Defense Contractors Lobby For More F-22s, Obama Threatens Veto

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First Posted: 07-16-09 10:31 AM   |   Updated: 07-16-09 10:41 AM

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The F-22 stealth fighter jets may no longer be needed, but its manufacturers, Lockheed Martin and Boeing, are lobbying aggressively to keep them in the defense budget. So far, they are succeeding.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates strongly opposes the program, saying that "the F-22 is, in effect, a niche, silver-bullet solution required for a limited number of scenarios." It isn't a question of money, either. "Frankly," he said, "if my topline were $50 billion higher I would make the same decision."

"This is not about national security," said Danielle Brian, executive director for the Project On Government Oversight (POGO). "Even the Pentagon doesn't want more F-22s. This is not about partisan politics -- Sen. McCain is leading the charge and President Obama is threatening to veto the entire defense authorization bill over it.

"This is about breaking the cycle of a corrupt military industrial complex. This vote decides whether there will be reform in Washington or not," Brian said.

Last month, the House approved an additional $1.75 billion for F-22s. The Senate is currently reviewing the authorization bill, and there are signals that it will pass.

In a study released Monday, POGO found that more senators are in favor of the program than are against.

On Wednesday, Sen. Carl Levin, Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee and an opponent of the F-22 funding, postponed a vote to slash the $1.75 billion appropriation from the budget.

Lockheed and Boeing, the main beneficiaries, are deeply invested in the program and don't want to see it end. The two have spent $6.5 million and $2.4 million, respectively, to lobby Congress in 2009, according to the Center For Responsive Politics.

Obama has repeatedly threatened to veto the bill if it includes funding for more F-22s.

Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.), who represents the state where F-22s are built, is a leading advocate for the program. He has also received $69,600 in campaign contributions from Lockheed this year.

Some advocacy organizations are not looking kindly upon the news.

"Lockheed and Boeing are practicing the time-honored Washington tradition of spending big to influence and buy access to protect their bottom lines," said Common Cause President Bob Edgar. "Until we get defense contractors and other special interests out of the business of paying for congressional campaigns," Edgar said, "we'll be making jets we don't need and spending billions of taxpayer dollars that could be better used for other critical needs like education and health care."

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The F-22 stealth fighter jets may no longer be needed, but its manufacturers, Lockheed Martin and Boeing, are lobbying aggressively to keep them in the defense budget. So far, they are succeeding. De...
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As long as we are wasting money on defense contracts lets bring back the B1-B. Screw alternative energy, updated power grids and healthcare.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 AM on 07/17/2009
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 119 fans permalink
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looks like Cheney and friends of the RNC are going to have to figure out how to get fighter jets into the hands of Al Qadea to keep the money flowing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 AM on 07/17/2009
- mergina I'm a Fan of mergina 81 fans permalink
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Oh no, he is making enemies of the Defense Contractors and Arms Dealers and Military Industrial Complex just like Kennedy did? Bad idea. Very Bad Idea.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 AM on 07/17/2009
- layman I'm a Fan of layman 16 fans permalink

It's corruption like this pulling the country down and down.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 AM on 07/17/2009
- rf dude I'm a Fan of rf dude 18 fans permalink
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Don't worry - Harry will stand up to Pres Obama on this one!

Surely he can pull together a veto override - after all, it's his OWN GUY here!!
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 07/16/2009
- gfs5541 I'm a Fan of gfs5541 26 fans permalink
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Yes. Were spending our tax dollars on stuff that we don't need for wars that may not materialize. For once, why don't we spend some money on stuff we need like universal health care. Even the Air Force says we don't need that many planes!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 PM on 07/16/2009
- windup I'm a Fan of windup 20 fans permalink

Not enough money for health care reform. But enough money for fighter jets we don't need.
Gotta keep the insurance companies and defense contractors happy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 07/16/2009
- liberalbug I'm a Fan of liberalbug 39 fans permalink
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We don't need to keep investing billions in fancy fighter jets, we need to figure out how to beat non-uniformed unorganized groups of people, AKA terrorists, who can pretty much undermine a the largest military in the world by hiding home made bombs in cars, trucks and dead animals on the side of the road. Conventional warfare and its fancy weaponry is not the answer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 07/16/2009
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The simple truth is that the F16 and F15 still can stand toe to toe with any other deployed non-American aircraft in the world. The F-35 will move into the next generation, and even it is far to expensive for what improvements it will really deliver.

But this is only one of a dozen programs which are wasteful and unnecessary. People think that missile defense is just around the corner. Ha Ha Ha. Billions down the tube and it still hasn't proven itself in a true real time scenario. The Stryker vehicle has turned into a deep hole, and the design has been proven to be very flawed by the Iraq war experience. How much did we spend on the Crusader before it was shelved?

The defense industry does not create jobs the way it used to. It is not as manpower intensive as it was and often now instead of creating new technology is merely harnessing existing civilian technology.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 07/16/2009
- Gidster I'm a Fan of Gidster 186 fans permalink
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The F-22 is a superior design over the f-35, just like the F-15 is superior to the F-16.

The number of F-22 we have would be sufficient create air dominance in the event of an open war, then we can build more....Right now, the F-35 is a cheaper alternative to upgrading the entire fleet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 AM on 07/17/2009
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but how will we fight non-existent opponents?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 07/16/2009
- CigarGod I'm a Fan of CigarGod 98 fans permalink
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"who do you, who do you, who do you, who do you think you are,
Ha ha ha bless your soul
You really think you're in control"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 07/16/2009
- helonias I'm a Fan of helonias 218 fans permalink
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How many 200 million $ fighters does it take to save the 20,000 Americans who die each year because of a lack of health care.

Does Jesus know the answer

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 07/16/2009
- SPacific I'm a Fan of SPacific 2 fans permalink
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Saxby Chambliss...Isn't he the chickenhawk who questioned the patriotism of a real Vietnam era war hero, Max Cleland??.­.......Fun­ny how cons like Chamblis, Cheney, Limbaugh, and a whole host of other republican defense pretenders, can act so "tough", when in fact, in REAL life, they are nothing but cowards..........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:21 PM on 07/16/2009

They were above the fray.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 AM on 07/17/2009
- Wayne1ea I'm a Fan of Wayne1ea 11 fans permalink
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We simply don't need any more of these expensive war machines. The Military industrial complex has run a muck long enough. How about they build high performance wind turbines instead.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 PM on 07/16/2009
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But you can't blow stuff up with wind turbines

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 07/16/2009
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That's not all John sang about...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqP3wT5lpa4

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 07/16/2009
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