Krugman: White House Excluding "Progressive-Economist Wing"

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The Huffington Post   |  Rachel Weiner
First Posted: 07-19-09 12:47 PM   |   Updated: 07-19-09 01:01 PM

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Newsweek's Michael Hirsch profiled Joseph Stiglitz for next week's magazine, asking why a world-renowned economist who predicted the financial crisis has been left out of the administration.

[W]hile he may be a Nobel laureate, in Washington he's seen as just another economic critic--and not always a welcome one. Few Americans recognize his name, and fewer still would recognize the man, who is short and stocky and bears a faint resemblance to Mel Brooks. Yet Stiglitz's work is cited by more economists than anyone else's in the world, according to data compiled by the University of Connecticut. And when he goes abroad--to Europe, Asia, and Latin America--he is received like a superstar, a modern-day oracle. [...]


While he had no great desire to go back into government, friends say he was deeply disappointed when an offer didn't come from Obama last fall. Not surprisingly, Stiglitz believes his old rival was behind it, though Summers denies this.

In a blog post Sunday morning, Paul Krugman said Hirsch "somewhat misses the point." It's not that Stiglitz is being excluded because of his criticism and his tendentious relationship with some Obama officials, Krugman says. Rather, an entire economic perspective is lacking in the White House.

[T]he larger story is the absence of a progressive-economist wing. A lot of people supported Obama over Clinton in the primaries because they thought Clinton would bring back the Rubin team; and what Obama has done is ... bring back the Rubin team. [...]


I think the real story is more about excluded points of view than excluded people.

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Newsweek's Michael Hirsch profiled Joseph Stiglitz for next week's magazine, asking why a world-renowned economist who predicted the financial crisis has been left out of the administration. [W]hile ...
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- eciaccio I'm a Fan of eciaccio 12 fans permalink

Obama the Wall Street favorite knows who his real patrons/employers are.

Goldman-Sachs contributed $994,795 to Obama's campaign, but only $230, 095 to McCain's campaign.

Compare the Industries and Contributors to each candidate:

McCain:

Industries: http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/indus.php?id=N00006424&cycle2=2008&goButt2.x=8&goButt2.y=9

Contributors: http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?id=N00006424&cycle2=2008&goButt2.x=8&goButt2.y=6


Obama:

Industries: http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/indus.php?id=N00009638&cycle2=2008&goButt2.x=11&goButt2.y=7

Contributors: http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?id=N00009638&cycle2=2008&goButt2.x=10&goButt2.y=4

Money talks, and "our" politicians listen very carefully.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 07/19/2009
- zell I'm a Fan of zell 6 fans permalink

It does seem that progressives like Dr. Krugman and Dr Stiglitz are being excluded from policy-making decisions in this administration. But, they are both for truth and justice. Dr. Martin Luther King said that "The arc of the universe bends towards justice." So, since both men are truth-tellers, then we will just wait for their time to come, because we know it is coming. They have already been redeemed in the matter of saying that the Stimulus Bill did not have enough funds in it. I have read and heard on television that there was not enough money put into the Stimulus Bill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 07/19/2009
- Ajita I'm a Fan of Ajita 82 fans permalink
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No one cares about Stiglitz because he preaches economic fairness. That would mean giving the developing world a chance to overcome the loss of economic wealth that resulted from the forced denial of opportunities during centuries of colonial oppression and economic imperialism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 07/19/2009
- HMDMSR I'm a Fan of HMDMSR 47 fans permalink
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At some time in the future, the developing world will start serving the US its well-deserved humble pie.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 PM on 07/19/2009
- vanmungo I'm a Fan of vanmungo 66 fans permalink

I hope that the Huffpo will henceforth adopt a hiring policy that requires a command of basic English from its reporters. Rachel Weiner writes, "It's not that Stiglitz is being excluded because of his criticism and his tendentious relationship with some Obama officials, Krugman says." The word tendentious means "biased" or "one-sided­." Ms. Weiner evidently meant to use the word contentious, but she seems not to know the difference. Shouldn't she?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 07/19/2009
- annis I'm a Fan of annis 9 fans permalink

I think you're right. "Tendentious" doesn't quite fit even though Stiglitz is not on the same page as the Obama economic team.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 07/19/2009
- HisPetGoat I'm a Fan of HisPetGoat 67 fans permalink
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Mmmmm.... it's Tendalicious!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 PM on 07/19/2009
- olephart I'm a Fan of olephart 109 fans permalink

OK, it’s been 6 months since Obama took office. The War is Iraq is following Bush’s withdrawal plan of slow to never. The other phony War is dragging on consuming resources and losing lives to no avail. The military empire continues to waste precious monies at a rate of 700 billion per year. The worthless Bush tax cuts are still in effect costing 300 billion per year and producing no jobs or growth. The Wall Street bailout orchestrated by Bush and Paulson has been continued, the jackals are still paying themselves billions and no one has been taken to task for their fraudulent actions. When does the Administration we voted for start?

