Pentagon Won't Ban Tobacco Products In War Zones

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PAULINE JELINEK | July 16, 2009 12:19 AM EST | AP

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WASHINGTON — Smoke 'em if you got 'em. The Pentagon reassured troops Wednesday that it won't ban tobacco products in war zones. Defense officials hadn't actually planned to eliminate smoking – at least for now. But fear of a ban arose among some troops after the Defense Department received a study recommending the military move toward becoming tobacco-free – perhaps in about 20 years.

Press secretary Geoff Morrell pointedly told a Pentagon news conference that Defense Secretary Robert Gates is not planning to prohibit the use of cigarettes, chewing tobacco or other tobacco products by troops in combat.

"He knows that the situation they are confronting is stressful enough as it is," Morrell said, noting the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. "I don't think he is interested in adding to the stress levels by taking away one of the few outlets they may have to relieve stress."

Gates will review the new study to see if there are some things than can be done to work toward the goal of having a smoke-free force some day, Morrell said.

"Obviously, it's not our preference to have a force that is using tobacco products," he said, noting health concerns and the high cost of caring for health-related problems.

The study, commissioned by the Pentagon and the Veterans Affairs Department, recommended that the military start making incremental moves toward becoming smoke-free. The report by the Institute of Medicine suggested the services could start by banning smoking at military academies, then among recruits. It said the VA and Pentagon should eliminate use of tobacco on its facilities and the military should stop selling tobacco products at its commissaries.

The military and VA have been working for years to reduce smoking among soldiers and vets through a number of programs. The Pentagon laid out a plan in 1999 to reduce smoking rates by 5 percent a year and reduce chewing tobacco use to 15 percent by 2001 – and still wasn't able to achieve the goals.

"Tobacco use declined overall from 1980 to 2005, but there has recently been an increase in consumption, possibly because of increased tobacco use by deployed troops," the study said.

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The military hasn't placed a high enough priority on reducing tobacco use, according to the study, and that while smoking has declined in the U.S., it remains higher in the military than in the civilian world.

In 2005, a third of members of the active-duty military smoked compared to a fifth of the adult U.S. population, the study said, adding that it "has been implicated in" higher dropout rates during and after basic training, higher absenteeism in the military and other problems.

Criticism of the proposals spread across the Internet and among troops.

"Our troops make enough sacrifices to serve our nation," said Brian Wise, executive director of the advocacy group Military Families United. "They give up many of the freedoms civilians enjoy already without being told they cannot partake in yet another otherwise legal activity."

Spc. Charles Rodriguez, 23, said he started smoking long before he joined the Army and that his pack-a-day habit doesn't affect his physical fitness. His Army instructors during basic training made him quit, but he quickly started up again, Rodriguez said in an interview outside of Fort Campbell, Ky.

During his last deployment to Iraq, Rodriguez found a lot of time to smoke while troops were patrolling or just hanging around the base. He said one of his friends who doesn't normally smoke would join him for a cigarette during the deployment, just out of boredom

Said Rodriguez, "There's nothing else to do and they're cheap over there."

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Associated Press writers Kristin M. Hall in Oak Grove, Ky., and Lolita C. Baldor in Washington contributed to this report.

(This version CORRECTS the spelling of Rodriguez.)

WASHINGTON — Smoke 'em if you got 'em. The Pentagon reassured troops Wednesday that it won't ban tobacco products in war zones. Defense officials hadn't actually planned to eliminate smoking &nd...
WASHINGTON — Smoke 'em if you got 'em. The Pentagon reassured troops Wednesday that it won't ban tobacco products in war zones. Defense officials hadn't actually planned to eliminate smoking &nd...
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Smoking in the military is fine.

As long as said cigarettes or cigars are not gay.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 07/16/2009

Interesting tidbit about cigarettes and the military..­.During WWII the cigarette manufacturerers GAVE FREE CIGARETTES to the military , thisa is how my father started smoking...­cigarettes were avialable to all servicemen and women

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 07/16/2009
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Not only WWll. I was in Korea 1952 and every morning with our powdered milk and dried eggs we were given a free pack of Chesterfield cigarettes. I was already a smoker so they didn't start anything but they approved of it. Of coarse in those days everyone smoked. I have since quit and can't imagine smoking again. It is very hard to quit and a place like Iraq or Afganistan is no place to do it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 PM on 07/16/2009

That's a mistake. If athletes are expected to be tobacco-free, so should the U.S. military! I mean what's the point of boot camp then?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 07/16/2009
- fedupinfla I'm a Fan of fedupinfla 48 fans permalink
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Athletes aren't under stressful life & death situations.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 07/16/2009
- TexasDem0 I'm a Fan of TexasDem0 33 fans permalink

When under life and death situations, one should smoke?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 07/16/2009

