Sotomayor Confirmation: Swaying Court May Be Tougher Than Confirmation

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First Posted: 07-18-09 09:21 PM   |   Updated: 08-18-09 05:12 AM

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WASHINGTON -- Sonia Sotomayor might find it was easier to disarm Republican senators who have one eye on Hispanic voters than to sway Supreme Court justices who have lifetime appointments.

She would be the new kid on the block in a group that values seniority and relationships built over years, even decades.

But Sotomayor's self-assured performance before the Senate Judiciary Committee suggests that her very presence in the high court's private conferences could change the conversation, in the same way though perhaps not as much as Thurgood Marshall, the first black justice, did 42 years ago.

Four days of Senate hearings put the 55-year-old federal judge on the verge of becoming the first Hispanic and the third female justice. The Senate is expected to vote on her confirmation in early August.

Sotomayor displayed an easy way with her questioners.

She joked with conservative Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., in an exchange about gun rights and told a story about her mother's disbelief when Sotomayor left a high-paying private practice to become a federal judge.

She told senators she was a "really good litigator" who has been successful in persuading colleagues wherever she has worked.

"I am mightily impressed," Coburn told her as he wrapped up his questioning Thursday.

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To the court Sotomayor would bring life experiences in many ways totally unlike those of the other justices, even though nearly all, including her, are products of Ivy League colleges or law schools.

She grew up in public housing in the South Bronx, the daughter of working-class Puerto Rican parents who made their way to New York during World War II.

But unlike Justice Clarence Thomas, a product of the segregated South, and Marshall before him, Sotomayor never felt the sting of legalized discrimination.

Like her would-be colleagues, Sotomayor served as a federal appeals court judge. But she would be the only justice with experience as a trial judge and one of two -- Justice Samuel Alito is the other -- who was a prosecutor.

These practical differences could matter as much as her life story, and not in a predictable ideological way, said Washington lawyer and court watcher Thomas Goldstein.

"As a successful Hispanic woman coming out of Yale she could have done absolutely anything and she went and became a prosecutor," Goldstein said. "It's not the story of someone who is a liberal trailblazer."

There is little doubt among conservatives and liberals that Sotomayor's votes on the Supreme Court would look a lot like those of retired Justice David Souter, the man whose seat she would take.

But her influence within the court by virtue of her defining experiences is much harder to gauge.

The other women who have served on the court, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and retired Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, have described the importance of having another woman on the court: It gives the public a better picture of the institution and makes it harder to ignore a woman's voice in internal deliberations.

Ginsburg recently said it was common several decades ago for a roomful of men to "tune out" when a lone woman spoke. There is less of it now, "but it still exists," she said in an interview with The New York Times.

O'Connor has spoken of the profound influence of Marshall, who had been a justice for 14 years when O'Connor became the court's first female justice in 1981.

"At oral arguments and conference meetings, in opinions and dissents, Justice Marshall imparted not only his legal acumen but also his life experiences, constantly pushing and prodding us to respond not only to the persuasiveness of legal argument but also to the power of moral truth," O'Connor said in a tribute to Marshall.

But O'Connor and Marshall often were on different sides of civil right cases during their overlapping years on the court. Only later in O'Connor's career did her votes seem to reflect the influence she described. She wrote a majority opinion in 2003 that upheld affirmative action policies at the University of Michigan's law school.

Sen. Arlen Specter, D-Pa., encouraged Sotomayor to "battle out the ideas that you believe in." Those fights often play out in the justices' majority opinions and dissents.

But it might take years to find out whether Sotomayor would be an effective negotiator and conciliator who can draw a wavering justice to her side.

On the current court, firmly divided between conservatives and liberals on so many cultural issues, Justice Anthony Kennedy is the only one whose vote could be described as up for grabs.

"Might she persuade Kennedy to come out differently than what Souter could persuade him to do?" Erwin Chemerinsky, dean of the new law school at the University of California at Irvine, said before the hearings. "Can Sotomayor by virtue of her life experiences move Kennedy to join the more liberal bloc more often?"

Chemerinsky said at week's end, "There's really no way to know at this stage."

John McGinnis, a Northwestern University law professor, agreed that it is hard to predict. But he thinks Sotomayor was chosen because her heritage and gender are "useful politically" to President Barack Obama. McGinnis said Obama passed over other candidates who might have been more influential.

With the exception of a new chief, justices rarely display much influence beyond their vote in their early years. Several justices have quoted the old saw about how for the first five years a new justice wonders how he or she got there, then spends the rest of the time wondering the same thing about the others.

WASHINGTON -- Sonia Sotomayor might find it was easier to disarm Republican senators who have one eye on Hispanic voters than to sway Supreme Court justices who have lifetime appointments. She woul...
WASHINGTON -- Sonia Sotomayor might find it was easier to disarm Republican senators who have one eye on Hispanic voters than to sway Supreme Court justices who have lifetime appointments. She woul...
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Watched most of Judge Sotomayor's hearing. Fascinating. I've learned a lot of legal stuff from just listening to what she said. The way she handled those questions from the Repubs -- calm, cool and confident. She knocked all those questions out of the park. How does she keep cool like the Prez? Well done, President Obama on your thoughtful nomination. Justice Sotomayor is going to surprise many people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 07/19/2009
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Why on Earth is this article anything other than a restatement of what should be placed in the "Plain as the Nose on Your Face" file?

