Dodd: A Good Health Care Bill More Important Than A Bipartisan One

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First Posted: 07-15-09 10:17 AM   |   Updated: 08-15-09 05:12 AM

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The Senate Health Education Labor and Pensions Committee approved a historic overhaul of the health care system on a party-line vote Wednesday morning. The firm push leaves the Senate Finance Committee as the remaining obstacle to reform.

The House is also moving swiftly to overhaul the system. The three committees involved -- Ways and Means, Energy and Commerce and Education and Labor -- jointly released text of a far-reaching bill Tuesday that would cover some 97 percent of Americans and a cost of slightly more than a trillion dollars over ten years, paid for largely by a tax hike on the very wealthy.

The Senate health committee and the House committees have been able to move forward because they have not insisted on bipartisanship support for their efforts. Democrats alone can move a bill through the House and, with Al Franken making the 60th senator, through the Senate also without Republican assistance.

"There's a lot of pressure on the Finance Committee to get something done," said Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.).

What does the bill's passage say to the Finance Committee?

"It says, 'Welcome. Come and join us,'" Dodd told the Huffington Post after the vote.

Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) has been working closely with panel Republicans, who have refused to compromise on key issues. He has been reluctant to move forward without them.

Top Obama aides suggested Tuesday, however, that if Republicans didn't want to be part of health care reform, the president was okay doing it with Democrats alone.

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While Senate Republicans voted against the bill in committee, it was not passed without their input. Dodd noted after the vote that 161 GOP amendments were accepted, "many of them substantial."

He cited contributions from Sens. Judd Gregg (R-N.H.), Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) and Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) on issues related to long-term care solvency, biologics and small business coverage, respectively.

"Even though it wasn't a bipartisan vote, it was a bipartisan effort," said Dodd. "There were numerous contributions made, not just technical amendments, that our Republican friends were able to add to the bill. And they made it a better bill. That's the way it's supposed to be and I regret they didn't feel it was significant enough to support our effort this time around."

But he was going forward without them, he insisted. "I still believe, as my colleagues do as well, that we can achieve that bipartisanship, but the important issue is a good bill. Getting a bipartisan bill that doesn't do anything for the people out there who are depending upon it, is not going to be warmly received. A good bill that is bipartisan obviously has a chance of not only succeeding but also being sustained, so there's a value in achieving that bipartisanship," he said.

But not at the expense of a good bill. "I will not sacrifice a good bill for that. That's not the goal here," Dodd said.

Asked if health care reform needed GOP votes to pass, Dodd pointed out the recent reality that shifts the debate. "We have 60 votes," he said.

Sen. Barbara Mikulski (D-Md.), a senior member of the health committee, said the decision is now in the hands of the GOP and others who stand in the way of the bill's progress.

"It's a question of whose side are you on? We stand on the side of history," she said.

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The Senate Health Education Labor and Pensions Committee approved a historic overhaul of the health care system on a party-line vote Wednesday morning. The firm push leaves the Senate Finance Committe...
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- mtracy9 I'm a Fan of mtracy9 209 fans permalink

Even right- wing Israel has a single payer health care system that insures everyone. Our corporate media, however, being the sl aves that they are to veste d corporate interests, never points this out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 AM on 07/16/2009
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Recently read an article about medical costs in Japan ( source?). They capped MRI cost at $93 which was so low that someone actually invented a low cost MRI machine that is so practical that many doctors are now getting the equipment in there offices!