From the beginning Obama underestimated the damage done by Bush, Wall Street and 28 years of Reaganomics. His selection of Geithner and Summers, his quest for bipartisanship and his accommodation of Republican policies have doomed his efforts to mediocrity. Everything Bush must go! End the Wars, rescind the Bush tax cuts, end the military Empire, reverse privatization, rescind the Wall Street bailouts and prosecute every fraudulent bankster. Reregulate the financial system and if necessary provide Government backed loans to businesses to keep things going. The monies saved from the military boondoggles and irresponsible tax cuts would fund both health care and a massive increase in alternative energy investments. The Nation can be rebuilt only with the exclusion of all things Republican. Repeating the same things and expecting different results is insanity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 07/19/2009
- Policon I'm a Fan of Policon 12 fans permalink

"The Nation can be rebuilt only with the exclusion of all things Republican­."

I smell a whiff of fascism here, no?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 07/19/2009
- olephart I'm a Fan of olephart 109 fans permalink

The other side of the aisle has nothing to offer. Their policies, programs and ideology have brought nothing but ruin, hate and misery. The facts are incontrovertible. Since Reagan and his economic policies our debt has increased by 1100%. Wages for working Americans have stagnated. The disparity of wealth has increased 20 fold. Poverty has risen, education has declined and jobs have disappeared. Now after their quest for deregulation was fulfilled our economy is in ruins. Are these the people we should be turning to for favor?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 07/19/2009
- scoops2 I'm a Fan of scoops2 4 fans permalink

It amazes me with all the evidence that is out there that people are still stuck in the boooosh v obama stupidity. It doesn't matter who is in office. We do not have a real economy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 PM on 07/19/2009
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OK, but it's all right to keep enriching Goldman Sachs, isn't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 07/19/2009

I agree. Four years is an absurd amount of time to give any president to fix things. Presidential terms should only be for six months. Then NEXT!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 07/19/2009
- vanmungo I'm a Fan of vanmungo 66 fans permalink

olephart writes, "The Nation can be rebuilt only with the exclusion of all things Republican­." But these policies are not "Republican"--they are the bipartisan property of both parties. The major parties are twin advocates of the plutocratic corporate agenda.

The Democratic Party has not passed any serious reform legislation since Medicare and the Civil Rights act, nearly a half century ago. Since then the Democratic Party has evolved in to a subsidiary of corporate America that is barely distinguishable from the Republicans on any major policy issue.

Let's take health care. Here are the contributions from the private health companies to both major parties in the 2008 election cycle: Party Split: Dems: $90 million, Repubs: $72 million

OK--clear enough? Get the picture? This is not your father's Democratic Party. They ARE acting like Democrats (i.e., Republicans)--the current sold-out, DLC, triangulating, pro-WTO/NAFTA, Iraq War-funding, Patriot-Ac­t-approvin­g, Alito/Robe­rts-confir­ming, Glass-Stea­gall-repea­ling DEMOCRATS.

Now that we've dispelled your illusions about the ruling duopoly, here are some organizations you can check out if you want to act indepedently to achieve the only real health-care reform, the one being suppressed by both major parites-- nonprofit single-payer Medicare for all:
www.pnhp.org

www.singlepayeraction.org

http://www.healthcare-now.org

http://www.1payer.net/

http://www.guaranteedhealthcare.org/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 07/19/2009
- Ladywolf55 I'm a Fan of Ladywolf55 19 fans permalink
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Bravo! Vanmungo gets it! If you want REAL change, I suggest you follow his direction. He's steering you correctly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 PM on 07/19/2009
- olephart I'm a Fan of olephart 109 fans permalink

Exactly my point!

"When does the Administration we voted for start?"

