Obama Ally Throws Cold Water On Health Care

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First Posted: 07-19-09 09:37 AM   |   Updated: 07-19-09 11:12 AM

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During the course of the presidential campaign, Gov. Brian Schweitzer (D-Mont.) was often rumored to be on then Sen. Barack Obama's vice presidential short list. At the Democratic National Convention he gave one of the most crowd-pleasing speeches -- a blue-collared take on Democratic politics with a healthy dose of acid-tongue pokes at Sen. John McCain's wealth.

Now, however, Schweitzer isn't doing the president any favors, becoming one of the highest-profiled Democrats outside of Washington to throw cold water on health care reform.

Appearing on C-SPAN Sunday morning, Schweitzer said that the legislation currently making its way through Congress would unfairly burden states by requiring them to pay for a portion of the expanded coverage at a time when budgets are tight and pushing for growth in Medicaid.

"I have a lot of concerns as a governor," Schweitzer said from the National Governors Association meeting in Biloxi, Mississippi. "Now, let me lay this out, there are only a few states that have a budget surplus, we are one them, we have about $400 million in cold hard cash in the bank. Very few states have got that. And we got there through good fiscal management. You can't put more things on your plate than you can afford to pay for. Now what is happening in Congress right now, things that disturb us as governors, is first they are looking at the rules and one of the proposals would be that the way we are going to pay for a portion of this health care is we will turn to the states and ask them to bond, to pay for some of the health care. They want to do some financial trickery, simply stated, we can't afford what we are doing today so we will get the states to borrow some money. Well we are not going to do that, because it is going to hurt our bond rating. We as states, we have as prizes our bond rating and this would tend to decrease our bond rating. By the way, the federal government, if Congress wants to have a health care program, then they need to pay for it. They can't dump it back on the states."

"The second problem we have is that one of the least effective programs in terms of health care, in the history of this country, is something called Medicaid," the Montana Democrat added. "About 20 percent of America is on a Medicaid program and they would like to shift it and grow it to somewhere around 25 or 30 percent. In Montana's case alone it would add 115 million dollars to our costs in our state, as our match. Now Medicaid is a system that isn't working, almost everyone agrees. But what Congress intends to do is increase the number [of people] on Medicaid so they could do it for the cheap. It is not working for anybody."

Fortunately for the Obama White House, Schweitzer ultimately won't have a vote on health care legislation. But his skepticism doesn't help the administration's argument that Washington is out of touch with the American public. And having a prominent ally express doubts publicly is not something the president wants right now. And it wouldn't be much of a shocker if Schweitzer were to get a call sometime this week from his former gubernatorial colleague, current Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius. Or maybe even Obama himself.

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During the course of the presidential campaign, Gov. Brian Schweitzer (D-Mont.) was often rumored to be on then Sen. Barack Obama's vice presidential short list. At the Democratic National Convention ...
During the course of the presidential campaign, Gov. Brian Schweitzer (D-Mont.) was often rumored to be on then Sen. Barack Obama's vice presidential short list. At the Democratic National Convention ...
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- Coinyer101 I'm a Fan of Coinyer101 663 fans permalink
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We all have a right to our own opinions. I don't like the current proposal, much, either, just, fer different reasons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 07/19/2009
- Chaimirija I'm a Fan of Chaimirija 56 fans permalink
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I only knew about the effect of Medicaid on States because of a class I took. The whole health care/insurance business is entirely too complicated and convoluted as a direct result of the emental laws passed over the years to benefit special interest groups

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 07/19/2009
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It makes single payer look downright simple and a no-brainer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 07/19/2009
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To those who say "Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the possible", know that we on the left come to the table already having compromised our position. Single payer universal health care IS our compromise.

Single payer universal health care isn't our first, best proposal. We've already have been denied our first best proposal - A level playing field where we all could rise and share in the obscene corporate profits that come at the expense of so many people's lives. We've lost to a corporate mentality that it's a 'dog eat dog'-world, where making a living isn't enough (or even possible); only 'making a killing'.

Had Republicans never been in power these past 35 years, free education through college, access to nutritious, clean and safe food and water, and affordable health care for everyone would have been the bare minimum standard of living for all Americans. But greedy OILy conservative politicians entered our lives and our government, and we're now on a fast track to THE END.

Single payer universal health care is the best and only solution left, in order to provide most Americans with quality and affordable health care.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 07/19/2009
- Coinyer101 I'm a Fan of Coinyer101 663 fans permalink
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Scroo them .that excuse is the lam est ever. if it doesn't work it doesn't help onedamm bit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 07/19/2009

I know...I can't stand that "perfect is the enemy of good" horseflop.