Seems to me that Obama should set up a study group which examines pros/cons of various health systems throughout the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 07/15/2009
- mtracy9 I'm a Fan of mtracy9 209 fans permalink

Even right- wing Israel has a single payer health care system that insures everyone. Our corporate media, however, being the sl aves that they are to veste d corporate interests, never points this out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 AM on 07/16/2009
- IDIOTA I'm a Fan of IDIOTA 57 fans permalink

Dodd is a grownup.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 PM on 07/15/2009
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Agreed. Pretty rare in Washington.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 AM on 07/16/2009
- Bardmess I'm a Fan of Bardmess 13 fans permalink

Until Americans elect Senators that represent them and not the health insurance industry(and accomplices) we will not have meaningful reform.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 07/15/2009
- dandypuddin I'm a Fan of dandypuddin 179 fans permalink
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“In seven states, ranging from Washington to Minnesota to Maine, they have tried what amounts to a mixture of a private and a public plan. And in none of the states has there been any sustained reduction in the number of uninsured. It's way too expensive. As long as you have private plans in there, everybody still has to do all the bookkeeping and everything. So, it has failed. As Einstein said, ‘The definition of insanity is doing something over and over again, and expecting to have a different result.’ We've seen the same unsatisfactory, unacceptable result, in state after state after state after state after state, why mess up the whole country with it?”

Dr. Sidney Wolfe, an advocate of Single Payer Health Care

This bill will not solve our health care crisis.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 PM on 07/15/2009
- Weirdwriter I'm a Fan of Weirdwriter 332 fans permalink
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Neither will Dr.Wolfe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 07/15/2009
- MrBadger I'm a Fan of MrBadger 13 fans permalink

Who's that other 3% that's not covered? Why don't I hear anyone talking about that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 07/15/2009
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Palestiniens :-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 AM on 07/16/2009
- Lorianne I'm a Fan of Lorianne 60 fans permalink
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Under current proposals being bandied about, Insurance Companies would act as government contractors (much like Haliburton, Bechtel, Dyncorp .. to defense ) to provide the so-called 'public option' plans. It's kind of like having for-profit developers also pay for a certain % of 'affordable housing'.

The cost dif will go to the full-fare customers ... for a while ... until they drop out and then the Gov contractor insurance companies will keep raising the 'public' rates and lowering coverage ... just like they do now on private plans. All they have to do to get rate hikes and cover less is lobby Congress (just like they are doing now).

So, as far as I can tell, the so-called 'public option' is just going to be funneling taxpayer money into insurance companies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 07/15/2009
- Mugzi I'm a Fan of Mugzi 13 fans permalink

Then, how does THAT help the econom?????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 PM on 07/15/2009
- tnkeating I'm a Fan of tnkeating 21 fans permalink
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If it comes from Chris Dodd, its got to be crooked as hell, this is how Al Capone did things. Oh well just wait to next election boys and girls, you'll be out of a job to.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 07/15/2009
- balthus I'm a Fan of balthus 14 fans permalink

Then again, I probably will still be able to correctly spell.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 AM on 07/16/2009
- condew I'm a Fan of condew 9 fans permalink

Dodd noted after the vote that 161 GOP amendments were accepted ...

Each of those 161 amendments should be recinded in followup legislation if the GOPer who sponsored the amendment does not vote for the final bill. Don't let them water down the legislation and still vote against it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 07/15/2009
- MikaS I'm a Fan of MikaS 335 fans permalink
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I agree.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:03 PM on 07/15/2009
- BlueOnBlue I'm a Fan of BlueOnBlue 65 fans permalink
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You don't quite get it. The Democrats like Dodd, who are in the pockets of the health care industries, didn't want a good consumer-oriented bill. By allowing the Republican amendments (for things like a big firewall around the public option), they give the industries what they want while passing a bill they can claim is "reform."

The big change here is that more people will be buying private health insurance, much of it at government/taxpayer expense.

We needed single payer. We were willing to settle for a robust public option. What we're getting is a con job.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 07/15/2009
- ljc I'm a Fan of ljc 110 fans permalink

Once again, women will be treated as irrelevent. A provision to ban coverage on abortion in the public plan is blackmail. This will force any woman who wants that option to stay with the private, for profit, high premium insurance. Blah, Blah, Blah, no public funds for abortion. Also, why is there a provision to exempt Congress from this plan? I thought we were going to be offered the same level of coverage they have. This is starting to smell.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 07/15/2009
- condew I'm a Fan of condew 9 fans permalink

So if you don't get your free abortions, nobody is supposed to get decent health care?