How about some real news or substative analysis for a change?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 07/19/2009
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Thank you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 AM on 07/19/2009
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She sounded mediocre to me.

Should be right at home on the court, in that regard.

But compared to her inquisitors ,she may as well have been Marie Curie.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 AM on 07/19/2009
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She had to dial-back her testimony and go for the bland in the face of this ridiculous and relentless effort on the part of those white GOP racists to discredit her.

Those hearings were a complete joke, and her job was to endure, keep from losing her cool, and move on.

Compared to these inquisitors, she IS Marie Curie, with enough knowledge to stay the @#$% away from all the radium.

End of story.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 AM on 07/19/2009
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Don't bet on it . Judge Sotomayor have shown already that she will be a shrewd leader on the bench .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 AM on 07/19/2009
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Agree.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 AM on 07/19/2009
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"John McGinnis, a Northwestern University law professor, agreed that it is hard to predict. But he thinks Sotomayor was chosen because her heritage and gender are "useful politically" to President Barack Obama. McGinnis said Obama passed over other candidates who might have been more influentia­l."

ouch.

Everything is about appearances with this campaig.. uh... presidency.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 AM on 07/19/2009
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And we should bother to pay the slightest attention to Prof. McGinnis's opinion why?

In that context and using the esteemed professor's analysis, how are we to explain away the nominations of Samuel Alito and John Roberts, two legal lightweights?

We eagerly await your learned response.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 AM on 07/19/2009
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Imagine that.

Not like the good old Bush (Sr.) days when only the very best were nominated, regardless of politics. See: Clarence Thomas.

In other words, who do you thing you're fooling with that nonsense, Trot?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 07/19/2009

I think Judge Sotomayor knows her ability to change the Court will be limited. She realizes there are at least five Supreme Court Justices who are clones of the bigoted, know-nothing Republicans Sessions, Graham, Coburn and the rest. And she made it clear during her testimony that going home and getting a gun and shooting them because they attack her mercilessly and for no reason is illegal and she is law-abiding.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 AM on 07/19/2009

I was very, very disturbed by her non-answer regarding the right to self-defense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 AM on 07/19/2009

She's a gun-grabber -- end of story. However, she is most likely the most qualified candidate in the last 40 years. She wouldn't get my vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 AM on 07/19/2009
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A "gun-grabb­er."

You guys are a hoot, with your endless list of catch phrases which you imagine actually might mean something.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 AM on 07/19/2009
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So, what are you grabbing lately, Sen. Graham?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 AM on 07/19/2009
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What did you want her to do, take those clowns back to first-year law school torts class? If she had, she'd then have been accused of being "uppity," "preachy" or "condescen­ding."

Since it was a no win situation, she did the best she could.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 AM on 07/19/2009
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You were already very disturbed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 PM on 07/19/2009
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She is going into a job with vipers mostly right wingers. I wouldnt want to be in that position , she is a brave soul..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 AM on 07/19/2009
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I heard the boogiemen are sharpening their fangs and p|tchf0rks­...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 AM on 07/19/2009
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Don't get your shorts in too big a not about Judge (soon Justice) Sotomayor. I suspect she can give as good as she gets, and will more than hold her own against the Scalias, Roberts, and Alitos on the court.

She's a gutsy lady, regardless of her beliefs, "empathy,' or whatever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 07/19/2009
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That would be your "shorts in too big a KNOT," actually. Sorry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 07/19/2009
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What makes anyone think she is going to be that out of place on the current court. The idea that she is a flaming liberal is so far off base that it almost deserves no comment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 AM on 07/19/2009

I think she knows her ability to change the Court will be limited. She realizes there are at least five Supreme Court Justices who are clones of the bigoted, know-nothing Republicans Sessions, Graham, Coburn and the rest. And she made it clear during her testimony that going home and getting a gun and shooting them because they attack her mercilessly and for no reason is illegal and she is law-abiding.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 AM on 07/19/2009
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Sonia Sotomayor is an authoritarian prosecution biased drug warrior. It is an insult to the career social justice advocate Thurgood Marshall to compare Sotomayor to Marshall.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 AM on 07/19/2009
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I am a left wing America who is critical of Obama and Sotomayor for their being as right-wing as they are. There is not sense my writing anything on HuffPost because they censor me and prevent me from expressing opinions critical of the authoritarian leadership of the Democrats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 AM on 07/19/2009
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Awful article...­HfPo sometimes screws up in their content...­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 AM on 07/19/2009
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Oh, a slightly less-gushing review of S0tomayor.­.. and HuffPuff 'scr3ws up'...

You're going to have to diversify your sources of information. It's healthier for ya.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 AM on 07/19/2009
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They more often that not offer a healthy balance. IMHO

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 AM on 07/19/2009
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And you should remember to take your medication this morning.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 07/19/2009
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If she continues posing as John Roberts, it shouldn't be difficult at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 AM on 07/19/2009
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Good point .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 AM on 07/19/2009
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There always has to be a downside for the mainstream media to be happy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 AM on 07/19/2009
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For the mainstream media to be commerically relevant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 AM on 07/19/2009
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Look, the adage "if it bleeds, it leads" is all you need to know about what motivates the mainstream media, whether any of that bleeding matters one whit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 07/19/2009
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