US, China Announce Clean Energy Research Center

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JOE McDONALD | 07/15/09 07:10 AM | AP

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U.S. Secretary of Commerce Gary Locke, center, chats with Chinese officers as he visit a turbine inside the China Resources Golden Concord-Co-generation Plant at the Beijing Development Area in Beijing, Wednesday, July 15, 2009. The United States and China both need to cut their carbon emissions and have to start cooperating on science and technology to battle climate change, U.S. Energy Secretary Steven Chu said Wednesday. (AP Photo/Andy Wong)

BEIJING — The United States and China, the world's biggest greenhouse gas emitters, announced plans for a joint clean energy research center Wednesday as the American commerce secretary appealed to Beijing to avoid imposing trade barriers on green technology.

The research center is an effort at compromise between the two governments, which disagree on whether China should join richer nations in adopting binding emissions-reduction targets to stave off environmental devastation from climate change.

With initial financing of $15 million and headquarters in both countries, the center will focus on coal and clean buildings and vehicles, said U.S. Energy Secretary Steven Chu. It highlights potential U.S.-Chinese cooperation in an industry that Washington says could create thousands of jobs.

"I know we can accomplish more by working together than by working alone," Chu said after meeting with Chinese Science and Technology Minister Wan Gang in the Great Hall of the People in central Beijing.

Chu and Commerce Secretary Gary Locke were in Beijing to lobby China to promote private-sector development of solar, wind, biofuels and other clean energy.

Locke appealed to China to avoid trade barriers to clean technology. Some companies say Beijing is trying to build up its industry by shielding companies from competition, shutting foreign competitors out of wind power and other projects.

"We need to empower U.S. and Chinese entrepreneurs and innovators to create and collaborate free from artificial trade barriers," Locke said in a speech to an audience of American businesspeople.

President Barack Obama sees the development of cleaner energy as a source of growth and jobs for the struggling U.S. economy. His stimulus package includes billions of dollars for alternative energy research.

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China is promoting solar, wind and hydroelectric power to reduce reliance on imported oil and gas, which its communist leaders see as a strategic weakness. But Beijing has rejected binding emissions commitments, saying it is the responsibility of rich countries to cut their own output.

Locke acknowledged such sentiments but said the environment does not care where the gases came from.

"Fifty years from now, we do not want the international community to lay the blame at the feet of China," he said.

Locke and Chu, both descendants of Chinese immigrants, were meeting with Chinese ministers in charge of trade, technology, health and other areas.

Most scientists agree that even a slight increase in global temperatures will wreak havoc as seasons shift, crops fail and storms and droughts ravage fields.

Earlier Wednesday, Chu called for developing countries to adopt emissions-reduction targets.

If China fails to use more renewable sources, the "amount of carbon China emits in the next 30 years will equal all the carbon the U.S. has emitted in the life of the country," Chu said in a speech to students at Beijing's Tsinghua University.

"We are all in this together so we have to fix it together," he said.

Chu, a Nobel laureate in physics, said that while the United States and other developed nations were the first to emit greenhouse gases, developing economies are fast catching up.

"Unless they also say, 'We need to decrease our carbon emissions by mid-century,' then the world will be in big trouble," Chu said. "What the U.S. and China do in the coming decades will in a large part determine the fate of the world."

Beijing opposes proposed U.S. legislation that would impose tariffs on countries that do nothing to cut emissions.

"Our main concern is that the implementation of this policy will harm the interests of developing countries," a Commerce Ministry spokesman, Yao Jian, said Wednesday.

Yao said Beijing sees protectionist motives behind the bill and warned that it might trigger retaliation by developing countries.

"This will not be good for tackling the current financial crisis together," he said.

Also Wednesday, Locke urged China to help revive world growth by opening its markets further and easing currency controls.

"If China allowed for greater flexibility in its exchange rate and further opened up its domestic markets for imports and foreign direct investment, it would accelerate the world's return to growth," Locke said.

Trade ties between the United States, the world's biggest economy, and No. 3 China are regarded as a key element of a recovery from the deepest global economic slump since the 1930s.

Beijing's currency controls and complaints about import and investment barriers are a chronic irritant in U.S.-Chinese trade relations. China unsettled its trading partners when it announced in May that projects financed by its economic stimulus package are required to use domestically made goods whenever possible.