Self-centered much?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 PM on 07/15/2009
- Weirdwriter I'm a Fan of Weirdwriter 332 fans permalink
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Nobody is getting any free services with a public option plan, pal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 07/15/2009
- Lorianne I'm a Fan of Lorianne 60 fans permalink
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That wouldn't make sense. The deductible would be more than the cost of an abortion.
She's be better off financially with the public plan and pay for the abortion out of pocket

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 07/15/2009
- dxz I'm a Fan of dxz 6 fans permalink

Including non-urgent abortions will be controversial, and even for a pro-choice like me, I don't believe it is acceptable to allow the whole process to be derailed just because of this. Non-urgent pregnancy terminations should be borne by individuals and not the public. This has nothing to do with women being treated as irrelevant. By the way, I don't believe that Viagra, Cialis should be covered as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 PM on 07/15/2009
- balthus I'm a Fan of balthus 14 fans permalink

So what if it's "controversial"? I thought the Democrats won the election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 AM on 07/16/2009

Do we have any of the 30,000 Legal Immigrants on here today that are about to lose their healthcare because Massachusetts has a budget problem??

NYT: Massachusetts Takes a Step Back From Health Care for All

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 PM on 07/15/2009
- dandypuddin I'm a Fan of dandypuddin 179 fans permalink
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No, but I'm sure we have some of the 44,000 Americans (legal citizens) who lose their health care every week now.

Picture a small town. Now picture every one of them losing their health care every week.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 07/15/2009

When I picture this... should i picture them losing their health care from the government?

Or should I imagine them, under the proposed bill, now having to... by law... pay for their health care on their own... minus medicare, medicaid, ER rooms etc...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:58 PM on 07/15/2009
- flossophy I'm a Fan of flossophy 335 fans permalink
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flossophy

Budding Pr0gressiv­es... the Democrats are in the f|ght of their lives... if they can't institute this massive government bureaucracy, then they may be on the way out for good. If they can't get people to be dependent on government for their primal needs, then their usefulness will decline in the years ahead.

We must save this endangered 0|igarchy.­.. one of the last statist 0|igarchies remaining from the 20th century in the western hemisphere. Their grip is loosening on their serf-constituents in the inner city slums across the country. People are beginning to realize that they don't need a distant permanent political class making decisions on poorly conceived policies which do more harm than good. Blacks are realizing that after 45 years of loyal support, their standard of living and quality of life has not improved in step with economic growth. Something is amiss.

This is the last f|ght to remain relevant..­. Dependency Now!

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Steve Magruder

It's not about dependency, it's about regularity and a boon for entrepreneurial behavior. If nobody has to worry about their health care coverage, a lot of great things will become possible in the American economy and culture.

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flossophy

Then why don't we see entrepreneurial behavior in W. Europe or anywhere else around the world which has s0cialized systems?

America is by far the most entrepreneurial society in history... perhaps there's a reason for this. Perhaps it's because we have not mortgaged all of our primal needs to the State.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 07/15/2009
- Dale Larson I'm a Fan of Dale Larson 208 fans permalink
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"Then why don't we see entrepreneurial behavior in W. Europe or anywhere else around the world which has s0cialized systems?"

Wow... That's a big statement. A whole lot of technology companies are in Europe. And a whole lot of American companies are owned by European companies.

"America is by far the most entrepreneurial society in history... perhaps there's a reason for this. "

America will be much more entrepreneurial when health care cost is taken off the books of businesses. I'm sure there are thousands of new business ideas that never get launched because small businesses can't recruit talent or the potential founders can't accept the financial risk of not being insured. Hence they stay captive in the large corporations. Europeans have no such limitations.

