seemed to be an issue. Two of the nicest people you'd ever meet.

Not saying right or wrong...just talking about real love.

[thefooligan5]

so is sex without love to be disparaged?

[DavidGetsInvolved]

No.

Like I said, not syaing right or wrong. Just giving my one personal experience with this issue.

:)

[JonShank]

NO!!!!

[jessicadevyn]

Societal expectations were very different 50+ years ago as well as what happens in other cultures around the world today.

The age of consent in many parts of the world and in the past was the age you consented to MARRY. It is/was considered a life long commitment. The wife would be taken care of for the rest of her life and so would the children. My grandfather also got married when he was 16 but he was clearly a MAN in actions and deeds. This is a lot different compared to the USA in the 21st century where marriage is seen as something easily disposed of if you don't like it and hook ups are common.

Mind you, I am not against hooking up. But you can't compare our current views of sex and marriage to those in the past.

[thefooligan5]

I'll grant you the fact that views on marriage can change over the course of a generation because that is a human construct, but I'm not going to grant you the same leeway with sex because sexual drive is purely biological and not matter how society views sexual intercourse, those same desires which thrust through a 14 year old today were likely very similar to the desires of a 14 year old 50 years ago; 100 years ago; 1000 years ago.

[FaceReality2]

"the woman IS an adult, and should know better than to have sex with a minor."

The age of majority and the age of consent are, historically, two different things. The age at which people are deemed to have the capacity to decide whether or not they wish to have sex has, until recently, been much lower than, say, the age at which people are deemed to have the capacity to enter into contracts or to vote intelligently.

The push to raise the age of consent to the age of majority has been a very recent phenomenon. A few southern states still place the age of consent closer to what it has been historically, 13 to 14. Does the push to merge the two reflect that we think young people today are less capable of making this decision than they were 100 years ago?