Protectionism or barring foreign companies from Chinese contracts could be a "serious threat to trade cooperation," Locke warned.

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Associated Press Writers Henry Sanderson and Tini Tran and researcher Bonnie Cao contributed to this report.

BEIJING — The United States and China, the world's biggest greenhouse gas emitters, announced plans for a joint clean energy research center Wednesday as the American commerce secretary appealed to Be...
BEIJING — The United States and China, the world's biggest greenhouse gas emitters, announced plans for a joint clean energy research center Wednesday as the American commerce secretary appealed to Be...
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This is humanity moving in the right direction.­..however small a move.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 07/23/2009

no mention of nuclear though, we have to get over our fear of nuclear energy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 07/15/2009

Here in Utah, we have a 1,000 mg Wind Farm and 2,000 in Geothermal and that is just the tip of the Iceberg as we develop 100,000 MG of Solar and gazillions of gallons of Algae about to enter the marketplace to resolve the aviation dilemma. with Algae eating Co2's . Now if you city folks will paint your roof white, we might actually solve this crisis before we all Choke and Roast to death.
We have no time to solve this before it's too late. Forget the 50 years,we have no time to waste. It is the UNIFYING FORCE for our salvation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 07/15/2009
- sc300nc I'm a Fan of sc300nc 55 fans permalink

How much energy does a 1,000mg wind farm produce?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 07/15/2009

If he means 1000MW peak, it would produce about 200-250MW average. Utah only needs something like 3GW on average, so that would already make quite a dent in their electricity production. And since they make 93% of it with coal, it would make quite a difference for their CO2 output.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 PM on 07/15/2009

China is talking a good game but let's see if they really get serious about climate change.
http://solarglobalgreen.com/pg/blog/justin/read/565/china-talking-big-on-climate-change

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 07/15/2009

$15 million????

O brother... where art thou?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 07/15/2009
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The fact is that global warming is by definition a “global” issue. It’s great to hear that the US and China are at least making efforts and entertaining the idea to do their part. The children of the world will hold them accountable, and some are even doing so now: http://tiny.cc/O8Oai

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 07/15/2009
- mick7191 I'm a Fan of mick7191 36 fans permalink
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Developed by us and built by them. Nothing like slave labor capitalism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 07/15/2009
- mioffe I'm a Fan of mioffe 10 fans permalink

Al Gore explains global warming very simple. Human activities increase amount of GHG in air. It process increase amount of water vapor, which is also GHG and temperature of atmosphere increased more.
IT IS THEORY OF FEEDBACK LOOP.
In next site, this theory is coming to absurd let see how:
http://www.grist.org/article/climate-scientists-dodge-the-subject-of-water-vapor/
“If you artificially increase the level of H2O in the air, it rains out immediately (in terms of climate response times). Similarly, due to the abundance of ocean on the earth's surface, if you somehow removed all the water from the air, it would quickly be replaced through evaporation.
This has the interesting consequence that if you could somehow instantly remove all CO2 from the atmosphere, the temperature would begin to drop, causing precipitation to remove H2O from the air, causing even further drops, in a feedback effect that would not end until no liquid water was left, only ice sheets and frozen oceans.”
WITHOUT CO2 “in a feedback effect that would not end until no liquid water was left, only ice sheets and frozen oceans.”
OCEANS (AROUND 70% OF EARTH’S AREA) TAKE ALMOST ALL DIRECT SUN RADIATION, MORE THAN 90%.
How dissipate this energy?
Is it dissipates only by InfraRed radiation?
No way!
Most energy dissipates by evaporation. Water vapor is GHG and will never allow oceans to be frozen.
THEORY OF FEEDBACK LOOP IS PLAYING SOME ROLE, BUT OVERESTIMATE IT ROLE IS ABSURD.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 07/15/2009
- mick7191 I'm a Fan of mick7191 36 fans permalink
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So, don't do anything?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 07/15/2009
- mioffe I'm a Fan of mioffe 10 fans permalink

Dear mick7191, healing of man depend of right diagnosis. The same is for nature.
If properties of water are plaing bigger role, than GHG we have completely different tools to fight climate change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 07/15/2009

I think that this new effort to have research centers in the United States and China is a good idea. It show that even though the U.S. and china have differences they try to come up with a solution to make peace. This opportunity for both the U.S. and China to work together could generate more jobs which is always a good think.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 AM on 07/15/2009
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