"His selection of Geithner and Summers have doomed his efforts to mediocrity­."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 07/19/2009
- HMDMSR I'm a Fan of HMDMSR 47 fans permalink
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The economy of the future will be based on balance and sustainability. Before Americans can deal with this, they will have to be exorcised of their silly free market explanations.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 07/19/2009
- scoops2 I'm a Fan of scoops2 4 fans permalink

more generalized progressive nonesense. You guys will not be satisfied until everyone makes the same amount of money, no matter what job they have.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 07/19/2009
- HMDMSR I'm a Fan of HMDMSR 47 fans permalink
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Free market models contain technical terms, equations, assertions that some aspects of the economy are represented by these terms and equations, concepts of equilibria, etc. You must feel these models are correct. They aren't. What we think people should make in wages is a moral concern. I'm not a moralist at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 07/19/2009
- flossophy I'm a Fan of flossophy 328 fans permalink
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Pr0gressive / S0cialist governments are unsustainable economically and environmentally.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 07/19/2009
- scoops2 I'm a Fan of scoops2 4 fans permalink

The roots of todays mondern banking go back to the knights templars. They had all of europe in debt. King phillipe (who owed massive amounts of money to the K T), noticed the manipulative exchange of power over the people and put an end to it. Friday 13th, 1307. The rothchild dynasty was finally able to take over control of govt in europe, in the 1800's.

Amschel Mayer Rothschild (1773-1855, who in 1838 said: "Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws.")

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 PM on 07/19/2009
- jazzman I'm a Fan of jazzman 229 fans permalink
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So much for that 'Team of Rivals' concept. It's more like the team of Goldman Sach's drinking buddies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 PM on 07/19/2009
- jozzie I'm a Fan of jozzie 96 fans permalink
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Succinctly put!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 PM on 07/19/2009
- HisPetGoat I'm a Fan of HisPetGoat 67 fans permalink
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How about Adam Smith has his "invisible thumb" up his A*s?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 PM on 07/19/2009
- mozara I'm a Fan of mozara 4 fans permalink

I'm appalled to see how these guys, who deregulated, are now running the show. What do these guys have to do to get fired? At the same time the guys who were skeptical of deregulation are being kept at arms length. It's a joke!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 07/19/2009
- HisPetGoat I'm a Fan of HisPetGoat 67 fans permalink
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Capitalism is Anti-Socialism. Let's start calling it that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 PM on 07/19/2009
- olephart I'm a Fan of olephart 109 fans permalink

Start with your mentor Paulson get him on board.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 PM on 07/19/2009
- flossophy I'm a Fan of flossophy 328 fans permalink
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No.

S0cialism is State-run Capitalism.
Pr0gressivism is State-managed Capitalism (poorly managed)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 PM on 07/19/2009
- HMDMSR I'm a Fan of HMDMSR 47 fans permalink
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Is all socialism state-run capitalism?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 PM on 07/19/2009
- HisPetGoat I'm a Fan of HisPetGoat 67 fans permalink
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So, you think everything is capitalism?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 07/19/2009
- jazzman I'm a Fan of jazzman 229 fans permalink
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Not necessarily.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 07/19/2009
- TJCole I'm a Fan of TJCole 161 fans permalink
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The secret of the universe is balance...­!

We must use what's best from both systems...

Adapt or perish...

We need to Nationalize the major fundamental underpinnings of our economic system..!

Health Care

Major Energy

Our Corrupted Banking System..

Our Airlines

Maybe our fiber optic system as well which is too slow and still incomplete­...

The first three are most important.­..

This would create an economic boom like we haven't seen in decades...­!

What's Obama's plan to create an economic boom..?

We could then cut costs and due to Energy send billions to the development of new technologies and new energy sources...­to propel us into the future ahead of the rest of the world..!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 07/19/2009
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Exactly...­..balance. What the libertaria­ns/conserv­atives/Aus­trians here fail to understand is that Keynesists advocate TEMPORARY adjustments in fiscal and monetary policy during recessions. When times are good, the govt. and the Fed should run surpluses and raise interest rates.

Austrians and conservatives think only in absolutes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 PM on 07/19/2009
- TJCole I'm a Fan of TJCole 161 fans permalink
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Right the banking system once it's been purged of the swindlers, and those infected by it's long term bad practices could be someday re-privatized with proper reasonable regulation­...of course...!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 07/19/2009
- HisPetGoat I'm a Fan of HisPetGoat 67 fans permalink
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They believe a magical "invisble hand" will fix things.

Neo-classical economic theory is to physics what creationism is to biology.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 PM on 07/19/2009

We have tried this Socialism BS since 1930.....n­ow we have a Crisis from Democrat Bank Deregulati­on...High Insurance cost from Government Regulation­...A failed Soc-Sec system...5­0 million people waiting for Entitlemen­ts....A failing Post Office,and Amtrak....­.EPA Rules,and Government Climate Regulation that has destroyed our manufacturing Sector...T­ax Laws that drive business overseas..­..Illegal Aliens on Welfare...­.A welfare system that has destroyed our Black Americans.­.....F**K Socialism.­......We need to get back to Capitalism­.....LOW TAXES,and PURE CAPITALISM

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 07/19/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 157 fans permalink

See, over here in the real world it was capitalism that failed us so spectacularly it nearly took out the entire world while the countries that relied up on socialism did better than the rest.