5th tour ? here have a smoke.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 07/16/2009
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I think by the fifth tour you should be allowed to drop acid. Worked for Doc Ellis.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 07/16/2009

I hate smoking...­but.. it is not the right time to ban smoking when the troops are on the front line.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 07/16/2009
- bolivare I'm a Fan of bolivare 9 fans permalink

You may hate it, and thats fine. Then don't smoke. Regardless of the time, its not, no offense, your business. I obey the no smoking at work without issue. I don't like standing in the cold to do it, but thats my choice.
Thank you for your consideration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 07/16/2009

Sex Free, Gay Free,Beer Free, come on!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 07/16/2009
- kbkw54 I'm a Fan of kbkw54 57 fans permalink

LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 PM on 07/16/2009

Smoke em if you gottem. They deserve the right to smoke a little bit if your facing the threat of roadside bomb and being shot at by Talibon or insergency fighters in Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 PM on 07/16/2009
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As an American citizen, I am not going to tell out brave troops, in the battlefield, that they can't light it up or kick a few back off duty!

I support the Defense Dept in this stance!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 PM on 07/16/2009
- TexasDem0 I'm a Fan of TexasDem0 33 fans permalink

Even if only a small percentage of them are smokers, and most want a smoke free environment?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 07/16/2009
- fedupinfla I'm a Fan of fedupinfla 48 fans permalink
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Where are your stats on that???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 07/16/2009
- gaydm I'm a Fan of gaydm 8 fans permalink
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Yeah! heaven forbid, that you could die from all that second hand smoke in a war zone.
It still makes no sense to me that we are willing and able to send young men who are unable to drink legally, to war, to possibly die in combat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 07/16/2009
- bolivare I'm a Fan of bolivare 9 fans permalink

Not your business. We already have designated smoking areas here in the states that we have to abide. I can live with that. But, you and others are not going to ban anyone. Thats impinging on my freedoms thank you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 PM on 07/16/2009
- HamletsMill I'm a Fan of HamletsMill 247 fans permalink
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How about a "Depleted Uranium Free" environment? Over 300,000 troops in Gulf War I got sick since 1990 over the last 19 years. Gulf War Syndrome. That was almost a third of the force!

Both the U.s Government and the American people could care less. As long as somebody makes a buck and it is somebody else's son or daughter destroyed Americans would betray anyone for 30 pieces of silver.

But the veterans know. They know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 PM on 07/16/2009

Just to let you know that the Military has indeed cracked down on smoking. Most indoor workplaces (Naval Ships and so on) are smoke-free, people are required to go outside to designated areas. (Usually in obscure areas, out of sight of the general public.) Military personnel, while in uniform, are generally not allowed in uniform to smoke in public, again only in designated places. You just can't walk down the street puffing away while in uniform. Military non-smokers are typically more safeguarded from second hand smoke than the civilian population.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 PM on 07/16/2009
- Mnemanth I'm a Fan of Mnemanth 18 fans permalink
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Don't smoke, or drink, or view pornography, or engage in s*x, or...

We want you good and healthy and attentive when you're killed!

This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Obviously some Washington beaurocrats need some service time.

Oh, wait... No, military service is for the peons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 PM on 07/16/2009
- bighat I'm a Fan of bighat 63 fans permalink
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We should send the people that write these reports to Iraq and let them follow the soldiers around.. I would say after the 2nd IED went off or 1 sucide bomber then they would be smoking as well. Even with all the knowledge of what smoking will cause

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 07/16/2009
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Exactly

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 07/16/2009
- HamletsMill I'm a Fan of HamletsMill 247 fans permalink
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Eisenhower smoked up to four packs of cigarettes a day in WWII! War is pure stress for everyone, everywhere.

http://books.google.com/books?id=sLZI7Gm_KXIC&pg=PA326&lpg=PA326&dq=eisenhower+smoking+wwII&source=bl&ots=SFtLd_MaId&sig=VnFP2GDJz2mseuqWj-xb4r6784k&hl=en&ei=r79fStHCLIacMOHVkcAC&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 PM on 07/16/2009
- TexasDem0 I'm a Fan of TexasDem0 33 fans permalink

And the ONLY way to relieve stress is to smoke cigarettes, as proven by marketing executives at major tobacco companies?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 PM on 07/16/2009

Just from experience I can say that while in Iraq I smoked a pack a day, ate Pizza Hut, Burger King, and chow hall slop. I was still in better shape than most of America. At the same time, no one was forced to inhale any second-hand smoke as there were plenty of "smoking areas" for the 25% of us who did smoke. When we were off post, we'd have the smokers man the gun (which is outside the vehicles) when/if they wanted a quick puff. Everyone in the military knows smoking is not healthy physically (you are harped on by a Lt. Col/Dr. every year at your physical). But the mental release of having a smoke, whether placebo or not, was worth every hard earned pennie.

