Should Killing Lobsters In Boiling Water Be Outlawed? (VIDEO, POLL)

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Huffington Post   |  Barbara Fenig
First Posted: 07-16-09 05:21 PM   |   Updated: 08-16-09 05:12 AM

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It's summer, and as many head to the beach with hopes of enjoying fresh seafood, the practice of killing live lobsters in boiling water is drawing new attention.

Around the world, many are beginning to question the commonly accepted methods for killing crustaceans. In March, a group of British scientists published a report stating that shellfish can process pain.

Legislation is already in place globally to protect crustacean rights. New Zealand counts shellfish on its list of animals protected by animal rights laws, Reggio Emilia, Italy forbids the boiling of lobsters and the British Shellfish Network dutifully advocates for lobster liberties. The recent influx of scientific experiments on crustacean pain tolerance and the rise in underwater animal activists has led many to ponder "can killing lobsters be humane?"

An article by seafood expert Trevor Corson in The Atlantic explores the debate behind slaughtering lobsters.

There is a small army of animal-rights activists in Europe lobbying for new laws. [...] For most people, dispatching live animals in the kitchen is traumatic enough as it is, without the fear of landing in jail. But therein lies the crux of the matter. After all, we are killing animals to eat them. Those pigs, cows, and other mammals who already have legal protections are also getting killed to eat, and the laws, however imperfect, are there simply to reduce unnecessary suffering in the process. Even with further advances in science, we may never know precisely what crustaceans feel.

Treehugger describes the current predicament of the crustacean population.

Restaurants can do any number of methods to prepare crustaceans, ranging from throwing them into a pot of boiling water to cutting their limbs and torso while they are still technically alive. [...] But if it can be proven that they feel pain, then some would say this is just as cruel as using these same methods on a live chicken or rabbit.

The Atlantic article profiles the most humane dispatch techniques, including the hydrostatic pressure processor, which separates the meat from the shell sans cooking. However, there is still debate as to whether this is in fact humane. In the United Kingdom, scientists have created the Crustastun, a pricey electronic shellfish stunner, which humanely shocks and kills the crustacean before the boiling process begins.

Jill Santopietro of the New York Times' The Moment Blog researched the most humane demise for a lobster and in the process uncovered a secret behind humans interest in lobster pain.

Our problem as humans is that we tend to imagine how we would feel if giant-clawed, red creatures dunked us into a pot of steaming water. Robert Bayer [...] of the Lobster Institute at the University of Maine [...] told me that "there are a couple of ways to minimize trauma to the person that is doing the cooking." Wait! I said the lobster, not the cook. But that was exactly his point: the cook is the one most affected by cooking lobster. [...] They concluded that chilling lobsters in the freezer or in salted ice water will adequately numb them so that when they hit the hot pot they will move very little. [...] The change of environment will not slowly suffocate the lobsters, as some would believe, but will instead put them to sleep. Again, we cannot put ourselves in the lobster's shoes. The lobster is not a human.

PETA attempts to debunk the myth of humane lobster slaughter.

World famous Chef Eric Ripert offers instruction on the most humane method to kill crustaceans.

Quick Poll

What do you think about boiling live lobsters?

It's totally cruel and inhumane.

It's way more traumatic for the human than the lobster.

It seems way less cruel than factory farming.

It should be outlawed.

C'mon. It's just a lobster.


It's summer, and as many head to the beach with hopes of enjoying fresh seafood, the practice of killing live lobsters in boiling water is drawing new attention. Around the world, many are beginning ...
It's summer, and as many head to the beach with hopes of enjoying fresh seafood, the practice of killing live lobsters in boiling water is drawing new attention. Around the world, many are beginning ...
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I believe we are really confused when it comes to worrying about a lobster being killed when many don't care about killing an unborn baby. Get real folkst

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 07/25/2009
- mathme I'm a Fan of mathme 28 fans permalink
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Please, pay attention.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 07/27/2009
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lol your comment would make sense if some lifers cared about children AFTER they were born.stay on topic.lobsters have a central nervous system,they feel pain,enough said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 PM on 08/11/2009
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The modern world is an amazing thing.
We have access to all the vegetable-based protein necessary to live healthy lives because of transportation. Beans, greens and all other vegetables year-round from all corners of the globe.
I haven't eaten meat for three years and I haven't lost any weight or muscle tone. Thanks to herbs and spices, all my food tastes great.
I no longer have need for meat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 07/20/2009

As soon as you find me a plant-based food with the taste and texture of Lobster, I'll stop eating lobster.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 07/21/2009
- robbyJ I'm a Fan of robbyJ 32 fans permalink

Death is just but a few moments.