But it really sounds like a mess in your world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 PM on 07/19/2009

I need some policy....­..tell me how pure capitalism was present...­I see Bank Dereg..I see Liberal policy in CA.....I see no Capitalism­...give me a example

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 PM on 07/19/2009

Socialist Countries have very low GDP growth,and 8% avg.unempl­oyment...S­pain is at 18% now....Cli­mate Change BS has been halted..it did not work..it drained their money...Yo­u are being lied to...or you know nothing about Economics

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 07/19/2009
- HMDMSR I'm a Fan of HMDMSR 47 fans permalink
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Nobody could be that stupid. He must be a Democrat, posing as a Republican That happens a lot here..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 07/19/2009
- flossophy I'm a Fan of flossophy 328 fans permalink
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"... countries that relied up on socialism did better than the rest."

which countries and when?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 PM on 07/19/2009
- jlab I'm a Fan of jlab 92 fans permalink
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Good lord, you are truly scary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:58 PM on 07/19/2009
- ckfan I'm a Fan of ckfan 85 fans permalink
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LOL. No we know why Obama needs secret service.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 PM on 07/19/2009

waiting...­you can comment...­.where is the Capitalism you speak of

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:07 PM on 07/19/2009
- Ping I'm a Fan of Ping 63 fans permalink

JOKE.....H­AHAHAHAHAH­A

Capitalism is dead.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:58 PM on 07/19/2009

You better hope not....tha­t is what makes the money you want to steal

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 PM on 07/19/2009
- flossophy I'm a Fan of flossophy 328 fans permalink
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Pr0gressivism / S0cialism is simply state-run capitalism­...

It's simply the State annexing the economy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 07/19/2009
- HisPetGoat I'm a Fan of HisPetGoat 67 fans permalink
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Every essential service belongs in the public sector.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 PM on 07/19/2009
- flossophy I'm a Fan of flossophy 328 fans permalink
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Look how well that worked for Public Education.­.. 45 years of churning out an under-educated underclass. Extremely high cost and abysmally low quality...

So... you want to do the same thing with health care?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 07/19/2009
- mozara I'm a Fan of mozara 4 fans permalink

It takes a lack of intelligence or a lack of intellectual honesty to spin things the way you did.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 PM on 07/19/2009

Im talking Economics.­..your just talking...­.how about some substance.­..where does democrat bank dereg fit into Capitalism

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 07/19/2009
- Sinick I'm a Fan of Sinick 7 fans permalink
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Yeah, he was not considered because he wasn't a Goldman-Sachs alumnus.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 07/19/2009
- Ping I'm a Fan of Ping 63 fans permalink

He wasn't considered because he's just not that good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 PM on 07/19/2009
- mozara I'm a Fan of mozara 4 fans permalink

Yeah, that's it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 07/19/2009

Im real good...I can debate all night

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 07/19/2009
- scoops2 I'm a Fan of scoops2 4 fans permalink

There is such a misconception in this country. WE ARE NOT A WEALTHY COUNTRY. our wealth is based on debt and credit, which is based on false value.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 07/19/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 157 fans permalink

I would not say we're not wealthy. But we waste most of our wealth on interest payments and the military and we distribute our wealth worse than any but a few African kleptocracies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 PM on 07/19/2009
- anticon I'm a Fan of anticon 9 fans permalink

So true.Most do not have a clue that the economic power has already shifted to the east.

We will all get a rude awakening when the Chinese bankers want to cash their chips.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:06 PM on 07/19/2009
- scoops2 I'm a Fan of scoops2 4 fans permalink

those shanghi buisinessmen do not play.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 07/19/2009
- jozzie I'm a Fan of jozzie 96 fans permalink
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Wealth is relative. The only thing we really had going for us was what the "international" market agreed was the worth of our real estate.

We really leaned on that one. You see where that went.

Yes, our money system is a debt system. And it doesn't create wealth in the long term.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 07/19/2009
- 1088 I'm a Fan of 1088 100 fans permalink

Krugman cannot be trusted, for when he don't get his way, he head straight to the media and write against you. Who needs enemy when supporter like this!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 PM on 07/19/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 157 fans permalink

He's not an enemy or a supporter. He's an economist. And he's right a lot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 PM on 07/19/2009
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Except when he said that a housing bubble would be good for the economy. http://blog.mises.org/archives/010153.asp

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 07/19/2009
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