Just a convenient excuse for doing things halfa.ssed­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 07/19/2009
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Governor Schweitzer says “...what Congress intends to do is increase the number [of people] on Medicaid so they could do it for the cheap. It is not working for anybody."
Is he equating offering a public option to putting people on Medicaid? I thought that Medicaid would be phased out once insurance was mandatory and subsidized for those who can’t afford it?
If we are keeping Medicaid, why mandate insurance? Anyone?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 07/19/2009
- Chaimirija I'm a Fan of Chaimirija 56 fans permalink
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I hadn't heard that, but good point. Would seem to make sense to simply expand one or both programs to cover all. I admit I am not an expert on either program. Anyone with sufficient experience­/knowledge here?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 07/19/2009

There are two main problems with Medicare and Medicaid as they now exist.

One, the programs are woefully underfunded. Right now the total employee/employer contribution is only 2.9%. For wage earners who wish to participate in a single payer plan (i.e., an expanded Medicare) that contribution should be brought up to at least 6%, a negligible increase when compared to the exorbitant fees they've been shelling out for health insurance premiums. Once the Medicare program is expanded, Medicaid would be rolled into it, and cease to exist as a separate program.

Two, many states have turned the "administration" of Medicare and Medicaid over to private, for-profit insurance companies leading to the inevitable inefficiency and corruption. Right now there are dozens of on-going lawsuits by states against private insurance companies for defrauding the public health system. Google Wendell Potter. His website discusses several of these suits.

Expanding Medicare is the best way to ensure all Americans of affordable health CARE, but it will only work if the for-profit insurance companies are cut out of the equation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 07/19/2009
- Mugzi I'm a Fan of Mugzi 13 fans permalink

Medicaid and Medicare are not the same! Medicare for all...sing­le payer...th­ere wouldn't be any medicaid!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 07/19/2009
- Chaimirija I'm a Fan of Chaimirija 56 fans permalink
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Most people do not understand that. They do not understand that the reason Medicaid was passed in the first place was for poor children, because chlildren are usually cheap to cover. They do not understand that providers do not have to accept Medicaid or Medicare and the reason Medicare is usually accepted is because so many people have it. States have to match Medicaid..­.and some states get more from the Feds than others...t­ake a guess at which types of states get a greater percentage of the money from the feds?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 07/19/2009
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I understand that Medicare is for seniors and Medicaid is for uninsured.
As I understand the bill’s proposals, Medicare remains in place.
For those not entitled to Medicare and who do not have insurance, the bill mandates that they get insurance and provides subsidies for those who can’t afford the premiums.
If I am right, then my question is, why keep Medicaid?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 07/19/2009
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Maybe his criticisms are right.
Congress, the President, all of us need to listen to honest criticism. The last thing we need is bad legislation passed under the guise of health care reform.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 PM on 07/19/2009
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Sorry, in this country we only listen to people and media who reinforce our prejudices.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 07/19/2009
- Chaimirija I'm a Fan of Chaimirija 56 fans permalink
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Yep. Get rid of Medicaid and just expand Medicare to cover everyone, if the so choose. Would love to see that turned around on him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 07/19/2009
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Word.

There are right reasons to oppose this bill.

Why did Congress exempt itself and all federal employees from their new and wonderful plan?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 07/19/2009
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Could it be because it's new but not so wonderful.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:51 PM on 07/19/2009
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With ally like that who need enemy!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 07/19/2009
- Eric8 I'm a Fan of Eric8 17 fans permalink

This shouldn't be disregarded, it rather shows something importantly left out of the so called "health care" debate, which has nothing to do with "care" and everything to do with "cost", so lets call a spade a spade, its a "health cost" debate.

The Corporate overlords in the pharma and insurance industries, want to shift a portion of their costs onto states, to increase their market share, while putting states and individuals in debt. This should come at no surprise, they've been doing it for years. Wonder why there is a vanishing middle class? Because of the corporate takeover of society. I am a progressive, but Obama's bill will be nothing but corporate giveaway, with the tax payer footing the bill, just like the so called energy bill, and what happened with the bank bailouts!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 07/19/2009
- Chaimirija I'm a Fan of Chaimirija 56 fans permalink
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Just keep getting the facts out there....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 07/19/2009
- Tom95134 I'm a Fan of Tom95134 53 fans permalink
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Conditions are NEVER going to be perfect. In any case, this guy doesn't get a vote so he should eith support what would be good for the citizens of his state or get out of the way. I wonder how many people in Montana think that they have good health care.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 07/19/2009
- Montgriz I'm a Fan of Montgriz 36 fans permalink