When I came home there were several smoking cessation classes, medications, and support systems in place to help those who wanted to quit. The military's physical fitness programs are second to none (even the AF these days) and you can't take a smoke break during that.

Banning things for your health is a slippery slope that I don't think needs happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 07/16/2009
- TexasDem0 I'm a Fan of TexasDem0 33 fans permalink

Don't have the will to quit?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 07/16/2009
- cminca I'm a Fan of cminca 13 fans permalink

The addiction to nicotine (which is said to be more powerful than heroine) is both physical and mental.

"Having the will" may get you through the mental, while you still suffer a significant physical addiction. Patches/gum may get you through the physical need for nicotine, but won't do anything about the mental/routine part of the act of smoking.

I think your remark is simplistic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 07/16/2009
- fedupinfla I'm a Fan of fedupinfla 48 fans permalink
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His lungs, his problem. Butt out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 07/16/2009

I have quit since, partly because of the above mentioned programs. And second-hand smoke is not much in issue in a place where they burn thier own sh*t.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 PM on 07/16/2009
- kbkw54 I'm a Fan of kbkw54 57 fans permalink

IndyJim...­....I totally agree with you. Thank you for your service.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 PM on 07/16/2009
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I think if you're mature enough to enlist, you are mature enough to smoke. Who are we to judge a simple vice when you're giving so much already?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 PM on 07/16/2009
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After serving 9 years, there is no way they could do this right now and not have reenlistment nightmares. After no sleep for 5 days straight, you need legal chemicals to keep you going and nicotine and caffeine are all we had! Was idiotic to suggest a tobacco free military as long as nicotine is legal!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 07/16/2009
- TexasDem0 I'm a Fan of TexasDem0 33 fans permalink

Spoken like a devoted smoker.
Ten years in USMC and I hated being constantly exposed to other people's smoke.
A smoker's disregard for health causes harm to everyone's health.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 PM on 07/16/2009
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Well forgive the second hand smoke, but don't spend too much time dwelling. Chances are one of the other ZILLION causes of death will be your demise. In the mean time just humor me while I smoke away mine. Deal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 07/16/2009
- fedupinfla I'm a Fan of fedupinfla 48 fans permalink
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Thats why there's designated smoking areas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 PM on 07/16/2009
- zizyphus I'm a Fan of zizyphus 110 fans permalink
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Do you drive a car? They are a huge contributor to the bad air everyone is forced to breathe. The military is the single greatest consumer of petrochemical products, and pollutes wherever it goes. Cigarette smoke pales in comparison.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 07/16/2009

As someone who works for the Veterans Administration, I have a unique take on cigarette smoking among soldiers. While I think it would be wrong to stop soldiers in combat roles to stop smoking now, the military has to start doing something to require soldiers to quit smoking, such as stopping the sale of cheap cigarettes in the PX for active and retired soldiers. Most people don't realize that we pay compensation for diseases that originate during active duty, such as hypertension, heart disease, lung disease. Veteran's don't just receive disability compensation for war-related injuries. So every smoker that develops smoking related illnesses while on active duty get paid for the rest of their lives for these diseases, some at the 100% rate, which is roughly $2900 per month, tax free. Then when they die from service connected lung cancer or heart disease, their widows receive death-based compensation for the rest of their lives. Veterans and the military should do everything they can to stop noncombat veterans (which is the vast majority) to quit now, and combat soldiers to quit after they return from the front line. Although I strongly support veterans, as most people do, I resent having to pay for "vice" illnesses from cigarette smoking, and excessive drinking. We must stop the sale of cheap cigarettes at military stores (PX) at the very least. And within 5 years, they should make no smoking or a mandatory smoking cessation program as a requierment for enlistment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 PM on 07/16/2009
- zizyphus I'm a Fan of zizyphus 110 fans permalink
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Right, and they feed them slop, which causes heart attacks. How much organic produce do they sell at the PX?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 PM on 07/16/2009

Milana4, you go a little too far there. Part of the problem, as you stated, is the easy availibility of cheap cigarettes in the base and post exchanges.­. That was where I started smoking. If cigarettes were not allowed to be sold on military installations, that would greatly reduce the addiction of young smokers. The military can prohibit smoking in uniform or even on base, that would reduce it even more, but I don't see how they can say 'you can't smoke' any more than they can say 'you can't eat Big Macs'. And yes arter too many years of "quitting", I finally perfected it. But I still want one after a good meal or other good things.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 PM on 07/16/2009
- in4success I'm a Fan of in4success 43 fans permalink

well good! if you're going to put your life on the line for me and my country smoke cheesecake laced with punk-cheese if that's what you want to do. have a beer, a shot, a toke...a line...lst thing i'm gonna do is try to tell you what to do with one exception: please do not commit war crimes in my name.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 07/16/2009

Maybe they could do a Dont Ask Don't Tell for smokers!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 PM on 07/16/2009
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