I am more concerned with the life they lived. I don't eat veil and i try to stay away from anything from an animal farm.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 07/19/2009

Agreed. I havent eaten commercially raised veal in ten years (since I understood the conditions in which they "live").

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 PM on 07/22/2009
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Please keep all pets healthy and happy: http://petrecipesandmore.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 PM on 07/18/2009
- isis I'm a Fan of isis 17 fans permalink
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I can't stand the thought of ordering a lobster and having it tossed into boiling water. If they kill them more humanely I might eat them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 07/18/2009

Lobsters squealing when dropped in boiling water is a myth.

You get a person looking at the pot when the person drops in the lobster;
And then people behind him or her all scream at the same time scaring the person.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 07/18/2009
- senevada I'm a Fan of senevada 2 fans permalink

not sure how you'd cook them if not by boiling....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 07/18/2009
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Last time I checked, animals eating animals is the way of nature.

We're animals.

Lobsters are animals.

If they were big enough, they'd eat us.

Tough luck, Claw.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 07/18/2009
- doriath22 I'm a Fan of doriath22 9 fans permalink

You think they aren't big enough? How do you think most of the bodies were located when that TWA flight crashed in Long Island Sound a few years ago? Mmmmmmm.......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:21 PM on 07/18/2009
- jadamind I'm a Fan of jadamind 4 fans permalink

I don't want to eat anything that would run from being caught. It means they have a survival instinct.
What I find strange is how many people are selfish and feel that because they like the taste, they
should be able to eat it. Some pigmy tribes like the taste of human heart...care to try it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 07/18/2009

You do know that plants scream when you pull them apart. You just can't hear them because they scream very softly. You could try eating dirt; you will get lots of minerals that way and dirt doesn't run away from you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 07/18/2009
- cucumber I'm a Fan of cucumber 25 fans permalink

I recommend a very basic science class.

No evidence on the planet that plants feel pain. Lobsters are another story, as the links in the OP will show you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 AM on 07/19/2009
- JeanRR I'm a Fan of JeanRR 8 fans permalink

You are willing to discriminate against plants because they can't run!?! Plants feel pain and plants communicate with each other. I'll bet you even eat plants that are still alive. For shame!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 07/19/2009

So as long as we train them not to run, it's okay?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 07/22/2009
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Lobsters squealing when thrown into a pot of boiling water certainly made me question the contention that lobsters do not feel pain. I will never forget those squeals. Kind of sounded like guinea pigs only more intense. I was at a friend's home and she was cooking a wonderful meal when this happened. I left the kitchen, could not listen to what clearly seemed to be their shock or pain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 07/18/2009
- doriath22 I'm a Fan of doriath22 9 fans permalink

They aren't squealing, mate; the sound you hear is pressurized water escaping through their tiny (whistle-like) mouths.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 07/18/2009
- mathme I'm a Fan of mathme 28 fans permalink
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I thought it was the sudden heat causing deformations of the shell.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 07/27/2009
- donnajr I'm a Fan of donnajr 3 fans permalink

boiling also contributes to global warming ,which is irreversible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 07/18/2009
- doriath22 I'm a Fan of doriath22 9 fans permalink

Oh, the fun Lewis Carrol would have with this one......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 AM on 07/18/2009

It is sad to see all the harsh and negative reactions to the simple idea of treating a living being more compassionately.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 AM on 07/18/2009
- cucumber I'm a Fan of cucumber 25 fans permalink

...and yet watch them complain and wail if someone belittles their s.uffering.

Those who show no mercy to others, can expect none for themselves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 AM on 07/18/2009

I used to put live lobsters on the grill, but friends used to get bent out of shape about it, so now, before I put them on the grill, I stab them in the head until they stop moving. To my friends this is more humane.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 AM on 07/18/2009
- mgbgt95 I'm a Fan of mgbgt95 2 fans permalink

The word "Humanity" comes from the words for humans & their general sense of fair play & compassion.

Whether you want "butter" w/that or not, you need to examine how it might feel were u to be boiled alive.
Not to equate a human nervous system with that of a lowly 'animal', but the general conclusion is that it is not a pleasant experience.

To allow ones appetite to succumb to ones belief system doesn't say much for the strength of that conviction.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 PM on 07/17/2009
- cucumber I'm a Fan of cucumber 25 fans permalink

Their belief system is that if it serves them, and they can get away with it, they do it, no matter what the s.uffering. That's why so many humans had s.laves, until they were forced to give them up. Most of the folks in this thread have the mentality of sl.aveholders, although they deny it. They are unable to put themselves in the position of the one who is suffering for their trivial preferences.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 AM on 07/18/2009
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