Actually, most Montanans are receiving adequate health care but the real concern is the lack of doctors and in some of the 56 counties there are no hospitals so trans needs are more vital...us­ually that means a head injury is flown to Seattle or Salt Lake....no­t cheap, but not counted in the state's medical budget.
The governor is a very, popular guy, but the reason Montana has a large surplus is complex...­firstly, it does not have urban problems of racial violence, anger, and detachment from neighbors.­..we are a small state that receives a lot of cash from DC because our senators are bought just like the rest of them...we know it...accep­t it and move on...purit­y and innocence are lost forever in America...­.thanks George....­Ron....Cli­nton....An­other reason Montanans accept our situation, is that we are, , healthier.­...heavier­, but we have more opportunities, actially, to exercise..­.most love the outdoors..­..we are not an urban crowd...pl­us, our legislature is part time, and does not meet yearly....­full time lawmakers feel the nedd to make laws whether they are needed or not.....bi­g money can buy anyone that is there for too long....so­, the Big Sky is more complicated than most....an­d, we do favor single payer health care with a supplement­al....our governor is overlooking the fact, that a substantial number of our poorest people are on reservations and we do not count them or even see them...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 07/19/2009
- THISTLE I'm a Fan of THISTLE 61 fans permalink

THIS GOVERNOR DOESN'T GET TO VOTE - AND OBAMA DOESN'T NEED HIM...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 07/19/2009
- ljc I'm a Fan of ljc 110 fans permalink

Isn't the Senator from Montana already doing enough damage? The Governor should decline to answer any questions that do not apply to his authority.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 07/19/2009
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Correct, the gov. should keep his mouth shut.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 07/19/2009
- Montgriz I'm a Fan of Montgriz 36 fans permalink

Why? You sound like a neocon...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 07/19/2009

Why should the man shut up? The proposal is going to affect HIM and his state! He has every right to his opinion. Unfortunately, he speaks the truth, so he's no longer popular. Tough, ain't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 07/19/2009
- iplaw I'm a Fan of iplaw 28 fans permalink

Wallstreet got over 800 billion in cash over 2 years and 3 trillion in loan guarantees, but they say 1 trillion over 10 years is too much to raise America's health care system from 37th in the world up to where other 1st world countries are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 PM on 07/19/2009
- Loki11467 I'm a Fan of Loki11467 8 fans permalink
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Well Said!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 07/19/2009
- Chaimirija I'm a Fan of Chaimirija 56 fans permalink
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nia122 is RIGHT:

"...That means we all have to be willing to read. Then we have to ve willing to cotact our representatives over and over again. And we have to talk to our neighbors. We also need to use forums like this to actually engage in real dialogue not foolish name calling when we don't agree with someone.

If we do that, then whatever idea gets the most support does just that and congress will have to support it. Right now, too many people are silent an not doing their part to push the ideas that really matter."

Just caught some CNN...peop­le watch TV to listen to other peoples opinions and views about this...EVE­RYONE NEEDS TO READ THE PROPOSED BILLS

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 07/19/2009

Here's the bill.

http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/AAHCA-BillText-071709.pdf

Yah gotta love the bill's statement of purpose:

"To provide affordable, quality health care for all Americans and reduce the growth of health care spending, and for other purposes."

"...and for OTHER PURPOSES."­???? What other purposes? (another teapot museum earmark?)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 07/19/2009
- ljc I'm a Fan of ljc 110 fans permalink

I think all bill have "for other purposes" in them. That is how they add unrelated amendments and earmarks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 07/19/2009
- Chaimirija I'm a Fan of Chaimirija 56 fans permalink
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 07/19/2009
- Forest I'm a Fan of Forest 7 fans permalink

When Americans can't afford their own health insurance, why do we pay for the healthcare of our callous representatives who cave to any excuse not to stand with us?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 07/19/2009
- Chaimirija I'm a Fan of Chaimirija 56 fans permalink
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or the health care needs of an invaded country...­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 07/19/2009
- ReedYoung I'm a Fan of ReedYoung 149 fans permalink
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Schweitzer is angling for notoriety instead of serving the people, either of the United States or of Montana. A brief analysis of real budget numbers reveals that his state has a budget surplus less because of "good fiscal management" than because of federal government money spent there.
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"Now, let me lay this out, there are only a few states that have a budget surplus, we are one them, we have about $400 million in cold hard cash in the bank. Very few states have got that. And we got there through good fiscal management­."
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Nice try.
http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/22685.html
Over the years available (1981 - 2005), Montana has received $33.977 Billion more federal government spending than it has contributed to the federal budget, which is more than eight times the measly $0.4 Billion or "about $400 million in cold hard cash in the bank" that Schweitzer wants to pretend got there only "through good fiscal management­." So, Governor Schweitzer, we can do this one of two ways. The preferred method is that you pony up your fair share for your country to promote the general welfare by providing basic medical care to all citizens who need it. Your other option is that the federal funds for all other projects in Montana cease, but you continue to be taxed until you've paid back the surplus you've received since 1982. Which looks to you like it would be better for Montanians?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 07/19/2009
- cigi I'm a Fan of cigi 36 fans permalink