The Insurance companies have had their "entrepreneurial" run and now they just screw the customer because they are the only game in town. Their time has past.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 07/15/2009
- dandypuddin I'm a Fan of dandypuddin 179 fans permalink
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amen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 07/15/2009
- flossophy I'm a Fan of flossophy 335 fans permalink
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There are a whole lot of technology companies in Europe... but how many of them are as big as American companies?

America creates and exports 85% of the advanced medical technology in the world. Europe's s0cialized health care systems benefit from our technological advancemen­ts... in the same way the USPS benefits from technological advancements spearheaded by UPS & FedEx.

If you turn our health care system into a Euro-s0cialized system, you will stifle the dynamic technology sector, which will slow humanity's ability to conquer the i||s that p|ague this planet.

The government controls close to 50% of the health care industry, and heavily regulates the rest. It's been this way for many decades. It is primarily government intervention which has brought us to this decrepit system. If people had more individual choice, that would improve quality and bring costs down. This doesn't happen in a government-run system because the incentives run the wrong way:

Government systems focus on rationing, while competitive systems focus on improving quality and reducing cost.

Imagine a government system as one giant health care corporatio­n... which doesn't have to compete with anyone... and needs to figure out ways to ration services..­. who gets what treatment and who doesn't... this is called a monopoly.

Monopolies are bad for humanity wherever they are found.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 AM on 07/16/2009
- balthus I'm a Fan of balthus 14 fans permalink

Why do polls consistently show that people in many European countries are happier than Americans?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 AM on 07/16/2009
- flossophy I'm a Fan of flossophy 335 fans permalink
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Well... Our military is essentially subsidizing their s0cialized systems. European countries do not have to spend 20-25% of their GDP on a military because we have treaties to protect them. Instead they spend all that money on their cradle-to-grave welfare system. Wouldn't you be 'happier' too if you had all of your primal needs handled by the State?

Let me reduce this a bit... Europe is in a permanent state of adolescence as a society. They do not need/want to do any of the heavy lifting around the world, so that responsibility falls to the Americans.

Europe's bloated s0cialized systems are unaffordable and unsustainable (including environmen­tally)... They will need to look more like America (pre-Obama) than we need to look like them.

Just because you're dependent on the State for your primal needs, doesn't necessarily mean you're happy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 AM on 07/16/2009
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All the gun manufacturing companies in America are owned by Europeans.

Is that an entrepreneurial system you can relate too?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 AM on 07/16/2009
- theone718 I'm a Fan of theone718 23 fans permalink
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Max "the joke" Baucus is last in the race......­...again. The heat is up now folks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 PM on 07/15/2009
- PaxEterna I'm a Fan of PaxEterna 67 fans permalink

What is a good bill, Mr. Dodd?

I suggest your goal is all backwards.

We need a good health care system for the American people, like SINGLE PAYER.

That should be the premise of of any bill, not one that is 1000+ pages long and full of gobbedly-gook that even a bright person can't understand.

Notice the insurance cos are not balking at what came out the House ...

because they see all the uninsured MANDATED their way.

It's a bill that mandates INSURANCE, but does not provide quality, affordable, health care equally for all Americans.

Plus, it continues to burden employers with the cost.

Don't they get it that this is killing American competitiveness?

SINGLE PAYER.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 PM on 07/15/2009
- Weirdwriter I'm a Fan of Weirdwriter 332 fans permalink
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Congress will not pass Single Payer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 07/15/2009
- jazzman I'm a Fan of jazzman 234 fans permalink
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Definition: Bi-Partisan Bill - A bill that ensures that the Health Insurance Industry stays totally in control of health care while killing any significant reform.

Who uses the term bi-partisan? Max Baucus and other blue dogs to cover their collective asses when they produce a watered down mess of a bill without a public option that is more expensive than any of his counterpart's bills and keeps the status quo.

Excuse making: "It was the best I could do and still have a bi-partisan bill.

Number of people watching what is going on who are fooled by this tactic: 0

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 07/15/2009
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