Reed, thanks for the post...eve­ryone has an angle, don't they? There is also a good article in the NYT dated July 15, 2009 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/19/magazine/19healthcare-t.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&th&emc=th, which explains how we pay for the poor healthcare system of delivery twice, once with our premiums and through our tax dollars, which subsidize private enterprise healthcare system by giving them HUGE writeoffs. It is a double sham. Gov Schweitzer is looking out for his political future, nothing more, nothing less. It is time for every state and every politician to become educated to the word "sacrifice­"...someti­me you Just have to DO IT, for the good of all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 PM on 07/19/2009
- Montgriz I'm a Fan of Montgriz 36 fans permalink

Hey,our senators accept bribes just like yours...gr­ow up...The concern of most Montanans is not healthcare per se, but access to it....we have few doctors, nurses, etc...we are a rural state for the most part...peo­ple are independent and proud of it....but we are not stupid...w­e spend heavily on schools and we are the better for it....but, we do not have a med school....­..nor do we have urban racial violence, rich vs.poor competition, detachment from each other, or huge dependency on DC...of course, we don't have to pay for the reservations of which we have a large number...t­hat would break our treasury..­..the bills as presented this week end are not going to pass because the people don't get what they want while the politicians get bribed to make sure insurance companies get even richer....­.until the health care system is simplified, it will never pass....ta­ke the insurance companies out! If the rich or the state wants a supplemental, fine, they can compete there, but their should be a basic single payer plan for all....no exceptions­......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 07/19/2009
- ReedYoung I'm a Fan of ReedYoung 149 fans permalink
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Excuse you. I'm not anti-Montana but your governor just told a whopper of a lie and I corrected it. Now you're coming very close to making a liar of yourself in defense of your governor. Between 1985 and 2005, Montana received between $1.47 and $1.61 for every $1.00 it paid to the federal government. $34 Billion dollars IS a huge dependency. Or, you can prove that your state is not *dependent* on it, just happy to take it when it's offered if you refuse all federal spending in Montana while you refuse to pay your fair share for the national single payer medical program. The other 49 states made your current budget surplus possible. Return the favor, or expect no more favors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:59 PM on 07/19/2009

I'm getting really sick and tired of these so called Democrats. Baucus, Tester and Schweitzer, i voted for all these meatheads but will NEVER do it again. Bill Maher had it right a few weeks ago when he said we don't need a new Republican Party. The Democrats are the new Republican Party. What we need is a new Progressive Party in this country. To heck with all of them and enough wasted effort trying to get them to act like real Democrats. I would like to see more of us putting our efforts into forming a new party that actually represents progressive values. Enough with the Republican Light Party!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 07/19/2009

HEAR! HEAR!

Sanders/Ku­cinich2012

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 07/19/2009
- Montgriz I'm a Fan of Montgriz 36 fans permalink

yup, democacy sucks..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 07/19/2009
- MadHeart I'm a Fan of MadHeart 131 fans permalink

What if they had an election, and NOBODY came?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 07/19/2009
- Chaimirija I'm a Fan of Chaimirija 56 fans permalink
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Nah, too easy...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 PM on 07/19/2009
- cigi I'm a Fan of cigi 36 fans permalink

Hate to say this, but our American voting record is so poor, that usually happens with every election. We haven't lived under a dictatorship or monarchy, so most people can't appreciate the freedom we all have. I don't advocate doing that just to awaken the patriotic spirit in our countrymen, but somedays you have to wonder, what will wake them up, if anything. I am a great believer that the only thing that changes "human behavior" is pain and unfortunately lots of it, before folks really get it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 07/19/2009
- Montgriz I'm a Fan of Montgriz 36 fans permalink

those days are coming..as it is, fewer than half vote...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 07/19/2009
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The author did not do any homework at all on this man before he wrote this very misleading article.

For shame, H P

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 07/19/2009
- ReedYoung I'm a Fan of ReedYoung 149 fans permalink
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What did he get wrong?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 07/19/2009
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